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Bristol Rovers Dustbin Thread

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32 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

It sounded likely from the interview on Radio Bristol that he had asked for funds for January and was turned down.  The guy was near to tears and I felt really sorry for him, and also for Rovers fans if they are to lose a promising manager because of their Board’s refusal to back him.  I can imagine how frustrating that would be.  Sorry, I’m obviously out of step with everyone else on this thread.

Never feel sorry for  Rovers fans !!

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1 hour ago, RedLionLad said:

What is wrong with you people? Here you are talking about a replacement for a down to earth man who says it how it is when he is not even gone . You disgust me. After supporting this great club since 1952, I find your attitude appalling. When are you going to realise that the people who bought this great club five years ago are a bunch of chancers who are not interested in us or the club, but how much money they can make from selling the club. Next week, are you prepared to demonstrate in front of the directors box to tell them what we really think of them. A decent man is about to walk away. Are you prepared to do something about this or are you just going to carry on moaning? It’s time to put up or shut up.

 

This one wants action...

Here's the difference between us and them,

When things go t*ts up at the Gate we demonstrate they just roll over and get their tummy tickled by whichever chancer is running the club at the time. No sympathy

 

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Can't blame him - his family live in Sheffield, so it would be much closer to home.  Mansfield have a decent ground, training ground and some money for players - we don't tick any of those boxes.  No room for sentiment in football, if it's a good deal for him then he has to take the opportunity.

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11 minutes ago, In the Net said:

Can't blame him - his family live in Sheffield, so it would be much closer to home.  Mansfield have a decent ground, training ground and some money for players - we don't tick any of those boxes.  No room for sentiment in football, if it's a good deal for him then he has to take the opportunity.

So why take a shit deal 12 months ago?
 

Desperation? 

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1 hour ago, RedLionLad said:

What is wrong with you people? Here you are talking about a replacement for a down to earth man who says it how it is when he is not even gone . You disgust me. After supporting this great club since 1952, I find your attitude appalling. When are you going to realise that the people who bought this great club five years ago are a bunch of chancers who are not interested in us or the club, but how much money they can make from selling the club. Next week, are you prepared to demonstrate in front of the directors box to tell them what we really think of them. A decent man is about to walk away. Are you prepared to do something about this or are you just going to carry on moaning? It’s time to put up or shut up.

 

This one wants action...

Agree with everything, then he spoils it by calling them a "great club" !

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24 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

So why take a shit deal 12 months ago?
 

Desperation? 

His first opportunity to be a Manager, no brainer really as, if he'd turned it down, a Manager coming in from elsewhere would probably have wanted to bring his own backroom staff, and he'd have been out of a job.

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22 minutes ago, In the Net said:

His first opportunity to be a Manager, no brainer really as, if he'd turned it down, a Manager coming in from elsewhere would probably have wanted to bring his own backroom staff, and he'd have been out of a job.

To be fair to him, he's worked wonders with his hands tied.

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1 hour ago, In the Net said:

Can't blame him - his family live in Sheffield, so it would be much closer to home.  Mansfield have a decent ground, training ground and some money for players - we don't tick any of those boxes.  No room for sentiment in football, if it's a good deal for him then he has to take the opportunity.

This is a very sensible post which proves what I’ve always expected - you’re a secret Ted 

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"There’s been a massive lull in morale during the last year in which we’ve gone from bottom of the league 4 points adrift to 4th in the league January to January.
Our manager who has overseen that last year says he has a decision to make over the weekend with his family and you’ve only got to scroll through the threads on Gaschat tonight to see that our fan base has become much more like the 82ers than I ever thought it could have.
Great times for the team anyway."



Nice of him to admit we are a class above the fewers

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Unbelievable.  Had the worst week football wise in ages and on my way home from the gate, I heard Cockman on the radio saying that he had some important decisions to make rather than revelling in the glory of a good away win.  

Rather forgot about it for a few hours, then came here and read that it seems he has probably gone to Mansfield.  That certainly turned around my fairly miserable week, that did.

You can imagine the conversation with Wally though:

"So oive got you to 4th,  How abouts a poy roise"

"Sorry mate, we've got no dough"

"Backin in da Janry winda den?"

"Maybe we can get a couple of camels you can trade for a donkey"

"oi need marr dan dat.  Hows about some decent facilities"

"Well these things take time bud"

"What straws can yer offer moi den?

"Might be able to get you a fruit market in a couple of years if we can get a few mugs to stump up the cash" 

"Foine den yer dick.  Oim off ter Mansfield den".

 

 

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9 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Unbelievable.  Had the worst week football wise in ages and on my way home from the gate, I heard Cockman on the radio saying that he had some important decisions to make rather than revelling in the glory of a good away win.  

Rather forgot about it for a few hours, then came here and read that it seems he has probably gone to Mansfield.  That certainly turned around my fairly miserable week, that did.

You can imagine the conversation with Wally though:

"So oive got you to 4th,  How abouts a poy roise"

"Sorry mate, we've got no dough"

"Backin in da Janry winda den?"

"Maybe we can get a couple of camels you can trade for a donkey"

"oi need marr dan dat.  Hows about some decent facilities"

"Well these things take time bud"

"What straws can yer offer moi den?

"Might be able to get you a fruit market in a couple of years if we can get a few mugs to stump up the cash" 

"Foine den yer dick.  Oim off ter Mansfield den".

 

 

I really don't get this stereotypical Irish talk. Badly tarmacked drives, bushy eyebrows, horses on council estates, beamish,  der's more to Ireland dan dis

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13 minutes ago, Galway Red said:

I really don't get this stereotypical Irish talk. Badly tarmacked drives, bushy eyebrows, horses on council estates, beamish,  der's more to Ireland dan dis

Suddern or Nodrern Oirland are we taalkin aboite?

And de noimes Cack-lan not Cock-lan boy der woy.

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2 hours ago, In the Net said:

Can't blame him - his family live in Sheffield, so it would be much closer to home.  Mansfield have a decent ground, training ground and some money for players - we don't tick any of those boxes.  No room for sentiment in football, if it's a good deal for him then he has to take the opportunity.

Think you are trying to find some sort of excuse to make yourself feel better and soften the blow that your manager is going to leave you for a club in the lower half of the bottom league, the same club that relegated you out of that very league!

He spent 8 years at Southend. I know sags are not the smartest people in the world but you are aware of how far away Southend is from Sheffield? Bristol is slightly closer to Sheffield than Southend is! And then 12 months in Bristol and he is all of a sudden missing his family and wants to return home? Nah sorry mate I'm not sold on that excuse.

Considering this is someone that has spent over half of his life away from where he was born, I'm not sure hes the type to get home sick.

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2 hours ago, myol'man said:

Here's the difference between us and them,

When things go t*ts up at the Gate we demonstrate they just roll over and get their tummy tickled by whichever chancer is running the club at the time. No sympathy

When have we demonstrated? We plummeted from the top tier to the bottom division in three years but I can’t recall too many demos - apologies if I’ve forgotten anything from that time. And when LJ took us on our record number of consecutive defeats, there were a few murmurs of discontent, but nothing too bad, no demos ... 

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3 hours ago, myol'man said:

Here's the difference between us and them,

When things go t*ts up at the Gate we demonstrate they just roll over and get their tummy tickled by whichever chancer is running the club at the time. No sympathy

 

I remember they had a mini pitch invasion when they got relegated. There wasn't enough of them to class it as a demonstration.

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They haven’t produced anything for a little while then BANG!!!! out of absolutely nowhere they give us another absolute gem, to show everyone what a shit club they really are.

Family reasons? Yeah right, he’s jumping before the shit really hits the fan, no money to bring players in, JCH off in Jan, no one willing to takeover, so leaves Wally with one thing to do.... Admin.

 

FTG

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3 hours ago, BCFC11 said:

They haven’t produced anything for a little while then BANG!!!! out of absolutely nowhere they give us another absolute gem, to show everyone what a shit club they really are.

Family reasons? Yeah right, he’s jumping before the shit really hits the fan, no money to bring players in, JCH off in Jan, no one willing to takeover, so

**leaves Wally with one thing to do.... Admin.

 

FTG

** can Wally type and take calls ?

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5 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said:

"oi need marr dan dat.  Hows about some decent facilities"

 

5 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Suddern or Nodrern Oirland are we taalkin aboite?

And de noimes Cack-lan not Cock-lan boy der woy.

Move away from the stereotypically insulting bullshit - it's not doing you any favours.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong because i'm quite uneducated on this topic, but if Rovers don't allow an approach and don't cave in, and as they aren't forced to because Coughlan's got 2 years left on his deal there, would that not mean they might get a half decent deal (for them, probably a couple hundred thousand) as Mansfield will have to buy him out of his contract.

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6 hours ago, Galway Red said:

I really don't get this stereotypical Irish talk. Badly tarmacked drives, bushy eyebrows, horses on council estates, beamish,  der's more to Ireland dan dis

Too right ,there’s  Leprechauns , Guinness, River Dance and Shillelaghs. 
 

st patricks day irish GIF by GIPHY Studios Originals

 

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17 minutes ago, Mattyisared said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong because i'm quite uneducated on this topic, but if Rovers don't allow an approach and don't cave in, and as they aren't forced to because Coughlan's got 2 years left on his deal there, would that not mean they might get a half decent deal (for them, probably a couple hundred thousand) as Mansfield will have to buy him out of his contract.

I suppose GC could just resign which would probably cost him a couple of grand for the two years left on his contract and the Gas would probably have to take it to court which takes time ,money and would be a distraction for the club .

Mr Coughlan I salute you .

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21 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Cotterill will be interested if he joins Mansfield 

Personally think that option has gone, I don’t think Cotterill would take it now 

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7 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

When have we demonstrated? We plummeted from the top tier to the bottom division in three years but I can’t recall too many demos - apologies if I’ve forgotten anything from that time. And when LJ took us on our record number of consecutive defeats, there were a few murmurs of discontent, but nothing too bad, no demos ... 

"Dicks out" was a favoured chant back in the day.

Demo's outside of the grandstand against Stephen (or was it Les) Kew when things got rough.

Joe Jordan got some stick after the cup run was forgotten. Russell Osman got dogs abuse for his treatment of Jacki (Osman must surely be the only City player to get booed when he scored)

Tiny Penis had season ticket books thrown at him.

O'Dismal saw thousands of empty seats as fans stayed away.

Is that enough for you?

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I'm gonna guess that most of the things people are speculating about contain an element of truth with regards Cockman.

He probably does want to be closer to his family.

There is every chance Wally will sell the goal scorer.

There is no way they will invest in the squad or facilities to give them a chance of promotion.

Fewers will sit back and do nothing, as per. Instead they will blame the dog botherer for signing a player about 4 years ago who hasn't scored many and that this has blown the budget for this season, using the tried and trusted #gaslogic method of thinking.

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2 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

I suppose GC could just resign which would probably cost him a couple of grand for the two years left on his contract and the Gas would probably have to take it to court which takes time ,money and would be a distraction for the club .

Mr Coughlan I salute you .

Even if he resigned they would still get money from court action if he immediately went to Mansfield though? 

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9 hours ago, RedLionLad said:

I remember they had a mini pitch invasion when they got relegated. There wasn't enough of them to class it as a demonstration.

They invaded the pitch to celebrate.

They thought they'd won the game, but then slowly realised Mansfield had worn their away strip. Duh !

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9 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

When have we demonstrated? We plummeted from the top tier to the bottom division in three years but I can’t recall too many demos - apologies if I’ve forgotten anything from that time. And when LJ took us on our record number of consecutive defeats, there were a few murmurs of discontent, but nothing too bad, no demos ... 

We’ve been fortunate not to have been in the position like some other clubs where terrible ownership has forced fans into protests on the pitch or a mass boycott of home fixtures....however, I’ve no doubt that if that ever happened we would.

Look at their situation with their owners:

No communication.

Successive managers going public about concerns (this one may jump ship for a club in a division below whilst the Gas sit in the L1 POs).

Made to look like fools with tents for stands.

Losing your best player to your rivals for far less than he’s worth.

Loss of the UWE Stadium.

New stadium plans gone quiet.

Debts exceeding the value of their biggest asset with worries about how committed the owners are.

If that was happening at Ashton Gate I’m certain we’d be doing far more as a fan base than them. Gasheads are too busy patting each other on the back saying what great fans they are for putting up with all the shit. They’ve always been the same, they’ve got the shambles they deserve.

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Mattyisared said:

Even if he resigned they would still get money from court action if he immediately went to Mansfield though? 

They might want to avoid that. They don't have the best record in court.

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9 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

They might want to avoid that. They don't have the best record in court.

But if his contract was watertight ? 😀

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44 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Just watching the Quest rerun. Did Skeletor pretty much say (without actually saying) that he wanted the job?

Wouldn't surprise me. Stock has dropped since his last decent run in the Championship, and would imagine he would take any managerial job right now.

That being said, weren't the loyal and few upset because he said he would prefer QPR to beat them?

Also not sure  that Hollowhead would take the crap that Wally would serve up. He certainly wouldn't keep quiet. Be good entertainment though, one final attaction at the circus....

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45 minutes ago, Red7 said:

Terry Cooper and Jimmy Lumsden, too. If memory serves. Although I wasn't very old at the time.

Definitely remember losing at home to Torquay in the FA cup and there was a couple of dozens fans shouting for Terry Cooper to be removed under the boardroom

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3 hours ago, myol'man said:

"Dicks out" was a favoured chant back in the day.

Demo's outside of the grandstand against Stephen (or was it Les) Kew when things got rough.

Joe Jordan got some stick after the cup run was forgotten. Russell Osman got dogs abuse for his treatment of Jacki (Osman must surely be the only City player to get booed when he scored)

Tiny Penis had season ticket books thrown at him.

O'Dismal saw thousands of empty seats as fans stayed away.

Is that enough for you?

‘Booing’ someone or ‘giving them some stick’ from the crowd isn’t really a ‘demonstration’ though - thanks for the examples though - I wasn’t having a go, I just couldn’t remember any proper demonstrations - I do recall the stuff outside the Grandstand now you mention it though.
 

But on the whole Bristolians are a pretty laid back, tolerant bunch - our football players and managers and owners get a pretty easy ride. We don’t give them too much grief at all - it makes me laugh when people refer to ‘toxic’ atmospheres at Ashton Gate - nowhere near - proper toxic atmospheres, and demonstrating, is what clubs such as Newcastle do (eg when trying to oust Pardew) or the Man City of old (eg when they wanted Swales out) - those were proper evil vibes - we just don’t do that down here 

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Heard a couple more interesting shouts for Cockman's replacement if he goes. Of course there were some hilariously unrealistic ones like Gareth Ainsworth and Tony Pulis, but have seen a lot of sags ask for Nathan Jones

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15 minutes ago, Mattyisared said:

Heard a couple more interesting shouts for Cockman's replacement if he goes. Of course there were some hilariously unrealistic ones like Gareth Ainsworth and Tony Pulis, but have seen a lot of sags ask for Nathan Jones

Surprised they haven't mentioned Tisdale as well (as if he'd go there though!)

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11 hours ago, Up The City! said:

Think you are trying to find some sort of excuse to make yourself feel better and soften the blow that your manager is going to leave you for a club in the lower half of the bottom league, the same club that relegated you out of that very league!

He spent 8 years at Southend. I know sags are not the smartest people in the world but you are aware of how far away Southend is from Sheffield? Bristol is slightly closer to Sheffield than Southend is! And then 12 months in Bristol and he is all of a sudden missing his family and wants to return home? Nah sorry mate I'm not sold on that excuse.

Considering this is someone that has spent over half of his life away from where he was born, I'm not sure hes the type to get home sick.

Not looking for any excuses, just putting forward some possible reasons, the family thing being just one of them.  He's certainly spent a lot of time away from home, so maybe that's a red herring from him, the other reasons I gave are facts - and maybe he feels Mansfield will provide him with more opportunities - a new job isn't necessarily about where you start, but where you think you will end up.

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11 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

When have we demonstrated? We plummeted from the top tier to the bottom division in three years but I can’t recall too many demos - apologies if I’ve forgotten anything from that time. And when LJ took us on our record number of consecutive defeats, there were a few murmurs of discontent, but nothing too bad, no demos ... 

I recall a couple of years ago that there were several people (including some on here) who began a boycott and swore they'd never set foot in AG while Johnson remained in charge. I wonder where they are now?

what I do find slightly odd about this is that Coughlan has got the gas into 4th place and his departure would be a disaster (translate as funny for many City fans) yet everywhere else on here our own managers got us to 4th (six days ago) and there are people wanting him to go.

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Dear Rovers; here's how to make some much needed money.

Reach, but then fail in the Play offs. That will generate attendance & TV income.

Then looking at League 2, next season four out of FGR, Cheltenham, Swindon, Newport, Exeter & Plymouth could be in league 1 which would mean more loala(ish) derbies giving larger than average gates and less travelling to undertake when away.

Finally; accept this is our level and save money by no longer trying to compete with the big boys across town.

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4 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

just couldn’t remember any proper demonstrations - I do recall the stuff outside the Grandstand now you mention it though.

Forgive the lack of detail but I'm certain there was a post match demo at the rear of the William's stand against the so called "reform group" towards the back end of the 95 season. It was around the time the club got in trouble with the FA over the financing of the Atyeo stand, Osman putting out teams of teenage academy rejects, Europe in 5 years and all that other bollocks. It paved the way for Scott Davidson to buy the club. 

I'm certain I remember it and the protests calling for the board to quit going on inside the ground as well. 

All of my old copies of One Team are in a box somewhere otherwise I'd go back and check. 

Anyone else remember?? 

Anyhow, the Saggys, the gift that keeps on giving. 

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