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1 minute ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Maybe a bit predictable but after today, would you like a lift to Swansea, free of charge!

Tit... Palmer was probably our best outfield player today (low bar I admit), not his fault all those in front of him showing no movement. Add in to that balls into Fammy were just bouncing 6 feet off him all the time and I, for one, felt sorry Palmer who was trying to make something happen.

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1 minute ago, eastonboy said:

Are you serious??

Apart from elliason, was the only creative outlet and looked constantly to play the ball forwards instead of 5 yards sideways or backwards.

 

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Tit... Palmer was probably our best outfield player today (low bar I admit), not his fault all those in front of him showing no movement. Add in to that balls into Fammy were just bouncing 6 feet off him all the time and I, for one, felt sorry Palmer who was trying to make something happen.

You are literally blinded!

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7 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Maybe a bit predictable but after today, would you like a lift to Swansea, free of charge!

Utterly clueless

you i mean

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The only player along with Elliasson to try and get the ball forward. The rest scared shitless so pass side and back or a hopeless punt forward.

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He was our best player. Considering; he started on the left, no one wanted to past forward to him and when he got the ball no ****** is making a move.

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1 minute ago, SuperRed said:

When the players in front of him stand in a straight line horizontally across the pitch and do no move what do you expect. 

Yep, everyone else’s fault I guess. What’s the point in making the run when you know the pass isn’t coming??

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Thought he was ok today.

Couple of good turns and balls forward.

Couple of times where he lost it in bad positions.

Couple of times where he didn't make runs forward and just stood there seeking the ball.

And lots of turning with the ball, and seeing absolutely nothing happening in front of him

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9 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Maybe a bit predictable but after today, would you like a lift to Swansea, free of charge!

Dumb fisherman 

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10 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Maybe a bit predictable but after today, would you like a lift to Swansea, free of charge!

I’m with you but it looks like many others think he’s KDB or something 

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Palmer on his day can open up any defence, however unless you have players on a similar wavelength and with some kind of movement then it will never happen. Hence the reason he worked well with Benik.

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2 minutes ago, Ryan_BCFC said:

I’m with you but it looks like many others think he’s KDB or something 

Not at all but he was one of our best today (not saying much i admit). If you took 2 seconds to look at what options he actually had ahead of him you might understand why sometimes he held the ball or gave it simple

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Must be a wind up thought he was our second best player today. Probably give him 7/10 with Eliasson same but shades it with the assist. Only one to get on the ball turn and go forward centrally today. Tried to link with Fam but Fam was off today. Keeper made 1(2?) great save to deny his volley(did KP win the header from the corner that was saved?). Was nice to see him play and had a good performance considering he hasn’t even been involved for about 3 weeks minimum. Keep KP get rid of LJ bring in a striker with movement and that starting XI is maybe our best

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4 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Palmer on his day can open up any defence, however unless you have players on a similar wavelength and with some kind of movement then it will never happen. Hence the reason he worked well with Benik.

Absolutely Tone.  That is the main reason KP is not playing well.  He also looked better in the second half playing more centrally.

His work rate was not so great, but that seems to apply to the whole team at the moment though.  And I know LJ expects him to track back more, but that is not really his game.

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11 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Yep, everyone else’s fault I guess. What’s the point in making the run when you know the pass isn’t coming??

Weimann came on and made a run in behind and KP instantly found him. The rest of the time those in front of him stood in a straight line and did not move. Their three massive centre backs must have loved it. 

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18 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Tit... Palmer was probably our best outfield player today (low bar I admit), not his fault all those in front of him showing no movement. Add in to that balls into Fammy were just bouncing 6 feet off him all the time and I, for one, felt sorry Palmer who was trying to make something happen.

Been saying this all season, except when Benik was playing... still believe the reason he isn’t playing is because the coaching staff know our current forward line will offer him nothing ... 

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6 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Absolutely Tone.  That is the main reason KP is not playing well.  He also looked better in the second half playing more centrally.

His work rate was not so great, but that seems to apply to the whole team at the moment though.  And I know LJ expects him to track back more, but that is not really his game.

Exactly. We need to play to his strengths and we will benefit big time. Does he come across as lazy ..... sometimes yes if I'm honest. Can he change a game in a minute ..... absolutely.

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6 minutes ago, SuperRed said:

Weimann came on and made a run in behind and KP instantly found him. The rest of the time those in front of him stood in a straight line and did not move. Their three massive centre backs must have loved it. 

Great point it is the pass no one else in the side can make. 

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1 minute ago, petehinton said:

Imagine bombing him from the team for weeks then giving him his first start in 9 weeks at......left wing. 

Did similar with Tomlin. We’ve seen this all before. 

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2 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Imagine bombing him from the team for weeks then giving him his first start in 9 weeks at......left wing. 

Spent most of his time central behind fam   He was only on the left for first 20 mins 

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He gets caught on the ball and knocked off it too easily at times, but he’s a massive talent if in the right team and system. It’s been done to death but with a striker making intelligent runs like Benik his vision and passing ability are a massive asset. Fam’s been a great servant to this club but he’s so static when we’re in possession. Get in a striker who plays off the shoulder and watch KP feed them consistently 

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1 minute ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said:

Spent most of his time central behind fam   He was only on the left for first 20 mins 

And he / we looked much better (not hard tbf) for it. Him and Eliasson the only two showing any sort of creativity. Palmer probably shit scared of trying to do too much wrong through getting called out publicly again. 

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52 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Maybe a bit predictable but after today, would you like a lift to Swansea, free of charge!

Thanks for the contribution Lee. 😏

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Did well and has to be given a run of games.  Yes he lost it a few times but equally could have scored 2 but seems only one comfortable receiving ball when marked and strong enough to deal with pressure and play with his head up.  He won’t get a run of games which he needs as only way he can get match sharp is by playing.  A talent but with an untalented manager

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said:

Spent most of his time central behind fam   He was only on the left for first 20 mins 

Which was 20 minutes too long and an absolutely ridiculous thing to do.

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24 minutes ago, Kibs said:

Which was 20 minutes too long and an absolutely ridiculous thing to do.

Not really , Drift in to try and pick up the ball in dangerous areas in possession,  drop back out to the left out of possession to stop full back advancing 

 

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1 minute ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said:

Not really , Drift in to try and pick up the ball in dangerous areas in possession,  drop back out to the left out of possession to stop full back advancing 

 

Yep and also force JD to turn around and go backwards time and time again. It failed miserably which was why he changed it.

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Only heard the game on RB whilst out and about. Gary Owers  who I think is a decent summariser , appeared to think he played well, certainly in the first half .

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Put Palmer in a good team with good movement and he would be unreal, you can't coach the vision he has got.

I actually felt a bit sorry for him today, on numerous occasions he looked up and there was no movement or many options for him to pass to and you could feel the frustration.

Regardless of his static team mates i still thought he did well today and tried to make things happen.

Keep him in the team and get some young/hungry players in there and he and Bristol City will flourish.

 

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@formerly known as ivan think it’s fair to say, your opinion (valid as it is) is in the minority re Palmer.

For me, further evidence of why I’d go Weimann on his own with Palmer behind him, was one beautiful pass to put him in one on one.

If you drive him to Swansea, I’ll be waiting to drive him back 😂

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2 minutes ago, Shtanley said:

Why is he being put in the same lineup as a lone Diedhiou. How is that possibly going to work?

Hopefully the coaching staff and the analysts saw that today.  As good a header as he scored today, his back to goal hold-up play was probably at its worst today. @spudski - view on Fam?

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5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Hopefully the coaching staff and the analysts saw that today.  As good a header as he scored today, his back to goal hold-up play was probably at its worst today. @spudski - view on Fam?

Yep and his touch in general was awful, especially when under even the slightest bit of pressure. The midfielders play a ball into his feet and he’s so off balance due to poor body position when trying to shield it that it just bounces off him and we lose possession.

Infuriating because it’s very hard not to like the guy! Especially when he loses it like he did in the second half and runs 60 yards to win the ball back!!

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Some good moments, tried to make things happen, very anonymous second half. Shows how bad today was where a patchy display is seen as some sort of triumph

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12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Hopefully the coaching staff and the analysts saw that today.  As good a header as he scored today, his back to goal hold-up play was probably at its worst today. @spudski - view on Fam?

God I miss 352 with Afobe and Weimann up top. I know that it made no space for Eliasson but I didn't mind too much.

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14 minutes ago, Shtanley said:

Why is he being put in the same lineup as a lone Diedhiou. How is that possibly going to work?

Exactly. So WHY bring on Weimann, who could have benefitted from Palmer's passing and the put him on THE LEFT WING?????

Please don't tell me  we needed to match them up in midfield - I cannot recall Weimann getting a single pass while out wide, the only touches he had were when he popped up centrally, and could have scored at least one.

I felt that Palmer, and most of the team, were getting their confidence back in the last bit of the first half, things were coming off and we were looking dangerous. Then the equaliser went in, and the confidence ebbed away. It was the same at Charlton - we looked like a decent time after going 2-1 up, but it only lasted about 10 minutes.

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2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

@formerly known as ivan think it’s fair to say, your opinion (valid as it is) is in the minority re Palmer.

For me, further evidence of why I’d go Weimann on his own with Palmer behind him, was one beautiful pass to put him in one on one.

If you drive him to Swansea, I’ll be waiting to drive him back 😂

Fair do

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8 hours ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said:

Almost pointless playing him until we get a striker in that looks to run behind 

If rumours are true he will be signing next week, driven to the gate by Ian Wright.

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He had an odd game. Some excellent touches and some dreadful ones. Still our second most dangerous player on the day though.

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