And Its Smith Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 52 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Perhaps have a read of this Dave. It’s over 3 years old, the sums are not insignificant for some of lesser know players, but also see the add-ons the tribunal sets too. http://fullcontactlaw.co.uk/2016/11/compensation-players-24-mystery/ So, definitely not irrelevant. We aren’t talking £18k for Alan Walsh in 2020. Its obvious in your view. I’m giving you an alternate view, and some factual data to perhaps suggest it’s not quite as obvious! I understand that compensation is paid but don’t believe we would get much for Walsh. With that in mind we would have heard if his contact was nearly up. The club communicate year options or they communicate either selling or trying for new deals. If no communication then it’s highly likely that out of the three possibilities the actual is an option. Therefore it was obvious he had an option. The lack of communication made it obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, RedDave said: I understand that compensation is paid but don’t believe we would get much for Walsh. With that in mind we would have heard if his contact was nearly up. The club communicate year options or they communicate either selling or trying for new deals. If no communication then it’s highly likely that out of the three possibilities the actual is an option. Therefore it was obvious he had an option. The lack of communication made it obvious. When you say not much, given the examples (from 3 years ago), our own Adelakun (Played Lg1 only) at £600k, I’d suggest we’d do ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: When you say not much, given the examples (from 3 years ago), our own Adelakun (Played Lg1 only) at £600k, I’d suggest we’d do ok. Adelakun didn’t go to a tribunal. Other teams were interested in him at the time. He had been at Scunthorpe for quite a while, from a younger age and they could show they had developed him a lot. Not really a comparable situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 I know he didn’t, but only because we settled with Scunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Have not read complete thread, but interesting comments in the press conference available from yesterday and on line. One of LJ better ones with less of the phrases that are trotted out. Either way he alluded to Walsh a fair bit and confirmed the extra year and stated Walsh needed pretty much 40 games on the bounce to get him up to speed and prepared for championship football. And to be a top performer in league one that would assist him for the championship. He stated he was talking to him personally the day before. listening to that I am optimistic he has a future here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 I like Walsh and always have, I’m glad we’ve got the year option in his contract and should brownhill go he should replace him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Something about Walsh's skill excites me like no other, looking forwards to seeing him play a key role for City next season. Here's hoping he can develop into a quality Championship player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 10/01/2020 at 20:09, ncnsbcfc said: Bit of a discussion between Graham C and myself over Walsh' contract. That hopefully people on here can clear up. When he signed from Everton, it was for 2.5 years I believe. They doesn't seem to be an option year pit in by the club. Now Gregor and Coventry are reporting that his loan has been extended to the summer. If that's the case, he'll be out of contract? With no apparent new one on offer. All a bit strange by City, who normally like to cover all their bases. I'm guessing that it has to be one of three options. Either we exercise an optional year that no-one knows about. He signs a new contract before heading back to Coventry for the 2nd half of the season. Or we sell him for a nominal fee somewhere? I'm sure LJ does rate him, just needed some experience in L1. His free kick at QPR is almost goal of the season(possibly Josh's at Cardiff, might shade it). Anyone have any knowledge about him? @GrahamC was a good poster. A little grumpy at times but certainly knew his stuff and had some great contributions to this site. Do you know why he doesn't post anymore? As for Walsh - I really hope we keep him around. I think he's got great talent and the loan to Coventry has been brilliant for him. I think on raw talent alone he's more gifted than Brownhill, the issue with him is that he's not as versatile and some teams wouldn't trust him in a midfield 2 due to his size. His distribution is quality and he has a bit more vision and creativity in his passing than the others. The loan should make him ready for first team football next year. I also really rate Morrell and think the two of them could really compliment eachother. Both play with a bit of bite and hustle - the sort of midfielders Johnson likes. Assuming Brownhill leaves over the next few months; I think in Nagy, Morrell, Walsh, HNM (and perhaps Smith for a bit of versatility and experience) we'd have a nice blend of midfielders with complimentary styles. I hope we give that group a chance over the next year if we're still in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I also really rate Morrell and think the two of them could really compliment eachother. Both play with a bit of bite and hustle - the sort of midfielders Johnson likes. Assuming Brownhill leaves over the next few months; I think in Nagy, Morrell, Walsh, HNM (and perhaps Smith for a bit of versatility and experience) we'd have a nice blend of midfielders with complimentary styles. I hope we give that group a chance over the next year if we're still in this league. Not much height there though. I know that’s not everything, but sometimes I do think we lack a physical presence in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Not much height there though. I know that’s not everything, but sometimes I do think we lack a physical presence in midfield. i'm not too worried about height more worried about physicality which we lack, as well as the ability to challenge for the ball which we lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 37 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Not much height there though. I know that’s not everything, but sometimes I do think we lack a physical presence in midfield. 28 minutes ago, Monkeh said: i'm not too worried about height more worried about physicality which we lack, as well as the ability to challenge for the ball which we lack We lack numbers in the middle of the park over anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, RedDave said: We lack numbers in the middle of the park over anything else. brownhill nagy massingo Smith rowe Palmer Players who can fill in if needed Wienman O'dowda Watkins Players that could be recalled if needed Walsh Bakinson Morrell If anything we've got too many players who can play in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Monkeh said: brownhill nagy massingo Smith rowe Palmer Players who can fill in if needed Wienman O'dowda Watkins Players that could be recalled if needed Walsh Bakinson Morrell If anything we've got too many players who can play in the middle Haha You can’t play all of them at the same time! Numbers as in how many people are in the middle of the park on a match day. i.e two rather than three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 He is making the most of this loan, looks to have developed physically and his decision making. Three from Walsh, Morrell, Nagy, Massengo would be a strong midfield next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Not much height there though. I know that’s not everything, but sometimes I do think we lack a physical presence in midfield. That is true, good point and probably why that balance isn't realistic. I like Smith but he'd probably be the one i'd let go to bring in a taller player if anyone. Someone with experience, physicality and guile. In the mid 2000s there seemed to be glut of midfielders floating about with the attributes we seem to miss in midfield - Marvin Elliot, Dickson Etuhu etc. I wonder if the game has moved on but there seems to be far less of that box-to-box style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 24/01/2020 at 17:29, Fordy62 said: I will be so annoyed if we have that **** stain COD in the side and we let Walsh go on a free without even trying him. Bit harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: That is true, good point and probably why that balance isn't realistic. I like Smith but he'd probably be the one i'd let go to bring in a taller player if anyone. Someone with experience, physicality and guile. In the mid 2000s there seemed to be glut of midfielders floating about with the attributes we seem to miss in midfield - Marvin Elliot, Dickson Etuhu etc. I wonder if the game has moved on but there seems to be far less of that box-to-box style. Saying that @The Dolman Pragmatist, I totally forgot about Bakinson. Can't see it happening realistically - but I'd love to see us start next season with a midfield group of Bakinson, Walsh, Morrell, HNM and Nagy - (Smith stays as useful experience/cover and fill in at play right back if necessary). I think that blend is pretty complimentary and sends a message to young players that they can make it in the first team if they apply themselves over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Saying that @The Dolman Pragmatist, I totally forgot about Bakinson. Can't see it happening realistically - but I'd love to see us start next season with a midfield group of Bakinson, Walsh, Morrell, HNM and Nagy - (Smith stays as useful experience/cover and fill in at play right back if necessary). I think that blend is pretty complimentary and sends a message to young players that they can make it in the first team if they apply themselves over time. I'd start one of walsh bakinson and morrell, with the other 2 being on the bench, (unless we get promoted) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Think we need to give Bakinson a season in league one before we start getting too excited about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, RedDave said: Think we need to give Bakinson a season in league one before we start getting too excited about him That’s probably right and I think we will. I like the look of him though. I had heard the issue with him was more about attitude than ability so hopefully a couple of loans iron that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 19 hours ago, GlastonburyRed said: Yay - more midfielders!!! Busy little bees . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Really rate Walsh. Love to see him back playing with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Hard to know for sure without seeing Lincoln and Coventry games. But I reckon it might be best to go with Walsh, Morrell, Nagy and Massengo competing for 2 or 3 places. Korey maybe as well depending on how well he does from now till the end of the season. But those other 4 should be enough. I'm only slightly concerned about Nagy and his inconsistency. But let's see how he does. Wouldn't shock me if we sold him in the summer if he isn't settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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