Hunsupport Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Hi everyone. I'm a Hungarian fan (clearly obvious from my name I suppose ), thanks for letting me join the forum. I would like You to have a little insight on Ádám, not the usual stats, etc. I don't want to convince anyone if he's a good or bad football player, just give a little deeper insight on his characteristics, something You can't know about from articles and the usual introductions. Waited for the finalisation of the transfer with this just to be sure and it will be a long read. I'll start by being very honest: he's my absolute favourite player. And that's a very rare thing in Hungary, He's not a “showman”, an enforcer or a crazy dribbler who catches the eye at first sight so everyone should make up his own mind on him after seeing a few games. He won't make the stats tops in tackles but he's very strong in interception, covering passes and a real baller DM. He's quite different from any other DMs I think that's why there are some coaches / managers who don't know what to do with him, how to use him on the pitch. When he was introduced to the first team of Ferencváros in our Cup final he was ok but nothing more to me. I watched him over and over again when he instantly became a regular starter and after about 5 games – when everyone else started to call him 'ok' – I had an epiphany. I admire his game from that moment because for me he is absolutely different from everyone else. His style, his elegance, his pace and outstanding 'football intelligence' amazes me. I was afraid that this angel-faced kid is mentally not strong enough but then I heard him giving interviews, looked up his past and relaxed. He was fired from his club at 11 because he wasn't strong or muscled enough. He wanted to finish football - which he started to play only because of the good company - but there were 2 very young coaches who saw him play. They persuaded him not to give up, it took them a few weeks' hard talk...After that he played in lower kid leagues and paralell to that futsal. Three years later the coach of Ferencváros was Bobby Davison who saw him play and offered him scolarship to a Spanish-English academy. He went to Spain for 3,5 years, amongst his coaches was the current fitness coach of Wolves and Ian Wright as well. Then he played 2 years for Ferencváros's U21 team and continued playing futsal, it defines his style. Now after 3 years in Italy he muscled up in a very athletic way, became much more forward-minded in his gameplay, but remained just as fast as before and tactically very-very disciplined. To show some aspects of his thinking and honesty I would like to quote a bit of his interview after this season. “ When Mihajlovic came in as a coach ( to replace Pippo Inzaghi) it became clear after 2-3 training sessions that he won't count with me at all. He didn't speak to me at all, we only spoke once after we defeated Crotia in the qualifiers, then he congratulated me and that was all of our interaction in the 5 months. But it didn't mean that I can relax in trainings or skip them just because I knew I won't play no matter what. I was first in, last out; always try being the fastest and hardest working because in these situations You have to do Your best so Your teammates, club and country could do their best as well. And I don't like whining either, these things happen in football, still You have to do Your best in trainings.” So it's not really that he “doesn't find his place and all these sorts of stupid things: the same thing happened in the national team as well; Leekens said he don't know how to use him, then now Rossi says he's irreplaceable for him. Regarding his fitness and pace: for stat fans I can only say that in his last 4 EC qualifiers he ran 13 kms / per game and 70% (!!!) of this was at sprinting speed. He's not a sprinter, but he runs constantly very fast and a lot. He came 2nd in the last Serie A year in ground covered with 11,7 kms / 90 mins. He loves running and he's genetically very-very good at it. In mentality he's very different from players at his age or younger. He's old school, gives the outmost respect to the older players, his coaches and an extreme hard worker. Thomas Doll, the former Lazio player was his coach here, he said about him: “ You put him in the training ground, don't look at him for a week and he'd do 120 % of the work and knows everything about the weekend tactics”. He's also very honest and loyal: for him being a foreign player only means more respect for club, country and fans. Once he chooses the club then it becomes “we” and beware everyone who wants to hurt his club. He doesn't need constant media attention,not a poser; You won't spend hours watching his instagram as he puts like 1 picture on it per every 2-3 months... So with my knowledge and study on him I can say that he might looks like a little, mostly sad boy it is all part of his act, he's the angel-faced devil if You ask me. When the big guys put fierce tackles in to stamp authority he plays mind games there on the pitch, like he's playing rapid chess games throughout the game. He speaks 3 languages fluently: English, Spanish, Italian and also basic Portuguese. He definitely won't get homesick as he spent half of his footballer life abroad. Last but not least: all pronounciaton You heard is false. Trick is in the “gy” at the end. The closest is like You say Nadja without the “a” in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hunsupport said: Hi everyone. I'm a Hungarian fan (clearly obvious from my name I suppose ), thanks for letting me join the forum. I would like You to have a little insight on Ádám, not the usual stats, etc. I don't want to convince anyone if he's a good or bad football player, just give a little deeper insight on his characteristics, something You can't know about from articles and the usual introductions. Waited for the finalisation of the transfer with this just to be sure and it will be a long read. I'll start by being very honest: he's my absolute favourite player. And that's a very rare thing in Hungary, He's not a “showman”, an enforcer or a crazy dribbler who catches the eye at first sight so everyone should make up his own mind on him after seeing a few games. He won't make the stats tops in tackles but he's very strong in interception, covering passes and a real baller DM. He's quite different from any other DMs I think that's why there are some coaches / managers who don't know what to do with him, how to use him on the pitch. When he was introduced to the first team of Ferencváros in our Cup final he was ok but nothing more to me. I watched him over and over again when he instantly became a regular starter and after about 5 games – when everyone else started to call him 'ok' – I had an epiphany. I admire his game from that moment because for me he is absolutely different from everyone else. His style, his elegance, his pace and outstanding 'football intelligence' amazes me. I was afraid that this angel-faced kid is mentally not strong enough but then I heard him giving interviews, looked up his past and relaxed. He was fired from his club at 11 because he wasn't strong or muscled enough. He wanted to finish football - which he started to play only because of the good company - but there were 2 very young coaches who saw him play. They persuaded him not to give up, it took them a few weeks' hard talk...After that he played in lower kid leagues and paralell to that futsal. Three years later the coach of Ferencváros was Bobby Davison who saw him play and offered him scolarship to a Spanish-English academy. He went to Spain for 3,5 years, amongst his coaches was the current fitness coach of Wolves and Ian Wright as well. Then he played 2 years for Ferencváros's U21 team and continued playing futsal, it defines his style. Now after 3 years in Italy he muscled up in a very athletic way, became much more forward-minded in his gameplay, but remained just as fast as before and tactically very-very disciplined. To show some aspects of his thinking and honesty I would like to quote a bit of his interview after this season. “ When Mihajlovic came in as a coach ( to replace Pippo Inzaghi) it became clear after 2-3 training sessions that he won't count with me at all. He didn't speak to me at all, we only spoke once after we defeated Crotia in the qualifiers, then he congratulated me and that was all of our interaction in the 5 months. But it didn't mean that I can relax in trainings or skip them just because I knew I won't play no matter what. I was first in, last out; always try being the fastest and hardest working because in these situations You have to do Your best so Your teammates, club and country could do their best as well. And I don't like whining either, these things happen in football, still You have to do Your best in trainings.” So it's not really that he “doesn't find his place and all these sorts of stupid things: the same thing happened in the national team as well; Leekens said he don't know how to use him, then now Rossi says he's irreplaceable for him. Regarding his fitness and pace: for stat fans I can only say that in his last 4 EC qualifiers he ran 13 kms / per game and 70% (!!!) of this was at sprinting speed. He's not a sprinter, but he runs constantly very fast and a lot. He came 2nd in the last Serie A year in ground covered with 11,7 kms / 90 mins. He loves running and he's genetically very-very good at it. In mentality he's very different from players at his age or younger. He's old school, gives the outmost respect to the older players, his coaches and an extreme hard worker. Thomas Doll, the former Lazio player was his coach here, he said about him: “ You put him in the training ground, don't look at him for a week and he'd do 120 % of the work and knows everything about the weekend tactics”. He's also very honest and loyal: for him being a foreign player only means more respect for club, country and fans. Once he chooses the club then it becomes “we” and beware everyone who wants to hurt his club. He doesn't need constant media attention,not a poser; You won't spend hours watching his instagram as he puts like 1 picture on it per every 2-3 months... So with my knowledge and study on him I can say that he might looks like a little, mostly sad boy it is all part of his act, he's the angel-faced devil if You ask me. When the big guys put fierce tackles in to stamp authority he plays mind games there on the pitch, like he's playing rapid chess games throughout the game. He speaks 3 languages fluently: English, Spanish, Italian and also basic Portuguese. He definitely won't get homesick as he spent half of his footballer life abroad. Last but not least: all pronounciaton You heard is false. Trick is in the “gy” at the end. The closest is like You say Nadja without the “a” in the end. welcome to the forum, He is the type of player we badly need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 8, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Thank you for taking the time to post this, very informative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Many thanks for posting. So it's pronounced Nadge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunsupport Posted August 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Crackers Corner said: Many thanks for posting. So it's pronounced Nadge? Yes, that's good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hunsupport said: Hi everyone. I'm a Hungarian fan (clearly obvious from my name I suppose ), thanks for letting me join the forum. I would like You to have a little insight on Ádám, not the usual stats, etc. I don't want to convince anyone if he's a good or bad football player, just give a little deeper insight on his characteristics, something You can't know about from articles and the usual introductions. Waited for the finalisation of the transfer with this just to be sure and it will be a long read. I'll start by being very honest: he's my absolute favourite player. And that's a very rare thing in Hungary, He's not a “showman”, an enforcer or a crazy dribbler who catches the eye at first sight so everyone should make up his own mind on him after seeing a few games. He won't make the stats tops in tackles but he's very strong in interception, covering passes and a real baller DM. He's quite different from any other DMs I think that's why there are some coaches / managers who don't know what to do with him, how to use him on the pitch. When he was introduced to the first team of Ferencváros in our Cup final he was ok but nothing more to me. I watched him over and over again when he instantly became a regular starter and after about 5 games – when everyone else started to call him 'ok' – I had an epiphany. I admire his game from that moment because for me he is absolutely different from everyone else. His style, his elegance, his pace and outstanding 'football intelligence' amazes me. I was afraid that this angel-faced kid is mentally not strong enough but then I heard him giving interviews, looked up his past and relaxed. He was fired from his club at 11 because he wasn't strong or muscled enough. He wanted to finish football - which he started to play only because of the good company - but there were 2 very young coaches who saw him play. They persuaded him not to give up, it took them a few weeks' hard talk...After that he played in lower kid leagues and paralell to that futsal. Three years later the coach of Ferencváros was Bobby Davison who saw him play and offered him scolarship to a Spanish-English academy. He went to Spain for 3,5 years, amongst his coaches was the current fitness coach of Wolves and Ian Wright as well. Then he played 2 years for Ferencváros's U21 team and continued playing futsal, it defines his style. Now after 3 years in Italy he muscled up in a very athletic way, became much more forward-minded in his gameplay, but remained just as fast as before and tactically very-very disciplined. To show some aspects of his thinking and honesty I would like to quote a bit of his interview after this season. “ When Mihajlovic came in as a coach ( to replace Pippo Inzaghi) it became clear after 2-3 training sessions that he won't count with me at all. He didn't speak to me at all, we only spoke once after we defeated Crotia in the qualifiers, then he congratulated me and that was all of our interaction in the 5 months. But it didn't mean that I can relax in trainings or skip them just because I knew I won't play no matter what. I was first in, last out; always try being the fastest and hardest working because in these situations You have to do Your best so Your teammates, club and country could do their best as well. And I don't like whining either, these things happen in football, still You have to do Your best in trainings.” So it's not really that he “doesn't find his place and all these sorts of stupid things: the same thing happened in the national team as well; Leekens said he don't know how to use him, then now Rossi says he's irreplaceable for him. Regarding his fitness and pace: for stat fans I can only say that in his last 4 EC qualifiers he ran 13 kms / per game and 70% (!!!) of this was at sprinting speed. He's not a sprinter, but he runs constantly very fast and a lot. He came 2nd in the last Serie A year in ground covered with 11,7 kms / 90 mins. He loves running and he's genetically very-very good at it. In mentality he's very different from players at his age or younger. He's old school, gives the outmost respect to the older players, his coaches and an extreme hard worker. Thomas Doll, the former Lazio player was his coach here, he said about him: “ You put him in the training ground, don't look at him for a week and he'd do 120 % of the work and knows everything about the weekend tactics”. He's also very honest and loyal: for him being a foreign player only means more respect for club, country and fans. Once he chooses the club then it becomes “we” and beware everyone who wants to hurt his club. He doesn't need constant media attention,not a poser; You won't spend hours watching his instagram as he puts like 1 picture on it per every 2-3 months... So with my knowledge and study on him I can say that he might looks like a little, mostly sad boy it is all part of his act, he's the angel-faced devil if You ask me. When the big guys put fierce tackles in to stamp authority he plays mind games there on the pitch, like he's playing rapid chess games throughout the game. He speaks 3 languages fluently: English, Spanish, Italian and also basic Portuguese. He definitely won't get homesick as he spent half of his footballer life abroad. Last but not least: all pronounciaton You heard is false. Trick is in the “gy” at the end. The closest is like You say Nadja without the “a” in the end. Sounds like the right DNA. I am looking forward to seeing him play . Thank you for taking the time to write your synopsis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRed Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Thanks for the information. I think this is the player we've needed so badly for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Thank you for this @Hunsupport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep the Faith Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Sounds a bit like Cole Skuce but hopefully with a little more to his game. As a result i predict he will not be a fans favourite which is a shame if he can do the job we badly need someone to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said: Many thanks for posting. So it's pronounced Nadge? Sounds almost like Natch Love the sound of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hunsupport said: Hi everyone. I'm a Hungarian fan (clearly obvious from my name I suppose ), thanks for letting me join the forum. I would like You to have a little insight on Ádám, not the usual stats, etc. I don't want to convince anyone if he's a good or bad football player, just give a little deeper insight on his characteristics, something You can't know about from articles and the usual introductions. Waited for the finalisation of the transfer with this just to be sure and it will be a long read. I'll start by being very honest: he's my absolute favourite player. And that's a very rare thing in Hungary, He's not a “showman”, an enforcer or a crazy dribbler who catches the eye at first sight so everyone should make up his own mind on him after seeing a few games. He won't make the stats tops in tackles but he's very strong in interception, covering passes and a real baller DM. He's quite different from any other DMs I think that's why there are some coaches / managers who don't know what to do with him, how to use him on the pitch. When he was introduced to the first team of Ferencváros in our Cup final he was ok but nothing more to me. I watched him over and over again when he instantly became a regular starter and after about 5 games – when everyone else started to call him 'ok' – I had an epiphany. I admire his game from that moment because for me he is absolutely different from everyone else. His style, his elegance, his pace and outstanding 'football intelligence' amazes me. I was afraid that this angel-faced kid is mentally not strong enough but then I heard him giving interviews, looked up his past and relaxed. He was fired from his club at 11 because he wasn't strong or muscled enough. He wanted to finish football - which he started to play only because of the good company - but there were 2 very young coaches who saw him play. They persuaded him not to give up, it took them a few weeks' hard talk...After that he played in lower kid leagues and paralell to that futsal. Three years later the coach of Ferencváros was Bobby Davison who saw him play and offered him scolarship to a Spanish-English academy. He went to Spain for 3,5 years, amongst his coaches was the current fitness coach of Wolves and Ian Wright as well. Then he played 2 years for Ferencváros's U21 team and continued playing futsal, it defines his style. Now after 3 years in Italy he muscled up in a very athletic way, became much more forward-minded in his gameplay, but remained just as fast as before and tactically very-very disciplined. To show some aspects of his thinking and honesty I would like to quote a bit of his interview after this season. “ When Mihajlovic came in as a coach ( to replace Pippo Inzaghi) it became clear after 2-3 training sessions that he won't count with me at all. He didn't speak to me at all, we only spoke once after we defeated Crotia in the qualifiers, then he congratulated me and that was all of our interaction in the 5 months. But it didn't mean that I can relax in trainings or skip them just because I knew I won't play no matter what. I was first in, last out; always try being the fastest and hardest working because in these situations You have to do Your best so Your teammates, club and country could do their best as well. And I don't like whining either, these things happen in football, still You have to do Your best in trainings.” So it's not really that he “doesn't find his place and all these sorts of stupid things: the same thing happened in the national team as well; Leekens said he don't know how to use him, then now Rossi says he's irreplaceable for him. Regarding his fitness and pace: for stat fans I can only say that in his last 4 EC qualifiers he ran 13 kms / per game and 70% (!!!) of this was at sprinting speed. He's not a sprinter, but he runs constantly very fast and a lot. He came 2nd in the last Serie A year in ground covered with 11,7 kms / 90 mins. He loves running and he's genetically very-very good at it. In mentality he's very different from players at his age or younger. He's old school, gives the outmost respect to the older players, his coaches and an extreme hard worker. Thomas Doll, the former Lazio player was his coach here, he said about him: “ You put him in the training ground, don't look at him for a week and he'd do 120 % of the work and knows everything about the weekend tactics”. He's also very honest and loyal: for him being a foreign player only means more respect for club, country and fans. Once he chooses the club then it becomes “we” and beware everyone who wants to hurt his club. He doesn't need constant media attention,not a poser; You won't spend hours watching his instagram as he puts like 1 picture on it per every 2-3 months... So with my knowledge and study on him I can say that he might looks like a little, mostly sad boy it is all part of his act, he's the angel-faced devil if You ask me. When the big guys put fierce tackles in to stamp authority he plays mind games there on the pitch, like he's playing rapid chess games throughout the game. He speaks 3 languages fluently: English, Spanish, Italian and also basic Portuguese. He definitely won't get homesick as he spent half of his footballer life abroad. Last but not least: all pronounciaton You heard is false. Trick is in the “gy” at the end. The closest is like You say Nadja without the “a” in the end. Thank for this. It sounds very, very exciting. I really hope he isn't the type to get annoyed at every commentator, pundit and journalist in the country constantly saying his name wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Thank you mr naga we will look after your son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said: Many thanks for posting. So it's pronounced Nadge? I read it more as sort of Nadgj, if that makes sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Hmmmm........a DM......will this mean the end for Pack?........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Welcome @Hunsupportthank you so much for your input. Amazing English too, please post more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said: Many thanks for posting. So it's pronounced Nadge? NARJ. Used to work with a Hungarian with the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Köszönöm @Hunsupport! He sounds like the player we've been missing for years... No pressure then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: Hmmmm........a DM......will this mean the end for Pack?........... It might actually help Pack. Pack is a deep-lying midfielder rather than a defensive one. Having Nagy alongside him might free him up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 I mean if this doesn't spell out 'hidden gem' I don't know what does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Sounds like the type of player who takes a bit of time to appreciate Will be hung, drawn and quartered on here by Halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Really interesting read Thankyou @Hunsupport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pieman Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Sounds almost like Natch Love the sound of him. Looks like the Thatchers Gold song is his then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: NARJ. Used to work with a Hungarian with the same name. With our west country twang the r is natural anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 It sounds like we've bought a footballing Emil Zatopek. Now if he can be to football what he was to running we'll have a real star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Thanks for the write-up! Most exciting part of that for me is his endless running, an 'energizer bunny' style CDM in the Kante mould constantly breaking up play and quietly stopping danger early is a game-changer in the modern game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said: With our west country twang the r is natural anyway It'll be Nagyl then, in Bristololian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRed Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said: Many thanks for posting. So it's pronounced Nadge? "One of our own"..........(N) Adge as in Culter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulton Red Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Thanks for the insight, I already think he’s my favourite current player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiled Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Just brilliant, thanks for taking the time to post some great detail @Hunsupport Love this: Quote ....he's the angel-faced devil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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