barneyrubble Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Anyone have any idea what the application process is for the manager job. I'm intrigued as to what actually happens, is it a formal process ie form , task,interview or is it we fancy you come and have a chat here's the job. Would love it if all candidates had to put on sessions for fans to watch ,then pick a team and manage it for a practice match. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefence Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, barneyrubble said: Anyone have any idea what the application process is for the manager job. I'm intrigued as to what actually happens, is it a formal process ie form , task,interview or is it we fancy you come and have a chat here's the job. That's an interesting question - I was only thinking the same myself. Do they follow the same process as other corporates, i'm assuming they must shortlist from all the applications they recieve (in whatever guise that takes - does an interested potential manager send in his CV or get his agent to do it?). How many would they normally interview for example? It would be really interesting to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Onthefence said: That's an interesting question - I was only thinking the same myself. Do they follow the same process as other corporates, i'm assuming they must shortlist from all the applications they recieve (in whatever guise that takes - does an interested potential manager send in his CV or get his agent to do it?). How many would they normally interview for example? It would be really interesting to know. 41 minutes ago, barneyrubble said: Anyone have any idea what the application process is for the manager job. I'm intrigued as to what actually happens, is it a formal process ie form , task,interview or is it we fancy you come and have a chat here's the job. Would love it if all candidates had to put on sessions for fans to watch ,then pick a team and manage it for a practice match. Anyone know? I would imagine the club will have their preferred list , and contact will be made via agents to identify if individual is interested. Likewise , agents will contact the club to advise their client is interested who may not have been considered previously. I know Lee said he did a PowerPoint presentation as part of his interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, daored said: I would imagine the club will have their preferred list , and contact will be made via agents to identify if individual is interested. Likewise , agents will contact the club to advise their client is interested who may not have been considered previously. I know Lee said he did a PowerPoint presentation as part of his interview So Dave Gorman’s not the only comedian who uses PowerPoint then?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGBjammy Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 I think you have to send in your best save from Football Manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Do they have to wait untilI Indeed send them the applicants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Amazes me that Ashton hasn’t had a couple of suitable candidates lined up since early January. It was pretty obvious that something was badly wrong around the time of the Shrewsbury matches and that he would have to find a replacement before July (thinking pre pandemic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 They have to reply to every applicant (same as any company would). Literally anybody can apply by sending a CV with a covering letter they have to write back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: They have to reply to every applicant (same as any company would). Literally anybody can apply by sending a CV with a covering letter they have to write back to you. I’m not sure they have to, although clearly it’s polite for them to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 It's all a bit silly & pointless isn't it? It's top level sport, identify the best man for your club ( or project as it's now called) and sell the club to them. Do we really think Jürgen sent a CV and letter to Liverpool and sat there in his best suit being asked " So Jürgen - is it ok to call you Jürgen? - can you tell us a about a problem that you have encountered in your workplace affecting the business - how did you solve it, what tools you used and what corrective action you took to ensure the problem didn't reoccur? Feel free to use the whiteboard and your tablet to show your work." What for example is Jon Lansdown going to ask Steven Gerrard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Amazes me that Ashton hasn’t had a couple of suitable candidates lined up since early January. It was pretty obvious that something was badly wrong around the time of the Shrewsbury matches and that he would have to find a replacement before July (thinking pre pandemic). No fan of Ashton, but how do we know he hasn’t? Plus of course “suitable” candidates tend to find themselves back in work quickly, so may not be on the market by the time we had a vacancy. I expect the process is something along these lines, candidates (often through their agent) make us aware they are interested, we then sift doing due diligence & speaking to previous employers before settling on a shortlist, who are interviewed including a presentation (fairly standard these days, I did one for my current role) & then informal conversations take place around terms & support staff before we finally decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, barneyrubble said: Anyone have any idea what the application process is for the manager job. I'm intrigued as to what actually happens, is it a formal process ie form , task,interview or is it we fancy you come and have a chat here's the job. Would love it if all candidates had to put on sessions for fans to watch ,then pick a team and manage it for a practice match. Anyone know? Hi Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, barneyrubble said: Anyone have any idea what the application process is for the manager job. I'm intrigued as to what actually happens, is it a formal process ie form , task,interview or is it we fancy you come and have a chat here's the job. Would love it if all candidates had to put on sessions for fans to watch ,then pick a team and manage it for a practice match. Anyone know? I can only guess............... I imagine that JL will have idea of who he’d like to approach but as for manager’s actually applying I imagine they’d get their agent to do it for them. That said it’s common knowledge that managers gets head hunted so maybe the next man is already been signed up but the club are waiting until the end of the season before getting the fanfare trumpets out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, CodeRed said: What for example is Jon Lansdown going to ask Steven Gerrard Can I help you pick the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I’m not sure they have to, although clearly it’s polite for them to do so. Yeah they don't have to. Plenty of adverts now say something like "if you haven't heard from us within X days of the closing date, please assume your application has been unsuccessful", especially if they're expecting a large number of applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: They have to reply to every applicant (same as any company would). Literally anybody can apply by sending a CV with a covering letter they have to write back to you. In my experience of job hunting, it's extremely rare to get a reply these days. You're lucky if you can get feedback from an interview. Obviously, in this instance I'm sure a reply would be forthcoming…but then again if SL (allegedly) sacked Cotts via text, who knows?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: They have to reply to every applicant (same as any company would). Literally anybody can apply by sending a CV with a covering letter they have to write back to you. They don’t have to, most job adverts say if you don’t hear back your application hasn’t been successful or we can’t respond to all applicants individually blah blah blah. Just now, Tinmans Love Child said: They don’t have to, most job adverts say if you don’t hear back your application hasn’t been successful or we can’t respond to all applicants individually blah blah blah. Apologies didn’t see other replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, CodeRed said: It's all a bit silly & pointless isn't it? It's top level sport, identify the best man for your club ( or project as it's now called) and sell the club to them. Do we really think Jürgen sent a CV and letter to Liverpool and sat there in his best suit being asked " So Jürgen - is it ok to call you Jürgen? - can you tell us a about a problem that you have encountered in your workplace affecting the business - how did you solve it, what tools you used and what corrective action you took to ensure the problem didn't reoccur? Feel free to use the whiteboard and your tablet to show your work." What for example is Jon Lansdown going to ask Steven Gerrard You seriously think they can choose someone and offer them the job without even interviewing them? You can shortlist people on reputation, maybe, but then you have to find out whether they can work within the framework/budget etc on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, daored said: I would imagine the club will have their preferred list , and contact will be made via agents to identify if individual is interested. Likewise , agents will contact the club to advise their client is interested who may not have been considered previously. I know Lee said he did a PowerPoint presentation as part of his interview I would imagine the club will have their preferred list individual, which is why the club is waiting until the end of the season to progress matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 **** it! I’m banging an expression of interest in. I once simulated 2 whole seasons with Morecambe on Fifa, and got them promoted to the championship! Yes, the next season I only had 17 players and was sacked by October, but that’s not the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolmoose Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, CodeRed said: It's all a bit silly & pointless isn't it? It's top level sport, identify the best man for your club ( or project as it's now called) and sell the club to them. Do we really think Jürgen sent a CV and letter to Liverpool and sat there in his best suit being asked " So Jürgen - is it ok to call you Jürgen? - can you tell us a about a problem that you have encountered in your workplace affecting the business - how did you solve it, what tools you used and what corrective action you took to ensure the problem didn't reoccur? Feel free to use the whiteboard and your tablet to show your work." What for example is Jon Lansdown going to ask Steven Gerrard Sheesh, that sent chills down my spine! I've had interviews like that, usually accompanied by bollox answers from me like "Well, my biggest weakness is I'm probably too much of a perfectionist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Give me an example of a time when........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Leveller said: You seriously think they can choose someone and offer them the job without even interviewing them? You can shortlist people on reputation, maybe, but then you have to find out whether they can work within the framework/budget etc on offer. You have missed my point , of course you talk but we should target and approach suitable candidate(s). Someone in a job for example may not want to apply ( and if turned down and it becomes known- awkward). That's why think sitting back and waiting to see who applies is outdated. The fact that Captain Bullshit said "you'd be surprised who has contacted us" shows he impressed by "names". Who'd heard of Pochetino (or could even spell his name) when Saints approached him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sheene Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: They have to reply to every applicant (same as any company would). Literally anybody can apply by sending a CV with a covering letter they have to write back to you. I applied for the England managers job when they sacked Graham Taylor. Got a lovely letter back aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miser Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 It will be an interview after a series of Rorschach tests. The candidate needs to identify an over elaborate tactical plan within the patterns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamon Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, CodeRed said: You have missed my point , of course you talk but we should target and approach suitable candidate(s). Someone in a job for example may not want to apply ( and if turned down and it becomes known- awkward). That's why think sitting back and waiting to see who applies is outdated. The fact that Captain Bullshit said "you'd be surprised who has contacted us" shows he impressed by "names". Who'd heard of Pochetino (or could even spell his name) when Saints approached him I don't think it matters what captain bullshit thinks, if he even gets an opportunity to think at all. Last time we sacked a manager, a replacement was in within days... This time a week on there has been no progress at all. Draw your own conclusions, but I suspect we are I'll prepared for what had to happen after the Cardiff game and the last couple of results have put the process on hold until season finishes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, CodeRed said: You have missed my point , of course you talk but we should target and approach suitable candidate(s). Someone in a job for example may not want to apply ( and if turned down and it becomes known- awkward). That's why think sitting back and waiting to see who applies is outdated. The fact that Captain Bullshit said "you'd be surprised who has contacted us" shows he impressed by "names". Who'd heard of Pochetino (or could even spell his name) when Saints approached him I don’t think I missed your point, with respect. You implied there was no point in our board interviewing Gerrard as JL wouldn’t know what to ask him, so suggesting some candidates are above being quizzed. It is perfectly obvious that we will approach people actively as well as considering applications from less obvious candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Go on Jobsite, click, apply with your CV. I was hoping they would pay more than £180 per day though.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 58 minutes ago, gamon said: Last time we sacked a manager, a replacement was in within days Was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, gamon said: I don't think it matters what captain bullshit thinks, if he even gets an opportunity to think at all. Last time we sacked a manager, a replacement was in within days... This time a week on there has been no progress at all. Draw your own conclusions, but I suspect we are I'll prepared for what had to happen after the Cardiff game and the last couple of results have put the process on hold until season finishes... Last time we sacked a manager it was more days than you remember - 19 to be precise. Cotts was sacked on January 14. LJ was appointed 6 Feb. There was a lot of panic at the time about not having a permanent manager in place for the end of the transfer window. EDIT: SOD to Cotts was only five days though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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