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13 hours ago, Hampshire reds said:

how was that not a pen .luke Ayling  dived at the ball. officials have to be brave at places like elland road. he took the easy way out and not give it. its poor. it could have changed the game. 

We got battered. It could of been 5-0 . Stop moaning about a decision we didn’t get and move on . We were ******* terrible yesterday . 

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1 hour ago, Olé said:

Absolutely this. I was going mad during the game counting out the number of times a City player was pulled back and screaming at the ref to get a card out.

Don't see too many mentions re Massengo on their players in the box, early doors. The first (Dallas) where he clearly pulled him back and over. The second, seconds later, where in preparation of the kick the ref pointed at Massengo intimating ' I can see what you are doing' only to proceed do nothing when Massengo again grabbed their player's shirt for what should have been a pen. Became so routine that by the second half the ref had to speak to the haired one through Williams in case he wasn't au fait with the laws of the game.

Yes the ref was poor. Yes we should have had a penalty. But by the same token we should have had 3 or 4 awarded against us and we should have been down to ten men after 8 minutes. Funny how the myopic (and I'm not putting you Ole in that category) never admit to that. 

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When he first signed for City, I was told by a few sources close to YTFC that Ayling was a bit of a clown, the dressing room idiot, and had a long way to go in regards to maturing as a professional. They were totally unsurprised by his actions after the Cheltenham incident. I still think that day at the races had a lot to do with him being sold to Leeds. 

He’s a very good footballer, there’s no denying that. However, theres a fine line between confidence and arrogance. Maybe my opinion has been influenced by what I was told previously, but I think he draws that line with a very thick marker pen. 

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2 hours ago, SPAZZA said:

What does that say?

Maybe he didn’t like the way he was shoved out at City for a basement price.

You think he’s still bitter about being made to leave little old Bristol City and sign for Leeds?

I’d have thought he’d be over it by now but maybe not...

 

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Of course Ayling was going to celebrate. But Elland Road has plenty of Leeds fans to celebrate with. Pulling his badge almost off his shirt to kiss it, right in front of our little corner was provocative, unpleasant and uncalled for. Whatever his complaint with the management, it isn't the fans fault. He was well respected and admired as a member of our most successful squad in decades. He was hardly hounded out by public demand. I have lost all respect for him now. 

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1 hour ago, BTRFTG said:

Don't see too many mentions re Massengo on their players in the box, early doors. The first (Dallas) where he clearly pulled him back and over. The second, seconds later, where in preparation of the kick the ref pointed at Massengo intimating ' I can see what you are doing' only to proceed do nothing when Massengo again grabbed their player's shirt for what should have been a pen. Became so routine that by the second half the ref had to speak to the haired one through Williams in case he wasn't au fait with the laws of the game.

Yes the ref was poor. Yes we should have had a penalty. But by the same token we should have had 3 or 4 awarded against us and we should have been down to ten men after 8 minutes. Funny how the myopic (and I'm not putting you Ole in that category) never admit to that. 

We should have had 3 or 4 penalties against us? Nonsense.   Just because 34,000 Leeds fans are trying to intimidate the ref  doesn't mean its a pen.

Also, how could we have been down to 10 after 8 minutes?  I've no idea what you mean - no hint of a professional foul / last man offence???? 

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3 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

He hasn’t turned into one mate. He always was one, just sadly someone who wasn’t appreciated by Johnson and was let go for less than a quarter of his market value (see Freeman). 
 

Im pleased he’s doing well. Always thought he was harshly treated and always said he’d go onto bigger things than Bristol City. Sadly, I was right. 
 

As for kissing the badge, why on earth wouldn’t he?

Agree. I think too many look at those runs into midfield and see a flawed defender. His back-post positioning and heading were exemplary.  His covering of Flint unnoticed.  Only Williams covers his CB as well as Ayling did for us.  Always happy to receive a ball, importantly with his head-up...means he can go line or inside, with a good first touch to execute that. @SPAZZA you got a good’un so cheap.

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24 minutes ago, Fatalist said:

We should have had 3 or 4 penalties against us? Nonsense.   Just because 34,000 Leeds fans are trying to intimidate the ref  doesn't mean its a pen.

Also, how could we have been down to 10 after 8 minutes?  I've no idea what you mean - no hint of a professional foul / last man offence???? 

First 8 minutes Massengo twice pulled back players in the box both offenses of which merit a booking and penalty. He continued to do so throughout. If you claim Ayling's as handball I think it was Baker who did likewise. There were also additional dirt tugs and pushing by us during Leeds onslaught inside the box. Leeds fans are boorish gobsh*tes of the first water but doesn't mean when they clamour for a penalty it wasn't one.

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Not how I saw it at all. Is it really likely that the ref would take the trouble to warn Massengo via the captain, and then let him repeat the offence "throughout" without giving anything?

No chance of hands against Baker. If you actually believe Leeds should have had 4 penalties, I'll bet you are the only one who does.

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14 hours ago, mozo said:

Umm... kissing the badge like that for your goal celebration against the club that helped hou on your way? Totally inappropriate. 

Fairly sure LJ told him he didn’t think he was good enough to play in the system he wanted. Edged out the side toward the end of his time. 
 

Always gave 100% for us, now no doubt on more money playing in front of more people & occasionally captain of that Leeds side. Totally fair bins to celebrate like he did imo and rather players do that than just stand there apologising for scoring against their old club tbh

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2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Agree. I think too many look at those runs into midfield and see a flawed defender. His back-post positioning and heading were exemplary.  His covering of Flint unnoticed.  Only Williams covers his CB as well as Ayling did for us.  Always happy to receive a ball, importantly with his head-up...means he can go line or inside, with a good first touch to execute that. @SPAZZA you got a good’un so cheap.

Not many right backs about at this level that impact a game as consistently as Ayling does 

 

always , always ,on the front foot

Really like him as a player , and one of the best all round ‘footballers’ we’ve had in the last 10-20 years IMHO

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8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Not many right backs about at this level that impact a game as consistently as Ayling does 

 

always , always ,on the front foot

Really like him as a player , and one of the best all round ‘footballers’ we’ve had in the last 10-20 years IMHO

Arsenal pedigree.  Some bollocks on twitter about being respectful for rescuing his career.

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5 hours ago, phantom said:

To me he clearly looked fired up yesterday 

Could , may be , also the fact that they are aiming for automatic promotion, have just got a good point at Brentford and were looking to get back on track backed by 30000 Yorkshiremen in their own backyard  or maybe it was facing his old club that ‘ fired him up ‘ more ? 
 

Who knows ?

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15 hours ago, Harry said:

Wasn’t just the penalty. Leeds made numerous ‘tactical’ fouls all game. 
Whilst we didn’t get many opportunities to attack, every time we did finally get a semblance of a break and we had someone go past a Leeds player, he was brought down. 
Every time. 
Ref only booked 1 of their players for this. There were about 10 similar fouls that halted any attack we made. 
Clever by Leeds. Poor by the ref. 

This is our issue, if we are going to play awful football we need to at least be tactical in the way in which we stop other teams playing. For far too many years now we have been far too nice. Thats fine if you are playing beautiful football, however we are not and we need to grind results out for the rest of the season if we are going to make the top six. whatever it takes. There is no point now trying to change our style even if it is awful to watch. we might as well do whatever we need to do to get results!

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1 hour ago, Major Isewater said:

Could , may be , also the fact that they are aiming for automatic promotion, have just got a good point at Brentford and were looking to get back on track backed by 30000 Yorkshiremen in their own backyard  or maybe it was facing his old club that ‘ fired him up ‘ more ? 
 

Who knows ?

:dunno:

It's a puzzler isn't it?

And there were as many home fans in the lower tier of that end of the West stand as there were City fans in the upper.

I said it before the game and it's being proved on here after the game. If you don't go near Ayling he can't flop. But time and time again players fall for it. Who's stupid? The player who induces the foul or the dimwits who consistently, despite, an immense amount of pre-match intelligence being available, can't use their brains?

The way some of you are speaking you would think that football is some sort of gentleman's game where City were bullied by the 'Players'.

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16 minutes ago, SR1 said:

It's a puzzler isn't it?

And there were as many home fans in the lower tier of that end of the West stand as there were City fans in the upper.

I said it before the game and it's being proved on here after the game. If you don't go near Ayling he can't flop. But time and time again players fall for it. Who's stupid? The player who induces the foul or the dimwits who consistently, despite, an immense amount of pre-match intelligence being available, can't use their brains?

The way some of you are speaking you would think that football is some sort of gentleman's game where City were bullied by the 'Players'.

The game is being progressively ruined by cynical shit-housery.

Time-wasting, fouling players on a run, head-clutching....

Referees are too weak and indecisive to do anything other than give out the occasional booking that has no baring on the actual game in play.

Ayling adds a new element to this win at all costs cheating - fall over during a tackle to ensure you win the freekick.

He's a ***** and I have no respect for him regardless of talent.

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24 minutes ago, SR1 said:

It's a puzzler isn't it?

And there were as many home fans in the lower tier of that end of the West stand as there were City fans in the upper.

I said it before the game and it's being proved on here after the game. If you don't go near Ayling he can't flop. But time and time again players fall for it. Who's stupid? The player who induces the foul or the dimwits who consistently, despite, an immense amount of pre-match intelligence being available, can't use their brains?

The way some of you are speaking you would think that football is some sort of gentleman's game where City were bullied by the 'Players'.

That part of Ayling's game didn't annoy me. Like you say, just don't stick a leg out.

Also, I love it when Massengo goes to ground in tight spots so can't be a hypocrite!

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Didn’t Ayling leave because we signed Adam Matthews on season loan after he played really well season before? I thought that Ayling left because he didn’t want to be second choice. 
Yes the Cheltenham incident didn’t help but surely if that was the main reason then why wasn’t Pack and Wilbraham bombed out as well? 

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5 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Didn’t Ayling leave because we signed Adam Matthews on season loan after he played really well season before? I thought that Ayling left because he didn’t want to be second choice.

I think LJ said he wouldn’t be automatic first choice.  Whatever really happened we didn’t get enough £s for him imho.


Yes the Cheltenham incident didn’t help but surely if that was the main reason then why wasn’t Pack and Wilbraham bombed out as well? 

 

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4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

 

IIRC LJ explained to LA that he’d be ‘getting less game time’

Shame IMHO , could be argued a bigger loss than Josh, Flint or Bryan 

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7 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

IIRC LJ explained to LA that he’d be ‘getting less game time’

Shame IMHO , could be argued a bigger loss than Josh, Flint or Bryan 

Yep, that’s the correct wording. Ta

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33 minutes ago, Xiled said:

The game is being progressively ruined by cynical shit-housery.

Time-wasting, fouling players on a run, head-clutching....

Referees are too weak and indecisive to do anything other than give out the occasional booking that has no baring on the actual game in play.

Ayling adds a new element to this win at all costs cheating - fall over during a tackle to ensure you win the freekick.

He's a ***** and I have no respect for him regardless of talent.

 

31 minutes ago, mozo said:

That part of Ayling's game didn't annoy me. Like you say, just don't stick a leg out.

Also, I love it when Massengo goes to ground in tight spots so can't be a hypocrite!

Thankfully it's not just a one way mirror it seems.

It would annoy the shit out of me, but I don't think I'd be using it as anything other than a deflection after not so much a bad day at the office but a day where the office had been blown away by Storm Dennis.

Ayling's been with us for 3 1/2 years after not being first choice at City. I think he'll be able to cope if one or two of you 'lose respect' for him but the two of you are no longer acquainted professionally. He's an echo of a bygone era at City.

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1 hour ago, SR1 said:

It's a puzzler isn't it?

And there were as many home fans in the lower tier of that end of the West stand as there were City fans in the upper.

I said it before the game and it's being proved on here after the game. If you don't go near Ayling he can't flop. But time and time again players fall for it. Who's stupid? The player who induces the foul or the dimwits who consistently, despite, an immense amount of pre-match intelligence being available, can't use their brains?

The way some of you are speaking you would think that football is some sort of gentleman's game where City were bullied by the 'Players'.

You were much better than us and Ayling is a good player but his flops are ******* embarrassing - it’s unnecessary and he can win without that rubbish. 
 

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Luke looked a bit delicate yesterday, to be fair.  I was a tad concerned for his welfare as each time a City player got into a 50/50 with him, he went down dramatically.  He displayed an element of the game that I find a bit distasteful............looked a bit of a tart, really.  Disappointing, but not isolated to him, sadly there's a lot of lads in the game that have perfected the loud fall.  

Back in my day, if you went down like that, it was because someone had given you a right upper cut in the penalty box whilst the ref was having a crafty fag waiting for a corner to be taken. 

(if you're reading this David 'Syd' Lawrence.......I can still feel the daylight beneath my boots.  Good shot, Sir!).  Never saw you do that on a cricket pitch, though!

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2 minutes ago, JackofromSanJavier said:

Luke looked a bit delicate yesterday, to be fair.  I was a tad concerned for his welfare as each time a City player got into a 50/50 with him, he went down dramatically.  He displayed an element of the game that I find a bit distasteful............looked a bit of a tart, really.  Disappointing, but not isolated to him, sadly there's a lot of lads in the game that have perfected the loud fall.  

Back in my day, if you went down like that, it was because someone had given you a right upper cut in the penalty box whilst the ref was having a crafty fag waiting for a corner to be taken. 

(if you're reading this David 'Syd' Lawrence.......I can still feel the daylight beneath my boots.  Good shot, Sir!).  Never saw you do that on a cricket pitch, though!

Im ‘only’ 37 but play some 7 a side with some mid 20s guys and the amount of moaning and whining if you go in with a bit of force or leave a bit on someone is ridiculous. If it happens to me I just think “fair play, I owe you one”. I don’t ever do anything dangerous, but enjoy the physical battle of it. 
 

Tbf, they have nicknamed me the Bristol Busquets for my knack of ‘breaking up’ play 😂 

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38 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

 

I agree the fee was a joke and should of got more. But IMO I thought Matthews was good in the final run in the season before, but Ayling should of stayed as well. And in hindsight he would of played more that season anyway. 

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21 minutes ago, RedSA said:

You were much better than us and Ayling is a good player but his flops are ******* embarrassing - it’s unnecessary and he can win without that rubbish. 
 

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As I said if it was against my team I'd feel the same way. For a while. And then get on with it.

Ayling can't fall if brain dead footballers don't make basic mistakes. I'd be flaming the dimwits who fall for it. And just for the record most of them ARE fouls. If they were pure dives he'd have been sussed out by now. He induces fouls from players only too willing to oblige him.

Another exponent is Jack 'no centre of gravity' Grealish. Hate his theatrics, but if he was playing for us? Less so.

And yes, most of you would love the cheeky chappy if he was doing it for you.

 

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2 minutes ago, SR1 said:

As I said if it was against my team I'd feel the same way. For a while. And then get on with it.

Ayling can't fall if brain dead footballers don't make basic mistakes. I'd be flaming the dimwits who fall for it. And just for the record most of them ARE fouls. If they were pure dives he'd have been sussed out by now. He induces fouls from players only too willing to oblige him.

And yes, most of you would love the cheeky chappy if he was doing it for you.

 

Yes, our lot are idiots for falling for it too. (Excuse the pun)

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3 minutes ago, RedSA said:

Yes, our lot are idiots for falling for it too. 

It's every team though, that's the thing. I mentioned it in one of the threads about him pre-match (he does appear to be quite a cause celebre on here). I don't quite know when it became a 'thing' but he's developed it. That said he has a strange way of running naturally and he doesn't have natural pace which is probably why he gets caught a bit.

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18 hours ago, Harry said:

Wasn’t just the penalty. Leeds made numerous ‘tactical’ fouls all game. 
Whilst we didn’t get many opportunities to attack, every time we did finally get a semblance of a break and we had someone go past a Leeds player, he was brought down. 
Every time. 
Ref only booked 1 of their players for this. There were about 10 similar fouls that halted any attack we made. 
Clever by Leeds. Poor by the ref. 

Brazil have been doing that for decades, same as Argentina, Uruguay etc.

 

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Yes I must admit it shows a distinct lack of respect on his part. He was part of our double winning squad and playing for us gave him the springboard to go on and further his career.

He got his move to his boyhood team but don't forget where you came from and who helped make you the player you are today.

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22 hours ago, JonDolman said:

Kind of reminds me of playing against Warnock sides. Just keep kicking us meaning we can't get any rhythm and their players can get back in position. Frustrating to watch.

Obviously on the ball they're amazing and nothing like a Warnock side! But without the ball very clever in their constant fouling.

.....another uncalled for dig at the most successful manager ever in this country (promotions) ...😄✌️🍷

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5 hours ago, RedSA said:

I don’t ever do anything dangerous, but enjoy the physical battle of it. 

Tbf, they have nicknamed me the Bristol Busquets for my knack of ‘breaking up’ play 😂 

You may have misheard ... “Bristol Biscuits”... 😎

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5 hours ago, SR1 said:

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Ayling can't fall if brain dead footballers don't make basic mistakes. I'd be flaming the dimwits who fall for it.

[...]

Do you blame an old lady for being stupid enough to get mugged?

Leeds deserved to win. No problem with that.

Ayling's a cheat. No need to excuse that.

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Anyone else watch the 'Bielsa Cam' footage showing LJ physically pushing Ayling away whilst giving the lads a team talk whilst Weimann was down?

He was sneaking in trying to listen in on what was being said.

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I've also heard that he's single-handedly responsible for the Coronavirus and the South Wales floods.

In the grand scheme of things Luke Ayling seems to be far more important than you'd initially think.😃

8 hours ago, Xiled said:

Do you blame an old lady for being stupid enough to get mugged?

Leeds deserved to win. No problem with that.

Ayling's a cheat. No need to excuse that.

I didn't. But do carry on.

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1 hour ago, SR1 said:

I've also heard that he's single-handedly responsible for the Coronavirus and the South Wales floods.

In the grand scheme of things Luke Ayling seems to be far more important than you'd initially think.😃

😄

Yeah, I'm struggling to sleep at night.

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After watching Main Site highlights and Sky Highlights...........i am still waitng to see Aylings commiting the handball, that according to LJ was a nailed on 100% penalty?  Anyone any ideas where it can be seen please?   🙃

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1 hour ago, WarksRobin said:

Anyone else see this? More Leeds spying tactics 😂

 

Would certainly hope one of our lads had the nous to do this if the roles were reversed.

 

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2 minutes ago, maxjak said:

After watching Main Site highlights and Sky Highlights...........i am still waitng to see Aylings commiting the handball, that according to LJ was a nailed on 100% penalty?  Anyone any ideas where it can be seen please?   🙃

According to most (I still haven’t seen it) it was a handball.

However the fact you are still hanging onto this possibly shows you fail to see the handball wasn’t the reason you didn’t get anything out of the game.

Concentrating on why you were so piss poor and improving that will stand you in better stead to get into the playoffs, rather than looking back on a poor reffing decision.

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1 hour ago, WarksRobin said:

Anyone else see this? More Leeds spying tactics 😂

 

The City players have not understood Johnson’s team talks for 4 years, so no chance of Luke A understanding him!!!!

 

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5 minutes ago, SPAZZA said:

According to most (I still haven’t seen it) it was a handball.

However the fact you are still hanging onto this possibly shows you fail to see the handball wasn’t the reason you didn’t get anything out of the game.

Concentrating on why you were so piss poor and improving that will stand you in better stead to get into the playoffs, rather than looking back on a poor reffing decision.

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It's the end of another season and Leeds are doing what they always do....

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Personally I hope Leeds go up. Proper old skool football club.

Well backed by passionate fans. It is what the Prem needs. Having worked in Yorkshire on several occasions, it has to be said that you don’t get many “plastics” at Elland road. Proper football fans in my experience. Backed by a brilliant coach in Bielsa, they play attractive football also. Good luck to them. 

The old AG was a similar ground until the new AG ground came along. But that’s progress apparently.

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16 minutes ago, SPAZZA said:

According to most (I still haven’t seen it) it was a handball.

However the fact you are still hanging onto this possibly shows you fail to see the handball wasn’t the reason you didn’t get anything out of the game.

Concentrating on why you were so piss poor and improving that will stand you in better stead to get into the playoffs, rather than looking back on a poor reffing decision.

Listen you. I've spent ages trying to be reasonably respectful to our hosts here and along you come undoing all my work.🤔

Plenty on here know what happened on the pith but that doesn't make it illegal to comment about a potential penalty no matter how skewed the game was at the time. Remember Gordon Watson's swallow dive at Hillsbrough all those years ago? Yeah, well we won 6-1. That would not have been a ridiculous score on Saturday either, but if it's a penalty it's a bloody penalty! It should have been a consolation goal, not a potential point winner.

To be honest there's more about Ayling than anything which I do think is a bit excessive after all this time but clearly some (not all) bear grudges. That would never happen on a Leeds forum would it?😂

I have no idea why the smileys above have gone supersized!

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10 minutes ago, SR1 said:

Listen you. I've spent ages trying to be reasonably respectful to our hosts here and along you come undoing all my work.🤔

Plenty on here know what happened on the pith but that doesn't make it illegal to comment about a potential penalty no matter how skewed the game was at the time. Remember Gordon Watson's swallow dive at Hillsbrough all those years ago? Yeah, well we won 6-1. That would not have been a ridiculous score on Saturday either, but if it's a penalty it's a bloody penalty! It should have been a consolation goal, not a potential point winner.

To be honest there's more about Ayling than anything which I do think is a bit excessive after all this time but clearly some (not all) bear grudges. That would never happen on a Leeds forum would it?😂

I have no idea why the smileys above have gone supersized!

I’m pretty respectful on here tbh.

I think sometimes BCFC fans have to change mentality to push their team over the line, my match summaries on here in recent years have been met with agreement about BCFCs plight.

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On 15/02/2020 at 23:48, mozo said:

Umm... kissing the badge like that for your goal celebration against the club that helped hou on your way? Totally inappropriate. 

Isn't Ayling a Leeds fan?

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