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3 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Preston doing a lot of business - tbf it looks like they are reshaping and replacing early 

Yep, exactly right....taking advantage of January to bed in Whiteman, whilst using loans to keep them around top 10 / fringes of playoffs should they get a run going.

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Seems this is a permanent deal then, rather than loan. 
I go back to what I’ve mentioned here recently about the shift in transfer policy. 
I mentioned before how, chronologically, 6 of our last 7 permanent signings are currently over 30 years of age. Make that 7 out of 8. 
 

Now, I’ve got no problem with this, in and of itself. If we have a transfer policy that says we just want to sign any player, of any age, on any wage, as long as they improve the team, then fine. 
But that’s not the line that’s always been trotted out. 
 

Re Lansbury specifically. He’s a damn fine player. He could be very good for us. He’s had a lot of injuries (in particular a lot of soft muscle injuries - something we have a run on recently). If he can stay fit, he could be very good for us. 
 

Now that he’s terminated his Villa contract, then the finances might make a bit more sense than they did earlier. Although I’m still sure he’ll be arriving here as one of, if not the, highest paid players. 
 

It’s the whole context around it I find contradictory. As others have pointed out, we’re not sure of our budget for next season, so can’t offer existing players any contracts. The salary cap ‘on the horizon’ which might mean paying players more than £13k per week is a rarity. Yet here we are, more than likely paying at least that much, perhaps even double that, for an injury-prone 30 year old with only 42 starts in 5 and a half years of football.
 

As said, he could be a very good signing and he’s certainly been a very good player a few seasons ago. If he helps us get promoted then he pays for himself, tenfold. But I have my doubts that this will happen. I wish him all the best and hope he can kickstart his career and stay fit. I’m just a little puzzled by it all to be honest. This season, I can’t see us going up and we aren’t going down, so I think it’s an unnecessary expense and we should be looking at longer term solutions. 

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7 minutes ago, Harry said:

Seems this is a permanent deal then, rather than loan. 
I go back to what I’ve mentioned here recently about the shift in transfer policy. 
I mentioned before how, chronologically, 6 of our last 7 permanent signings are currently over 30 years of age. Make that 7 out of 8. 
 

Now, I’ve got no problem with this, in and of itself. If we have a transfer policy that says we just want to sign any player, of any age, on any wage, as long as they improve the team, then fine. 
But that’s not the line that’s always been trotted out. 
 

Re Lansbury specifically. He’s a damn fine player. He could be very good for us. He’s had a lot of injuries (in particular a lot of soft muscle injuries - something we have a run on recently). If he can stay fit, he could be very good for us. 
 

Now that he’s terminated his Villa contract, then the finances might make a bit more sense than they did earlier. Although I’m still sure he’ll be arriving here as one of, if not the, highest paid players. 
 

It’s the whole context around it I find contradictory. As others have pointed out, we’re not sure of our budget for next season, so can’t offer existing players any contracts. The salary cap ‘on the horizon’ which might mean paying players more than £13k per week is a rarity. Yet here we are, more than likely paying at least that much, perhaps even double that, for an injury-prone 30 year old with only 42 starts in 5 and a half years of football.
 

As said, he could be a very good signing and he’s certainly been a very good player a few seasons ago. If he helps us get promoted then he pays for himself, tenfold. But I have my doubts that this will happen. I wish him all the best and hope he can kickstart his career and stay fit. I’m just a little puzzled by it all to be honest. This season, I can’t see us going up and we aren’t going down, so I think it’s an unnecessary expense and we should be looking at longer term solutions. 

with a youngish midfield - I’d understand it moreso Harry if he was a leader ,and somebody who organised and held us together when the going gets tough 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Harry said:

It’s the whole context around it I find contradictory. As others have pointed out, we’re not sure of our budget for next season, so can’t offer existing players any contracts. The salary cap ‘on the horizon’ which might mean paying players more than £13k per week is a rarity. Yet here we are, more than likely paying at least that much, perhaps even double that, for an injury-prone 30 year old with only 42 starts in 5 and a half years of football.
 

As said, he could be a very good signing and he’s certainly been a very good player a few seasons ago. If he helps us get promoted then he pays for himself, tenfold. But I have my doubts that this will happen. I wish him all the best and hope he can kickstart his career and stay fit. I’m just a little puzzled by it all to be honest. This season, I can’t see us going up and we aren’t going down, so I think it’s an unnecessary expense and we should be looking at longer term solutions. 

We will know exactly what our budget is next season....it’ll be based on no fans....and contract renewals (if any) will eat into whatever budget is set.  The budget will flex as players are re-contracted, sold, or brought in.  It is likely to be a much tighter playing budget than normal.

Re salary cap, it’s a squad budget based on (as you say c£14k pw average salary).  U21s wages are excluded, and loaned out players wage contributions can be claimed too.  If we go for a predominately younger squad (Lansbury bucks that though) in future, with lower wages then we ought to be able afford wages for the right players.  Any player under contract at the point the cap comes in, will be fine, only c£14k of their wages will count towards it.

Gonna be interesting times ahead.

3 minutes ago, WarksRobin said:

 

If they don’t do a pun on Murder She Wrote, are they even a media team.

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An injury prone 30 year old , who has played how many games in 5 seasons ? Another BS signing, that goes against the policy of developing talent. 7 out of 8 last signings 30 or over ? It clearly shows, yet again the total BS the club spew, there is no plan, there is no strategy. They make it up day to day and try to sell it as an inspired clever and cunning plan. We look as clueless and misguided as we ever have done in the last 20 years. Will it will need another relegation to make the owner , for the third time, wake up and realise he has yet again got it wrong. Maybe he should just buy Brentford and move it like MK Dons/Wimbledon to Ashton Gate. It would be cheaper and he could at least watch a proper club, with a true strategy with really enjoyable football. He can buy the complete package that he has been unable to find in 20 years and save a fortune. 

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1 minute ago, Psychopomp said:

An injury prone 30 year old , who has played how many games in 5 seasons ? Another BS signing, that goes against the policy of developing talent. 7 out of 8 last signings 30 or over ? It clearly shows, yet again the total BS the club spew, there is no plan, there is no strategy. They make it up day to day and try to sell it as an inspired clever and cunning plan. We look as clueless and misguided as we ever have done in the last 20 years. Will it will need another relegation to make the owner , for the third time, wake up and realise he has yet again got it wrong. Maybe he should just buy Brentford and move it like MK Dons/Wimbledon to Ashton Gate. It would be cheaper and he could at least watch a proper club, with a true strategy with really enjoyable football. He can buy the complete package that he has been unable to find in 20 years and save a fortune. 

To be fair, we’ve been tracking him for a decade

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3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

I hope you’re wrong . Big pressure on Ashton if this goes tits up and we don’t agree a deal with Walsh , fam etc 

Undoubtedly he’s a class player when available and firing but just feels wrong on a few levels to me. Very very happy to be proved wrong and hope I am. 

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Have 1 main memory of him as a player, when he was on loan at Watford he was off the pitch injured, waiting to come back on we're on the counter breaking away and he runs on the pitch to tackle the player despite not being waived back on by the ref

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Steve Lansdown told us we needed a breath of fresh air. We all got excited. We appointed Dean Holden. 

Im not sure anyone would have been particularly upset with Holden if it hadn’t been for SL’s wise words. 

Signing Lansbury is similar in my opinion. No one would complain about us signing him if Ashton hadn’t just pleaded poverty in respect of offering Walsh a contract. 

What is going on?

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4 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Steve Lansdown told us we needed a breath of fresh air. We all got excited. We appointed Dean Holden. 

Im not sure anyone would have been particularly upset with Holden if it hadn’t been for SL’s wise words. 

Signing Lansbury is similar in my opinion. No one would complain about us signing him if Ashton hadn’t just pleaded poverty in respect of offering Walsh a contract. 

What is going on?

In fairness as @Kid in the Riot has pointed out he is here on a short term deal until the end of the season.. financially it is much less of a commitment than signing Walsh on say a 3 or 4 year deal at £10 k a week.. Not defending MA at all mind you as I cannot stand the *** but Lansbury could actually be a very shrewd addition if we can keep him fit.

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