Swede Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 As a previous poster has alluded to our strike force is pretty woeful. I really can't get excited by any of them. Martin needs service Diedhiou needs service Wells is petulant, played out of position or out wide and is clearly not enjoying his Bristol City experience. Semenyo hasn't scored a league goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Still getting my head around our CEO telling a Sky commentator that we’re happy to let our £5.3m top scorer for the past two seasons leave for free, about 5 months since his last public appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, petehinton said: Still getting my head around our CEO telling a Sky commentator that we’re happy to let our £5.3m top scorer for the past two seasons leave for free, about 5 months since his last public appearance And the fact that our Head Coach knows nothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: I took from it that Fam either signs or leaves for free, as “his value on the pitch will be worth it”. Unable to attract a better striker if sold in other words. Astounding strategy.....lost for words. 24 minutes ago, Olé said: Also said we were bringing in a loan player which heard nowhere else. If anyone has wondered where Mark Ashton is, he's been gas bagging with the Sky commentators at Carrow Road. In respect to Fam, I do get it - deliberate leak, and blatantly so. For player and agent message is current offer is final and negotiations over, for interested clubs in January message is up your bids or we'll see his contract out. It's to generate a reaction. It maybe, it’s from a position of complete weakness. 16 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Holden saying there is no truth in us bringing in loan signing Unless Sky have misquoted Ashton you couldn’t make it up Expects a very quiet window I sense with recent interviews that Holden is slightly going against Ashton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Astounding strategy.....lost for words. Letting your record signing from a couple years ago go on a free is an absolute shambles anyway. Club is a joke atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I shall look forward to the next time Sky decide to show us live for the next update on our contract and transfer policy and activity. Maybe if Mark Ashton is feeling really chatty whoever is commentating for Sky next time may be able to give us some info on our injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Astounding strategy.....lost for words. It maybe, it’s from a position of complete weakness. I sense with recent interviews that Holden is slightly going against Ashton. I agree - just some wisps of smoke I did say I wondered whether DH may have more balls than Johnson and speak up You have to think the walls are closing in on Ashton slowly If SL doesn’t start to identify who and where the problems lie , and act , then with due respect, he ends up with what he deserves Maybe Jon will get a grip ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Has nobody thought Fam doesn't give a hoot and won't sign won't leave and will walk away the end of the season to a nice new contract elsewhere god forbid he breaks a leg because he won't be staying here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerRed Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: I shall look forward to the next time Sky decide to show us live for the next update on our contract and transfer policy and activity. Maybe if Mark Ashton is feeling really chatty whoever is commentating for Sky next time may be able to give us some info on our injuries. I thought that. In a minute he's going to tell us Walsh and Williams are back next week . . . didn't quite happen but more interesting than the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Robin Wood said: Has nobody thought Fam doesn't give a hoot and won't sign won't leave and will walk away the end of the season to a nice new contract elsewhere god forbid he breaks a leg because he won't be staying here what a horrible thing to say, wish an injury on one of our own players. What makes it worse is your wishing it on one of our top goal scorers this season whose won us 9 points aswell as our top goalscorer for the past two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Robin Wood said: Has nobody thought Fam doesn't give a hoot and won't sign won't leave and will walk away the end of the season to a nice new contract elsewhere god forbid he breaks a leg because he won't be staying here It’s a good point - agents talk. Why would a club spend £2m on him from us when they can get him for free in 5 months and load up his wages with transfer fee saved? Fammy win, New club win, City lose. Dumbfounding how we have allowed this to happen. Plus he’s sat on the bench for most of the season!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: what a horrible thing to say, wish an injury on one of our own players. What makes it worse is your wishing it on one of our top goal scorers this season whose won us 9 points aswell as our top goalscorer for the past two seasons. He's not… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I'm not wishing an injury on him but with our recent record with injuries what happens then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Robin Wood said: Has nobody thought Fam doesn't give a hoot and won't sign won't leave and will walk away the end of the season to a nice new contract elsewhere god forbid he breaks a leg because he won't be staying here Far from his biggest fan but his effort and performance was streets ahead of 9 others tonight. We should have never let his contract get to this stage For various reasons we should have traded him 12-18 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: what a horrible thing to say, wish an injury on one of our own players. What makes it worse is your wishing it on one of our top goal scorers this season whose won us 9 points aswell as our top goalscorer for the past two seasons. I am sure he was not saying that. I think and hope he was implying that there is an element of risk there for Fam and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, TomThumb84 said: I am sure he was not saying that. I think and hope he was implying that there is an element of risk there for Fam and nothing more. Yep. misread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Far from his biggest fan but his effort and performance was streets ahead of 9 others tonight. We should have never let his contract get to this stage For various reasons we should have traded him 12-18 months ago I agree the elusive Mark Ashton probably working on new signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 The only thing I can think of is that clubs have been sending us lowball offers for Famara and this is Ashton's way of telling clubs publicly make us a good offer or we're prepared to just keep him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoTheCiderHead Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 When was it mentioned that we are hoping to bring in a loan player before the end of the window? I heard the bit about Diedhiou being allowed to run his contract down (infact I rewound it so I could record it as a mate wouldn’t believe me) and I heard Holden get asked about and refute claims about the loan player in his Radio Bristol interview. But I must have missed the bit on Sky.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 49 minutes ago, Corsham Ed said: If Fam has no interest in signing a new contract, why are we playing him? Because Semenyo isn't good enough and Wells is sulking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Far from his biggest fan but his effort and performance was streets ahead of 9 others tonight. We should have never let his contract get to this stage For various reasons we should have traded him 12-18 months ago I think 12-18 months ago Mark Ashton was on his doomed obsessive “all eggs in one basket” quest for Eddie Nketiah and was blindsided by compiling another PowerPoint for Eddie and his representatives and Arsenal in order to get it over the line. Twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Lrrr said: The only thing I can think of is that clubs have been sending us lowball offers for Famara and this is Ashton's way of telling clubs publicly make us a good offer or we're prepared to just keep him around. Shouldn’t be like that tho. Should be keeping your strong players and the club should directly let the fans know and give some clarity regarding all the contract situation and injuries. That’s why we’re all so frustrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: I agree - just some wisps of smoke I did say I wondered whether DH may have more balls than Johnson and speak up You have to think the walls are closing in on Ashton slowly If SL doesn’t start to identify who and where the problems lie , and act , then with due respect, he ends up with what he deserves Maybe Jon will get a grip ............ there’s only 1 thing he’ll get a grip of......... his crayons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Finley_Smith10 said: Shouldn’t be like that tho. Should be keeping your strong players and the club should directly let the fans know and give some clarity regarding all the contract situation and injuries. That’s why we’re all so frustrated Can't make Famara sign a new contract though, the commentator said (supposedly quoting Ashton) that we've put multiple offers in front of him, if he doesn't sign a new deal what are we supposed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: I think 12-18 months ago Mark Ashton was on his doomed obsessive “all eggs in one basket” quest for Eddie Nketiah and was blindsided by compiling another PowerPoint for Eddie and his representatives and Arsenal in order to get it over the line. Twice. That was Johnson - another exciting toy he’d spotted in Hamleys Johnson , as much as Ashton is to blame for the mess we are right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Lrrr said: Can't make Famara sign a new contract though, the commentator said (supposedly quoting Ashton) that we've put multiple offers in front of him, if he doesn't sign a new deal what are we supposed to do? Think whatever this Ashton situation is regarding him speaking to sky is a joke and needs to be cleared up. Sending the fans mixed signals if there isn’t enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 @TomThumb84 Martin could be getting less effective, or he could be getting overplayed. Bit of both? Aging players especially you need to manage well, even more so given he might have a medical condition or somesuch. If you play someone like Martin into the ground, they will produce less, diminishing returns etc. As for Diedhiou, fear we might lose him on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 If Fam walks away for nothing now Ashton hang your head in shame wherever you've been hiding don't hang Dean Holden out there like an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: @Tomthumb84 Martin could be getting less effective, or he could be getting overplayed. Bit of both? Aging players you need to manage well, especially given he might have a medical condition or somesuch. As for Diedhiou, fear we might lose him on a free. I agree re: Martin, but to then not recognise this and continue to play him is astounding from the management team. I bet he did not expect to come here and be doing shuttle-runs between centre halves and full backs for 60 mins out of every 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Holden has not had a lot of luck with injuries, however our injury crisis is so huge that most of us have quite rightly questioned the club’s physical therapy/medical team. AS SUCH The thought that we might get a loan or two is not that out of left field. We all heard the Sky Sports guy say as much. Enter Dean Holden asked the question the answer was short and bitter NO Ok from a personal perspective I am still behind Dean Holden as I don’t see him as responsible for injuries (but is responsible to do the best with what he has) The silence on any issue at our club is now deafening. Now is a good time to come out and let the supporters know something from the offices of both Chairman and the CEO Another snapped answer from Dean Holden to a reporter that was actually letting him off lightly (again) leads me to believe that there is a lot of tension behind the scenes to the point that the club has nothing positive to say to the supporters I don’t know anything like most but I can not think of another time where the club has been so closed with supporter relations If I gambled and I rarely do, but if I were to start I would have a tenner on a possible change at the top. To be clear I mean in ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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