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4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Touching the same tennis balls so distance is irrelevant really. And one game was doubles!

Depends on their relationship to each other. If I went and played tennis with the wife, it’s not really any different to us staying in. Some housemates going to play tennis isn’t any extra risk. As long as they stay away from others of course!

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1 minute ago, BS2 Red said:

Depends on their relationship to each other. If I went and played tennis with the wife, it’s not really any different to us staying in. Some housemates going to play tennis isn’t any extra risk. As long as they stay away from others of course!

Going to be touching stuff there like the net etc. Virus can live for days.  Just stay in innit unless out for good 

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13 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Going to be touching stuff there like the net etc. Virus can live for days.  Just stay in innit unless out for good 

I agree, people should stay in. Tennis seems a low risk compared to Tesco though.

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4 hours ago, daored said:

I agree , from my perspective we have a three month old baby who had open heart surgery at six weeks old. I’ve banned my partners parents from visiting, as they’ve continued to visit pubs and socialise and both work in schools as a caretaker and dinner lady. He hasn’t gone done well 

You’re doing the right thing, tough shit to anyone too thick to understand why we ALL need to take drastic measures.

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33 minutes ago, wood_red said:

That is my issue with these type of stories being reported on clickbait sites, you have found a story with 3 people on Twitter claiming they got it at the Cheltenham Festival (maybe they have, maybe they haven't). I, personally really don't see the point of posting that on here when it is so obvious those 3 people couldn't give a toss about the disease as they still attended, and because they couldn't give a toss how many other gatherings have they been to in the last couple of weeks?? You posted it up that it was factually correct they got it there, maybe you didn't mean it as that but that is exactly how I read it with the actual wording you used.

 

It was exactly who you read it because you chose to read it that way, not because of the wording I used. I did not state or even imply that in what I posted. You just chose to interpret it that way.

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17 hours ago, cityloyal473 said:

Nope. Try again. I'll help you out: a precedent is related to historical terms.  Two weeks is not historical. If City won on the 1st of March, drew on the 8th of March, won a midweek game on the 11th,  and lost on the 15th, what is the historical precedence?  I'll not stay up all night waiting for your answer. 

Respectfully, stop with the strawman. 

Fact is we had prior information on this and were slow to act, that's the point. 

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24 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

 

I think people should stop caring about what’s briefed in the Times or Telegraph. It only serves to distract the public from the bigger picture which is Johnson’s inaction on closing down public spaces and the potential manslaughter of NHS staff from not being supplied with PPE. 

This happened under Theresa May with Grenfell and Windrush where the right-wind press found scapegoats or ways to frame the story in a different way. Although it’s tempting to pile into Cummings after this story everyone should to stop and think whether they're being manipulated. 
 

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16 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Tesco is a needed risk. Tennis isnt

Queuing up to panic buy bog roll while in very close contact with 500+ people, isn’t necessary or sensible. 

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8 minutes ago, Odysseus said:

I think people should stop caring about what’s briefed in the Times or Telegraph. It only serves to distract the public from the bigger picture which is Johnson’s inaction on closing down public spaces and the potential manslaughter of NHS staff from not being supplied with PPE. 

This happened under Theresa May with Grenfell and Windrush where the right-wind press found scapegoats or ways to frame the story in a different way. Although it’s tempting to pile into Cummings after this story everyone should to stop and think whether they're being manipulated. 
 

The very reason I posted the full article is because it’s just as critical of Johnson as it is of Cummings. It’s also from The Times, which lends enormous weight as they are not a lefty or anti-Tory paper.

The article does exactly what you request, it highlights Johnson’s failures and inactions with regards to closing public spaces.

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39 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

It was exactly who you read it because you chose to read it that way, not because of the wording I used. I did not state or even imply that in what I posted. You just chose to interpret it that way.

When you post a story about the Cheltenham Festival with 3 Twitter users claiming they got the virus there, and you start by saying in your own words "people who got it there" and then added "contract it there", I am unsure how I am meant to interpret it in any other way bar the fact you are saying they got it there!!!

You have now changed to "we don't know if they got it there". 

My initial response was replying to what you actually posted - it maybe worth reading your initial post and try and see how else I, or anyone else, was meant to interpret it.

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19 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

The very reason I posted the full article is because it’s just as critical of Johnson as it is of Cummings. It’s also from The Times, which lends enormous weight as they are not a lefty or anti-Tory paper.

The article does exactly what you request, it highlights Johnson’s failures and inactions with regards to closing public spaces.

It’s a soft article that paints Johnson as being momentarily misled in testing circumstances but then pulling through with the help of his ministers and advisers. It even says Johnson was uncomfortable about the phrasing of herd immunity. It says little about the real crisis facing the government.

Getting the public fixated on “human drama” is what the Times does best. In this article Cummings comments are paraphrased and we don’t even know what he exactly said. That’s the purpose of lobby journalists. 
 

The government will do what it always does and blame everyone they possibly can before taking blame. They’re now getting ready to blame the public for this disaster and a lot of people here are helping them. 

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6 minutes ago, Odysseus said:

It’s a soft article that paints Johnson as being momentarily misled in testing circumstances but then pulling through with the help of his ministers and advisers. It even says Johnson was uncomfortable about the phrasing of herd immunity. It says little about the real crisis facing the government.

Getting the public fixated on “human drama” is what the Times does best. In this article Cummings comments are paraphrased and we don’t even know what he exactly said. That’s the purpose of lobby journalists. 
 

The government will do what it always does and blame everyone they possibly can before taking blame. They’re now getting ready to blame the public for this disaster and a lot of people here are helping them. 

We cannot have that can we.......

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12 minutes ago, wood_red said:

When you post a story about the Cheltenham Festival with 3 Twitter users claiming they got the virus there, and you start by saying in your own words "people who got it there" and then added "contract it there", I am unsure how I am meant to interpret it in any other way bar the fact you are saying they got it there!!!

You have now changed to "we don't know if they got it there". 

My initial response was replying to what you actually posted - it maybe worth reading your initial post and try and see how else I, or anyone else, was meant to interpret it.

 

You thought I meant one thing. I did not mean that thing and have explained that several times. Yet, rather than accept that you misinterpreted what I meant, you seem to be detemined to tell me you know what I meant better than I did and are taking snippets out of context to try to pretend I said and meant things I very, very clear did not from the context of the post.

If you read what I originally posted, it is very, very clear what I meant. Please stop erroneously telling me what I meant and please stop pretending you know what I meant better than I did. You interpreted what I meant differently to how I meant it. I'd be grateful if you would just accept that and stop trying to incorrectly pretend you know what I was really trying to say. It really is quite odd behaviour. 

2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Christ I’m bored. For the first time ever just experimented with self raising flower in the Yorkshire’s. Rock and Roll we are. 

I'm so bored I'm hoping you post photos of the results!

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2 minutes ago, wood_red said:

We cannot have that can we.......

The Times can do what they like, there’s plenty of propaganda defending the government, that’s understandable. You believe in and support the government, that’s fine. My point is this soft lobby journalism manipulates people who ARE critical of the government into concentrating on largely unimportant gossip.

Fair enough if there’s a real whistleblower who wants to expose the government but with the same journos it’s often a minister trying to change the story or settle a personal dispute with an adviser like Cummings. 

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20 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

You seem to be out quite a bit.

Went out yesterday to get food and take food to my vulnerable in laws.  Went out today to take cakes to the hospital to keep morale up for the nurses. Before that I self isolated for two weeks.

is that okay with you ? 

Stop being a knob. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Strawman. 

Pick the stupidest example and run with it to illustrate your point

It’s hardly a stupid example. The supermarkets are packed and people are panic buying things like toilet paper.

You’re guilty of the false fallacy fallacy. ;) 

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7 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Christ I’m bored. For the first time ever just experimented with self raising flower in the Yorkshire’s. Rock and Roll we are. 

Well you can't leave us in suspense.

 

How did it go, what meat and veg are you having? Did you open a bottle of wine?!?!?!

At times like this, these details are important.

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3 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

 

You thought I meant one thing. I did not mean that thing and have explained that several times. Yet, rather than accept that you misinterpreted what I meant, you seem to be detemined to tell me you know what I meant better than I did and are taking snippets out of context to try to pretend I said and meant things I very, very clear did not from the context of the post.

If you read what I originally posted, it is very, very clear what I meant. Please stop erroneously telling me what I meant and please stop pretending you know what I meant better than I did. You interpreted what I meant differently to how I meant it. I'd be grateful if you would just accept that and stop trying to incorrectly pretend you know what I was really trying to say. It really is quite odd behaviour. 

I have read it several times. Your first lines states "Or course people who got it there might have got it elsewhere but it does not need that many people who did not previously have it to contract it there before it is being introduced to communities where it was not present before and thus further the spread".

 

Seriously how am I, or anyone meant to read that and think you are saying they haven't got the virus at the Cheltenham Festival?? My English is reading the part of "of course people who got it there" as the people in the story got it there. You then say "people who did not have it to contract it there". How is anyone meant to interpret that??

It may not be what you meant but your wording in that one sentence is stating they "got it there" not "may have got it there".

I find it odd behaviour that you cannot see it as I have.

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14 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Went out yesterday to get food and take food to my vulnerable in laws.  Went out today to take cakes to the hospital to keep morale up for the nurses. Before that I self isolated for two weeks.

is that okay with you ? 

Stop being a knob. 

You're making unnecessary trips to a hospital, yet @Lew-TT is a knob...!!

 

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