Unan Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Purely hypothetical but what do you think it will take to expand the ground? Premiership football for 3 years? A season of nearly constant sell outs? Also, I’m sure when the stadium redevelopment was announced it was stated that our ground could be expanded again to 38,000(?) but I can’t find any evidence of this from a quick google search, did I make that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 If we get to the prem you have to wonder if it would be worth doing it. The amount of telly money would make gate receipts less of a concern, and do you spend 40mil or more on making it bigger if what you can charge for a seat doesn't yield much of a return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, Unan said: Purely hypothetical but what do you think it will take to expand the ground? Premiership football for 3 years? A season of nearly constant sell outs? Also, I’m sure when the stadium redevelopment was announced it was stated that our ground could be expanded again to 38,000(?) but I can’t find any evidence of this from a quick google search, did I make that up? Pretty certain the south stand has been built so that a top tier can be added.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 55 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: If we get to the prem you have to wonder if it would be worth doing it. The amount of telly money would make gate receipts less of a concern, and do you spend 40mil or more on making it bigger if what you can charge for a seat doesn't yield much of a return. Add in hospitality and that makes it much more financially viable. The hospitality suits us now but we would be losing out on money in the Prem by not having the extra facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 9, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Not sure we will see any changes If we get to the Prem we could play to an empty ground and still make money There are many sides who have been in and around the Prem with smaller grounds than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 If we get there I wonder whether we'd bank 'X' amount and set it aside for the rebuild of the Dolman which would include more hospitality areas etc in its rebuild, a rebuilt Dolman could push us to the 30,000 mark which would probably be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, hodge said: If we get there I wonder whether we'd bank 'X' amount and set it aside for the rebuild of the Dolman which would include more hospitality areas etc in its rebuild, a rebuilt Dolman could push us to the 30,000 mark which would probably be enough. I think that's more likely. Redeveloping the away end doesn't make much sense for hospitality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Two tier Atyeo with the upper tier built over the top like Liverpool’s new basking shark stand. I believe that is the plan. Further phase to replace Dolman with a mirror image of the west stand is further off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 At the time of the plans SL said he considered building to 35k including Atyeo but they decided against it. Presumably on the basis of lets fill 27k first. No idea what they can do without buying all the houses behind though. I’d have thought it’d be quite limited so as not to be financially worthwhile for the degree of expanded capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Misleading thread title of the day goes to..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: Misleading thread title of the day goes to..... Err I literally put “not happening” before the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, Unan said: Err I literally put “not happening” before the title I read that as; expanding the stadium ain't happening (must have had Yoda saying it in my head). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 If we get to the Prem and go for expansion we could well be back down again before it was completed. We really could end up with a half empty stadium in that case with no atmosphere. Think we need a few years consolidation with full gates first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, marmite said: If we get to the Prem and go for expansion we could well be back down again before it was completed. We really could end up with a half empty stadium in that case with no atmosphere. Think we need a few years consolidation with full gates first. simple, just concentrate the fans in the lower tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider hoss rules Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 I know aesthetically the Atyeo stand does kind of stick out a bit like a sore thumb. But in terms of view, capacity for away fans (like it or not) and potential for atmosphere generation there are far far worse stands in the Championship and even the Premier league. Perhaps filling in the corners and a bit of cladding to match the other stands would make that end look a whole lot more integrated than necessarily rebuilding it just to make more capacity the probably isn't needed anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 36 minutes ago, cider hoss rules said: I know aesthetically the Atyeo stand does kind of stick out a bit like a sore thumb. But in terms of view, capacity for away fans (like it or not) and potential for atmosphere generation there are far far worse stands in the Championship and even the Premier league. Perhaps filling in the corners and a bit of cladding to match the other stands would make that end look a whole lot more integrated than necessarily rebuilding it just to make more capacity the probably isn't needed anyway. I've said it before IF we get to the Premiership 27,000 will be completely inadequate, yes for some games it might be just enough, but we could sell 40,000 for at least 8 to 10 games all these people saying oh it's plenty big enough will be the first ones moaning when they can't get a season ticket for love or money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, bris red said: Pretty certain the south stand has been built so that a top tier can be added.. The view across the pitch to the gorge and bridge would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkateee Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, bris red said: Pretty certain the south stand has been built so that a top tier can be added.. You could only build on top of the south stand, if lansdown bought at least half a dozen houses at the back. Couldn't see it happening otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 It won't happen (imho) but given the land that SL has bought if you rotated the pitch you could get a capacity of 50k. Would likely mean starting from scratch and binning the plan for the indoor arene, car park and hotels...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Loco Rojo said: I read that as; expanding the stadium ain't happening (must have had Yoda saying it in my head). In your head, Yoda was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 When the Atyeo is rebuilt, it'll look like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Wasn’t the “expandable to 38000” a feature of the Ashton Vale design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Take out all the seats and the ground would easily hold 50,000 I know.........that's not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyreds89 Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 hours ago, bris red said: Pretty certain the south stand has been built so that a top tier can be added.. Has it? Great if it has but not sure how that would work Worn House’s/gardens behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awbb Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, mightyreds89 said: Has it? Great if it has but not sure how that would work Worn House’s/gardens behind. Stadium construction has allowed secondary (or more) tiers to be added without requiring a complete rebuild for a while, so would certainly expect that to be the way the South Stand would be increased. Though as mentioned up to 8 or even 10 semis on Rains Rd would need to be purchased. With the profiling of the Atyeo it might not work for that so would probably need a complete rebuild. With the need to buy 18 houses on Ashton Rd as well a South Stand expansion would almost certainly be undertaken first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 We can't fill what we have the best we can do is 20-21 thousand 1500 empty seats in the away end every week if sold out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 I thought safe standing boosts capacity if we get that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, The Batman said: When the Atyeo is rebuilt, it'll look like this. Would look awesome but we would probably have to buy Greville Smyth Park to make it feasible! If we did something like this to match the height of the Lansdown it would certainly be impressive and push us near 35k capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyreds89 Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Robin Wood said: We can't fill what we have the best we can do is 20-21 thousand 1500 empty seats in the away end every week if sold out If we were top 2/3 all season I think we’d be sold out most weeks. Do you not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Leveller said: Wasn’t the “expandable to 38000” a feature of the Ashton Vale design? 44000 for both ends I think for the 2018 WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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