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Frenchay Red

More match day parking restrictions

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1 minute ago, The Horse With No Name said:

According to that, we are challenging for promotion to the Championship

Ha, I didn't notice that!

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14 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

They can paint yellow lines but they still can`t get the ******* park and ride open!

Why can't we get some proper match day public transport. Double decker buses direct from all the population centres from around Bristol would take a shed load of cars of the road. Surely there's a profit to be made in it. Free ticket for the bus driver as an incentive. They could even have it as an add-on for season ticket holders. 

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The reason people are risking parking like this, is because of the parking restrictions elsewhere 🙄

It's nigh on impossible to use your car or public transport to get to a game without taking hours before and after the game to travel.

A ridiculous situation.

 

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Can I use my blue badge there?  Only joking, have Parking in Wickes, but will we see it used for disabled parking

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Love the bit about since the capacity was extended to 27,000- when it used to be 30+ 20 odd years ago! Also it’s interesting that football has become an issue since property prices in Beddy got so high and southville grew so much.it’s Not like the football ground suddenly appeared!

Perhaps the counsel members have shares in the outrageously high cost car parks that have sprung up since the residents parking scheme happened!!!!

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1 hour ago, spudski said:

The reason people are risking parking like this, is because of the parking restrictions elsewhere 🙄

It's nigh on impossible to use your car or public transport to get to a game without taking hours before and after the game to travel.

A ridiculous situation.

 

Not defending the restrictions but it’s simply not true to say you need hours either side of the game to travel. With a little bit of planning and a willingness to walk a short distance it’s very possible. I manage it from a Chippenham every time I come.

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People joke...with respect, but this is seriously becoming a massive problem.

You simply can't trust public transport to work. I've tried... it's so fragile, either human error or other circumstances stop it working efficiently.

If it works, it still needs so much planning. 

As for parking...I used to use the Ashville for pre and post match socialising. The roads around it are pretty much empty.

Talking to their staff, these parking restrictions have had a massive effect on their business. People don't go their as often because of them.

I should imagine it's the same for other businesses.

This is purely a way of making money or trying to get people to use public transport that doesn't work efficiently.

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2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Not defending the restrictions but it’s simply not true to say you need hours either side of the game to travel. With a little bit of planning and a willingness to walk a short distance it’s very possible. I manage it from a Chippenham every time I come.

What time do you leave Chippenham?

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6 minutes ago, spudski said:

What time do you leave Chippenham?

It’s not quite that simple as I pick up others on the way, but using JustPark I could show up at 2:45 for a 3pm kick off and my space would still be there.

Chippenham to Ashton Gate on a clear run would take around 45-50 minutes, but on a Saturday afternoon I’d always give myself 75 mins or so.

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2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

It’s not quite that simple as I pick up others on the way, but using JustPark I could show up at 2:45 for a 3pm kick off and my space would still be there.

Chippenham to Ashton Gate on a clear run would take around 45-50 minutes, but on a Saturday afternoon I’d always give myself 75 mins or so.

So I'm guessing you share the cost of just park?

A fan on his own with different time patterns and restrictions to you shouldn't be anialated.

Bristol City as a Club are a massive Community get together. Something that should be encouraged and made easy. The Council want to encourage ' Community' but do everything in their path to make it hard, unless it goes into their coffers.

 

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As has no doubt been said many times before, it's no good putting in more parking restrictions if alternative parking or public transport facilities are not put in place, to cope with said parking being displaced. Granted the buses have improved but there still aren't enough to cope. BCC at it's incapable best as usual. 

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Getting the park and ride open should be the number 1 focus of the Supporters Trust and club working together to get this sorted ASAP. 

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Don’t see how this will work. Most of the roads around the ground are street parking for houses with no drives. So if they are double yellows where do the residents park for the rest of the week? Double yellows in other places are just going to push more cars into these roads, making the problem worse. Well thought out BCC as usual. 

Maybe if they actually put some effort into looking at reliable sustainable affordable public transport to and from the games (park and ride, Ashton Gate station, buses from all over Bristol) then less people would be taking their cars. Instead we have the backward archaic thinking of ‘ah right yeah we’ll just put some more double yellows down, that’ll stop em’. 

Most inept council in the country 

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I can see a time coming when because of less and less parking, coupled with rubbish public transport, this and this alone will be the deciding factor in whether I renew my SC.

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29 minutes ago, spudski said:

So I'm guessing you share the cost of just park?

A fan on his own with different time patterns and restrictions to you shouldn't be anialated.

Bristol City as a Club are a massive Community get together. Something that should be encouraged and made easy. The Council want to encourage ' Community' but do everything in their path to make it hard, unless it goes into their coffers.

 

Yes we split the JustPark cost between three of us.

 Not sure what you mean about the fan on his own, JustPark is generally £5-6 so not that expensive. And the beauty of it is your space is reserved, so it’s a very good option for people with different time patterns and restrictions, as you put it.

That said, I’m not defending the council whatsoever. The pitiful lack of joined-up thinking when it comes to a transport strategy for a large stadium in an urban area is frankly pathetic. It’s a cliche to say it, but it just wouldn’t happen in Germany or Holland.

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I leave the house at 240pm and am parked for free by 250pm ... and it is free ... the joys of non league football ... and I am not subsidizing some ar*e holes £100k a week ... 

 

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40 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

I can see a time coming when because of less and less parking, coupled with rubbish public transport, this and this alone will be the deciding factor in whether I renew my SC.

Beat you to it, the buses on an evening are a joke for me, I either miss the last 10 mins of night games or have to wait till ten to eleven for the next one home and if it rains and the cricket club and field next to it are closed there is nowhere to go. I go to Saturday games only now or night games If it doesn't rain, but that makes a season ticket not worth it. 

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Doing stuff like this will then just push the cars to another residential area that doesn't have restrictions, at which point they will complain and the council will act to then benefit them and so on.

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1 hour ago, hodge said:

Doing stuff like this will then just push the cars to another residential area that doesn't have restrictions, at which point they will complain and the council will act to then benefit them and so on.

.....and then you’ve created another need for RPZ’s.

More money for the council to spend on things we don’t need.

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11 hours ago, CyderInACan said:

Good. The dangerous and illegal parking on matchdays has reached farcical levels. 

I use a mobility scooter on matchdays, I tried using the pathway between Ford and Marsh Rd Traffic lights, on the first game V Leeds, some inconsiderate IDIOT parked on the path by the traffic lights, couldn't get through unless I bump down onto the road, I ask a police woman for help, totally useless, her words "I can't do anything", I said to her can't you put a tkt on it, and tow it, as it's an obstruction, she said I will later, after the game car was still there, no tkt, the owner turned up, I said thanks for causing an obstruction, his words were, FXXK OFF, the officer told me to go back to the roundabout at Fords and cross there, totally useless police, 

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58 minutes ago, Redmycolour said:

I use a mobility scooter on matchdays, I tried using the pathway between Ford and Marsh Rd Traffic lights, on the first game V Leeds, some inconsiderate IDIOT parked on the path by the traffic lights, couldn't get through unless I bump down onto the road, I ask a police woman for help, totally useless, her words "I can't do anything", I said to her can't you put a tkt on it, and tow it, as it's an obstruction, she said I will later, after the game car was still there, no tkt, the owner turned up, I said thanks for causing an obstruction, his words were, FXXK OFF, the officer told me to go back to the roundabout at Fords and cross there, totally useless police, 

The police/council seem to not be bothered about it TBH - which as you've pointed out causes numerous issues. Hope you get to the QPR game on saturday without having to negotiate an assault course of idiotically parked cars! 

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10 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Not defending the restrictions but it’s simply not true to say you need hours either side of the game to travel. With a little bit of planning and a willingness to walk a short distance it’s very possible. I manage it from a Chippenham every time I come.

How many games do you actually attend though ?

Try doing it 25 times or so a season

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Tbh, this direction of travel, this trend is/will be common place in cities.

What would be interesting would be to see if other grounds/clubs in urban areas- outside of London of course which seems to get all it wants and more in terms of transport and especially medium-large cities with a ground in the city itself, have the same level of issues. (Adjusted per capita, per attendee etc).

@adamski Capacity hasn't been 30,000 or upwards since pre all seater days. Plus the last time we had attendances of this level or above on a regular basis was late 1970s, to 1980- or maybe mid 1970s-1980? Top flight and maybe 1976 promotion season. There were a LOT less cars on the road in general then. Saw a stat some while ago about the growth between x and y.

Mind you the public transport in Bristol is pretty shit, from surrounding areas even more so therefore it's hardly a surprise.

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Not suggesting anyone does this for a minute but if there happens to be any time restricted bays around Ashton Gate and the signs got covered in spray paint the council wouldn't be able to enforce the bays and you'd get free parking, same with single yellow lines

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44 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Tbh, this direction of travel, this trend is/will be common place in cities.

What would be interesting would be to see if other grounds/clubs in urban areas- outside of London of course which seems to get all it wants and more in terms of transport and especially medium-large cities with a ground in the city itself, have the same level of issues. (Adjusted per capita, per attendee etc).

@adamski Capacity hasn't been 30,000 since pre all seater days. Plus the last time we had attendances of this level or above on a regular basis was late 1970s, to 1980- or maybe mid 1970s-1980? Top flight and maybe 1976 promotion season. There were a LOT less cars on the road in general then. Saw a stat some while ago about the growth between x and y.

Mind you the public transport in Bristol is pretty shit, from surrounding areas even more so therefore it's hardly a surprise.

I didn't go to any away games last season, hence our much improved away performances!

However, previous seasons' trips to Birmingham, Villa, Fulham, Brentford, Derby, Reading, Cardfiff, & PNE.  Have presented me with a lot less parking difficulties than my home fixture trips to Ashton Gate.

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7 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

I didn't go to any away games last season, hence our much improved away performances!

However, previous seasons' trips to Birmingham, Villa, Fulham, Brentford, Derby, Reading, Cardfiff, & PNE.  Have presented me with a lot less parking difficulties than my home fixture trips to Ashton Gate.

Interesting, thanks.

Derby's a bit out of town and so is Reading even more so, but the other grounds all in the urban area itself- was it a case that there are/were a lot less cars in the area for example, or was it that parking restrictions were far less? Preston have quite a few less fans so that helps, always wondered if we have a greater proportion of fans who travel by car than other clubs? Dunno why but...

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2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Interesting, thanks.

Derby's a bit out of town and so is Reading even more so, but the other grounds all in the city itself- was it a case that there are/were a lot less cars in the area for example, or was it that parking restrictions were far less? Preston have quite a few less fans so that helps, always wondered if we have a greater proportion of fans who travel by car than other clubs?

Possibly so, but if we do that’s down to the lack of any alternative. We don’t seem to have any notion of public transport here. A huge P&R car park that sits empty. A metro bus that doesn’t operate when half our home games take place and which, by its bosses own admission last season, isn’t designed to cope with the increased traffic that matchday brings. A rail system (proposed) that will pass right by the ground without stopping. It’s ludicrous. 

I also find away games far easier, London of course has proper public transport, but even a place like Reading can set up arrangements for a nearby park and ride to bus people to the ground. 

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1 minute ago, italian dave said:

Possibly so, but if we do that’s down to the lack of any alternative. We don’t seem to have any notion of public transport here. A huge P&R car park that sits empty. A metro bus that doesn’t operate when half our home games take place and which, by its bosses own admission last season, isn’t designed to cope with the increased traffic that matchday brings. A rail system (proposed) that will pass right by the ground without stopping. It’s ludicrous. 

I also find away games far easier, London of course has proper public transport, but even a place like Reading can set up arrangements for a nearby park and ride to bus people to the ground. 

I agree fully- we do have a pretty shit public transport infrastructure- in Bristol it is poor and as you say the joke that is the empty P&R plus the Metro bus that cannot operate for matchdays and the rail system that doesn't stop near the ground.

We're particularly poor with it as a city I feel. This of course leaves little option but for cars.

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Parking has got progressively worse over the years, and will continue to do so. I have ended up paying £180 a season to park at one of the clubs designated sites. The reason I pay is that I take my 82 year old Father in Law to all home games and without guaranteed parking he would not be able to attend.

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1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

How many games do you actually attend though ?

Try doing it 25 times or so a season

I think this get to the heart of the issue. I don't doubt that a single individual can find a parking space on any given match day. Just Park clearly offers that. But it doesn't offer a sustainable solution to finding places for thousands to park every other week and midweek. That's what is missing. We use the Portway P&R and the service is fine - something similar is needed right across the city. It needs to be easier to use public transport than use your car.

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16 hours ago, Frenchay Red said:

Pity the council didn't do the same up Wellington hill and around by the church, all the illegal parking on bends street corners, on the Junction at the traffic lights, should I go on, 

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11 hours ago, Dredd said:

Don’t see how this will work. Most of the roads around the ground are street parking for houses with no drives. So if they are double yellows where do the residents park for the rest of the week? Double yellows in other places are just going to push more cars into these roads, making the problem worse. Well thought out BCC as usual. 

Maybe if they actually put some effort into looking at reliable sustainable affordable public transport to and from the games (park and ride, Ashton Gate station, buses from all over Bristol) then less people would be taking their cars. Instead we have the backward archaic thinking of ‘ah right yeah we’ll just put some more double yellows down, that’ll stop em’. 

Most inept council in the country 

The new double yellow lines will be around junctions only, to help flow of traffic and protect road users and pedestrians. I live in these streets and even on non match days parking causes issues...I've seen two cyclists knocked off their bikes outside my home due to cars parking on junctions and blocking views. We know parking is terrible on match days and the council and City need to do something about it...the park n ride situation is a joke!

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Interesting, thanks.

Derby's a bit out of town and so is Reading even more so, but the other grounds all in the urban area itself- was it a case that there are/were a lot less cars in the area for example, or was it that parking restrictions were far less? Preston have quite a few less fans so that helps, always wondered if we have a greater proportion of fans who travel by car than other clubs? Dunno why but...

Obviously I don't live in those areas and have only relied on good ol' google maps for my parking planning, however it seems to me that there are certainly less restrictions, or at least they don't extend away from those grounds to such an extent. E.g. St Andrews, it is possible to street park very close to the ground indeed, as I have done on the several times I've been there. 

Villa & Craven Cottage require 20 mins brisk walk, though I think you can get closer to Villa Pk than I did to street park.

Blackburn you can get close to the ground as well, though it's only a small place.

I know Bristol like the back of my hand, so trying to find a place to park is not because I don't know where to look,  it's because there are ever dwindling suitable locations. At the moment I aim to get to the area some 3  hours before KO to make sure I can park, and others are already there and parked. Soon I'll be leaving after breakfast!!

 

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11 hours ago, swampy said:

I leave the house at 240pm and am parked for free by 250pm ... and it is free ... the joys of non league football ... and I am not subsidizing some ar*e holes £100k a week ... 

 

I think you're on the wrong forum.

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Does anyone know why the AG6 bus is not running this season? AG1 AG2 and AG4 are still running but for some reason 6 has been scrapped. I didn't use it every game last season but the games i did it was always full and was a great stress free way of getting to games.

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Wouldn’t object to this but the AG 1/2/3/4 P& R Buses just aren’t up to scratch. At the Leeds game the bus broke down and left us waiting for half an hour for the next AG2 to come and pick us up. Same thing happened last game of last season and ifor the match before that we are also stood waiting 45 mins for an AG2 to arrive. Was going to revert back to the car this weekend but where the heck is there to park now unless you turn up at least 2 hours early ? 

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11 hours ago, swampy said:

I leave the house at 240pm and am parked for free by 250pm ... and it is free ... the joys of non league football ... and I am not subsidizing some ar*e holes £100k a week ... 

 

So your advice to Bristol City fans having trouble parking at Bristol City games is to support a different team. Brilliant. 

I'm not sure why you still post on this forum, seeing as you seem to have such disdain for League football. 

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3 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

How many games do you actually attend though ?

Try doing it 25 times or so a season

Around 10, but that’s irrelevant because what I do (pre-booked JustPark space) would be equally applicable if I went to every game.

But I’m not denying that there’s a problem (see my other posts).

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14 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Can I use my blue badge there?  Only joking, have Parking in Wickes, but will we see it used for disabled parking

For people with blue badges who find it equally hard to park, this is great news for them. There will be ample parking for anyone with a blue badge now, which in some ways isnt a bad thing at all.

Public transport for many people just isnt an option, making it harder for people to park will just make the situation worse.

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55 minutes ago, asfred said:

The new double yellow lines will be around junctions only, to help flow of traffic and protect road users and pedestrians. I live in these streets and even on non match days parking causes issues...I've seen two cyclists knocked off their bikes outside my home due to cars parking on junctions and blocking views. We know parking is terrible on match days and the council and City need to do something about it...the park n ride situation is a joke!

I quite agree. As a resident of BS3 the Southville RPZ has had a terrible knock-on affect on the surrounding areas. Ashton Rd, Duckmoor Rd etc are choc a block with commuter parking every day of the week, as well as "2nd cars" from Southville being parked the other side of North St to avoid needing a second permit. What's the answer though? 

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7 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

For people with blue badges who find it equally hard to park, this is great news for them. There will be ample parking for anyone with a blue badge now, which in some ways isnt a bad thing at all.

Public transport for many people just isnt an option, making it harder for people to park will just make the situation worse.

Brighton have a pretty good public transport infrastructure in and around their ground, I'm led to believe.

https://www.stadiumguide.com/falmer/

Pretty problematic here though- as it stands.

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