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2 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

That's enough forum for me today. 

He’s embarrassing, thinks Wilson was our last good manager.

Mr “4 seasons to still end up in league one”.

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4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Spot on.

It is painful to watch but it reminds me of the time after GJ took over & we lost to all and sundry.

He had more of the season left but by the end of it had weeded out a lot of the rubbish.

Pearson only has 7 more games to do so, for me who stops featuring in his squad from now on (& is fit) will be illuminating.

Great comparison tbf - can take time 

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8 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

No Bentley ? And whats this love in for Massengo all of a sudden ?

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bentley is replaced next season, and not necessarily because of a club coming in for him.

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10 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

No Bentley ? And whats this love in for Massengo all of a sudden ?

Not all of a sudden for a lot of people - he’s just starting to thrive under a manager who knows how to use and develop him properly.

Massengo will go on to have the best career of anyone who has passed through the club since Andy Cole.  

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6 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

To be fair it would be the case for most clubs if they needed a rebuild outside the PL clubs and parachute payment clubs. The only other way is having one or more £20m assets like Brentford. Otherwise it is going to take a couple of seasons for anyone to rebuild a squad, the question is just how well can you perform while doing so.

My prediction is we will be troubling the bottom 6 rather than the top 6 next season. This mess will take a few seasons to correct. What gets my goat is how Ashton was allowed to sell the top players without any plan B to replace. Don’t expect miracles next season. Ashton the snake has to go as this is his mess.

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9 minutes ago, Superjack said:

"The guy" that gave us the only title in most of our lifetimes and a cup final win to go with it.

You really are a buffoon.

SC lacked any real ‘presence’ whereas when Big Nige oozes plenty. I’d rather have NP beside me in the trenches than SC.

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It's clear these players have mental hang-ups coached into them by the last two managers. For about 2-3 years they've been coached to not take risks at home, so changing the mental block they have is gonna take more then a couple of games to sort out and probably won't happen due to the contract situations come the summer. 

In the last 5-10 home games under Johnson, there were occasions when risk taking was needed, but once we took them our shape completely went and we were exposed massively on the counter attack. This was duly noted by messers Johnson and Holden and they quickly reverted to type with slow turgid football with hardly any shots on goal. 

So what do you need in the pursuit of taking risks I ask? My thoughts would be

1. A trust in the style of play so when it came to taking risks you were confident in yourself and the players around you that they'd be on a similar wavelength (we didn't have a style of play under Johnson/Holden at home.)

2. Ball retention/possession  to build confidence/technical ability and movement off the ball (our ball retention/possession was bad under LJ and horrendous under DH).

3. Confidence in your shape so if the risk taking attacking move breaks down you have a plan to combat it.

Would be great to get other people's opinion on the above.

Think it's ludicrous that people are questioning NP over this, I mean c'mon he's only been here just over a month, he aint a ******* miracle worker

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Just now, Robbored said:

SC lacked any real ‘presence’ whereas when Big Nige oozes plenty. I’d rather have NP beside me in the trenches than SC.

I'd like to see you say that to Cotterill's face.

But let's face it, you don't have the best track record with that.

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He's working with an injury hit squad and the previous two failed head coachs' players and staff. His hands are largely tied.

He's evidently losing patience with some players. We need a massive clearout in the summer to clear the decks and start again.

We are so passive in games. That is largely down to the "Bristol City"  type of player the club goes for.

We are unable to unlock teams at home who are largely well organised and today epitomized this.

For me I can see that we'll have to move on (if we can) Moore, Hunt, Rowe, Mariappa, Lansbury, Baker, Watkins, Paterson, Diedhiou. Semenyo will be sold as will probably Bentley to generate some additional income.

 

 

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1 minute ago, RobintheRed Red said:

Yes i agree i wouldnt be upset to see any of them go did you hear him say he wish he had ten more that put the effort Massengo puts in .

No I didn't, but anyone who doesn't put the effort in should have their wages docked. 

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2 hours ago, bris red said:

Pearson knows the crack, this is a team full of journeyman wasters and I doubt he would have signed even half of them.

Don’t get me wrong I’m sure he backed himself to probably get a little more out of them than he has and is probably disappointed in that respect but he knows the situation, a huge amount of this dross is OOC in the summer and the stage is set perfectly for him to ship out all of the deadwood and really shape the squad full of his players and probably coaching staff aswell. Im confident given the resources in the summer he will turn things around.

Yes great comment on coaching staff they have added nothing lets hope he dumps them for a start .

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24 minutes ago, Robbored said:

SC lacked any real ‘presence’ whereas when Big Nige oozes plenty. I’d rather have NP beside me in the trenches than SC.

Steve Cotterill created an incredible team spirit with a fairly small group of players. He should have been backed in the summer following promotion to The Champ and he made a huge statement when he only named 6 subs at Sheff Weds on the first game of the season.

I grew up in in Cheltenham and what he achieved at Whaddon Road was nothing short of a miracle. 

Believe me, Steve Cotterill has a big presence in the dressing room and all of that L1 promotion winning team speak highly of him. Team spirit and togetherness goes a long way towards success and SC created a fantastic culture that we should have built on.

I think Big Nige is a similar type of character to SC and i really hope he is backed in the summer otherwise we could be having similar conversations in 12 months time.

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25 minutes ago, GasDestroyer said:

My prediction is we will be troubling the bottom 6 rather than the top 6 next season. This mess will take a few seasons to correct. What gets my goat is how Ashton was allowed to sell the top players without any plan B to replace. Don’t expect miracles next season. Ashton the snake has to go as this is his mess.

Bryan - Kelly in squad and Dasilva on loan

Kelly - Dasilva in permanently

Flint - Webster

Webster - Kalas in permanently

Brownhill - Henriksen on loan, whether not good enough or used incorrectly he was replaced on short notice and more than likely would have been replaced with a permanent transfer in the summer, we'd been after Williams before can easily think we'd have gone for him again with LJ still here

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35 minutes ago, Superjack said:

I'd like to see you say that to Cotterill's face.

I met SC several times, decent enough guy, warm and friendly enough but no presence whatsoever.

Not yet met Big Nige - don’t need to to see that he has great presence.

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3 minutes ago, Edgy Red said:

Steve Cotterill created an incredible team spirit with a fairly small group of players. He should have been backed in the summer following promotion to The Champ and he made a huge statement when he only named 6 subs at Sheff Weds on the first game of the season.

I grew up in in Cheltenham and what he achieved at Whaddon Road was nothing short of a miracle. 

Believe me, Steve Cotterill has a big presence in the dressing room and all of that L1 promotion winning team speak highly of him. Team spirit and togetherness goes a long way towards success and SC created a fantastic culture that we should have built on.

I think Big Nige is a similar type of character to SC and i really hope he is backed in the summer otherwise we could be having similar conversations in 12 months time.

Brilliant post mate totally agree with everything your saying i loved the bloke gave us some of the best football and memories that will live forever in my life he should have bern backed but lansdown wasnt ready to spend on players  then and so gave johnson the money of which he bought to many players of the same likr .

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1 hour ago, Rossi the Robin said:

I like how he criticises positively without throwing anyone under the bus - it’s a clever skill only the best man managers can do 

Count the number of times he says the word 'we.' It's telling and the sign of a leader.

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43 minutes ago, Robbored said:

SC lacked any real ‘presence’ whereas when Big Nige oozes plenty. I’d rather have NP beside me in the trenches than SC.

Big difference between comparing NP to SC though, you said you never rated SC so its not comparing the two. You're comparing a former premier league manager who started assembling a premier league winning squad vs a manager whose best season was in league one. Difference is we were a league one club when Cotts joined us and a struggling one, he showed with us and is showing with Shrewsbury he's a great league one manager. You're saying you never rated him with us after he turned us away from relegation, won the JPT trophy and won league one with 99 points? 

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8 minutes ago, Edgy Red said:

Steve Cotterill created an incredible team spirit with a fairly small group of players. He should have been backed in the summer following promotion to The Champ and he made a huge statement when he only named 6 subs at Sheff Weds on the first game of the season.

I grew up in in Cheltenham and what he achieved at Whaddon Road was nothing short of a miracle. 

Believe me, Steve Cotterill has a big presence in the dressing room and all of that L1 promotion winning team speak highly of him. Team spirit and togetherness goes a long way towards success and SC created a fantastic culture that we should have built on.

I think Big Nige is a similar type of character to SC and i really hope he is backed in the summer otherwise we could be having similar conversations in 12 months time.

Believe what you like about SC Edgy. 

Ive never I stood why so many posters still have these SC  ‘love-ins’

The guy just never impressed me despite him getting us out of L1.

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1 minute ago, RobintheRed Red said:

Brilliant post mate totally agree with everything your saying i loved the bloke gave us some of the best football and memories that will live forever in my life he should have bern backed but lansdown wasnt ready to spend on players  then and so gave johnson the money of which he bought to many players of the same like 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Believe what you like about SC Edgy. 

Ive never I stood why so many posters still have these SC  ‘love-ins’

The guy just never impressed me despite him getting us out of L1.

I heard he speaks really highly of you...

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1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said:

Best manager we've had in the last 40 years.

Statistically he is, winning 2 out of out measly 3 trophies. I’ll stand to be corrected on this?. The most enjoyment I’ve ever had in one season that’s for dam ******* sure!

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1 minute ago, Robbored said:

Believe what you like about SC Edgy. 

Ive never I stood why so many posters still have these SC  ‘love-ins’

The guy just never impressed me despite him getting us out of L1.

I'm probably biased towards Steve Cotterill as i met him a couple of times during football trophy presentations when i lived in Cheltenham and his passion for the game is infectious.

His managerial record (granted in L1 and below) is very good and he is one of those managers that creates an "us against them" mentality in a similar way to Neil Warnock.

Who knows how it would have progressed had he been backed, but it still grates me when i see the finances and time Lee Johnson was given, and i'm non anti Lee Johnson either. I just want to see the best for my club 

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