Waconda Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 and no idea where the other is. Terrible bad luck with injuries, yet again ! We just can't seem to sort this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 Signing knackered old has beens is part of the problem 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, frenchred said: Signing knackered old has beens is part of the problem Who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: Who King, James and simpson to name 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 Seems the new guy aint much better than the old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 49 minutes ago, frenchred said: King, James and simpson to name 3 James is only 30 and has been a good signing, King also decent. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 Who needs em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, frenchred said: King, James and simpson to name 3 James is not in the same bracket as King and Simpson 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 I`m presuming the OP is including Bakes which is not really fair IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 Loaning out Bakinson and losing King for injury some days later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GrahamC Posted January 22, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 Not ideal but we won FFS & Nige is confident enough to pair HNM & Scott. The process is working, despite the serial moaners. 19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dan Robin said: Loaning out Bakinson and losing King for injury some days later... Why would we play someone who doesn't want to be here and doesn't work for the team? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, KegCity said: Why would we play someone who doesn't want to be here and doesn't work for the team? Spot on. And Bakinson is crap too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, KegCity said: Why would we play someone who doesn't want to be here and doesn't work for the team? We don't know for sure that he didn't want to be here: it's Nigel's version. Anyway, I'm OK with him going, but the memory of last season's injury crisis is still fresh, so fear we could be in trouble again in case of further injuries. Hopefully we',ll be less unlucky... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dan Robin said: Loaning out Bakinson and losing King for injury some days later... Getting rid of Bakinson was right whoever gets injured. Why keep a player who does not to play for us. Pick one of the young lads who wants to play for the shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Dan Robin said: We don't know for sure that he didn't want to be here: it's Nigel's version. Anyway, I'm OK with him going, but the memory of last season's injury crisis is still fresh, so fear we could be in trouble again in case of further injuries. Hopefully we',ll be less unlucky... Strange thing to make up and he said on Instagram that “the feelings mutual” when a fan told him to leave. So pretty sure we do know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted January 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: I`m presuming the OP is including Bakes which is not really fair IMO. No, not including Baker or Weimann. James King Tanner Atkinson and Simpson MIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted January 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: Getting rid of Bakinson was right whoever gets injured. Why keep a player who does not to play for us. Pick one of the young lads who wants to play for the shirt. Sigh ! More "getting rid" nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted January 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, KegCity said: Why would we play someone who doesn't want to be here and doesn't work for the team? Played him in the last game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 Ah well. Up the City! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Many problems in defence, but even in midfield we don't have so many ''reliable'' options: Scott often has to play RWB because we don't have Tanner, Dasilva as second choice on the right leaves O'Dowda without an alternative on the left (Benarous adapted there?), Williams is Williams (available for a few games in the best case scenario?) and we don't know if James will be 100% fit soon. .................O'Leary .................(Bentley) ............Vyner..Kalas..Pring ..........( - )( - )(Towler) ....Scott...Massengo...James?...O'Dowda (Dasilva)(Williams?)( - )(Benarous) .......................Weimann ........................(Palmer) .............Martin..Semenyo .................(Wells)(Conway) Out now: Baker (probably won't play again this season), Tanner (2 months?), Atkinson (?), Simpson (still a player to consider?), Cundy (untested at this level), King (?). Edited January 23, 2022 by Dan Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 22/01/2022 at 15:43, VT05763 said: Played him in the last game. Doesn’t matter, he’s gone and it has to be better to concentrate on the players who gave it their all yesterday, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted January 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Numero Uno said: Doesn’t matter, he’s gone and it has to be better to concentrate on the players who gave it their all yesterday, OK fine. As long as you know the manager knew he didn't want to be here and played him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 All the frustration with repeating/pronged injuries across so many players.... makes it all the more remarkable the number of games Old Man Martin plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, VT05763 said: OK fine. As long as you know the manager knew he didn't want to be here and played him anyway. Not going to labour the point but it is entirely possible those 14 minutes that Bakinson was given the opportunity to play at Fulham were the straw that broke the camel's back for Nigel Pearson where Tyreeq Bakinson was concerned. It might only be 14 minutes plus another 4-5 injury time but that is irrelevant, Tyreeq is a professional footballer and he is meant to put a shift in..............in all circumstances. Maybe Nige sent him on hoping to see some evidence of the lad wanting to fight his way into a starting berth the following week and, instead, what he saw confirmed to him that the kid had no intention of committing to the plan in the way others have.........Zak Vyner as a good example who has not been playing to the best of his ability, gets dropped on Saturday but then comes on unexpectedly, was ready and willing and had one of his better games this season. That's the attitude "when the going gets tough" that I can only assume Pearson wants to see from his players. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 22/01/2022 at 13:31, VT05763 said: and no idea where the other is. Terrible bad luck with injuries, yet again ! We just can't seem to sort this. Interesting new angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted January 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Not going to labour the point but it is entirely possible those 14 minutes that Bakinson was given the opportunity to play at Fulham were the straw that broke the camel's back for Nigel Pearson where Tyreeq Bakinson was concerned. It might only be 14 minutes plus another 4-5 injury time but that is irrelevant, Tyreeq is a professional footballer and he is meant to put a shift in..............in all circumstances. Maybe Nige sent him on hoping to see some evidence of the lad wanting to fight his way into a starting berth the following week and, instead, what he saw confirmed to him that the kid had no intention of committing to the plan in the way others have.........Zak Vyner as a good example who has not been playing to the best of his ability, gets dropped on Saturday but then comes on unexpectedly, was ready and willing and had one of his better games this season. That's the attitude "when the going gets tough" that I can only assume Pearson wants to see from his players. Bakinson wanted to leave before the Fulham game, which is fine as long as the manager doesn't say that he only plays players who want to be here. You are spot with Vyner though. (not sure he was dropped) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, VT05763 said: OK fine. As long as you know the manager knew he didn't want to be here and played him anyway. 1 hour ago, VT05763 said: Bakinson wanted to leave before the Fulham game, which is fine as long as the manager doesn't say that he only plays players who want to be here. You are spot with Vyner though. (not sure he was dropped) He hasn’t ever said that, in fact he’s said the opposite….(paraphrased) whilst they are employed by the football club, if he wants to / needs to use a player, he will - that is what he’s said, because we run a trim squad. It’s why Kasey Palmer was in the squad for Fulham, like Bakinson. In a period when we were without two, if not all of King, James and Williams, he used Bakinson then. It really doesn’t make a difference whether Tyreeq wanted to leave or not, nor for how long he’s wanted to leave. The fact is until another club come in with an acceptable offer to take him off our hands (loan or perm) within a transfer window, then Nige will pick him if he wants to / needs to, and feels it’s not detrimental to the overall objective. Eventually Ipswich made that offer, he left. We will have to take Nige’s word that it happened quickly. You really are putting too much emphasis on “it was Tyreeq who wanted to leave”. We all get that. We all know contractually he has to agree…that is not the point anyone is arguing over the last few pages. Why do so many of your posts have a little undercurrent of a dig at Nige? What is your beef with him, and what is your reason for that? 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReds Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 hours ago, VT05763 said: OK fine. As long as you know the manager knew he didn't want to be here and played him anyway. Some bizarre posts. Why not just say what you really think of Pearson, or what he is doing wrong as a manager? All of these little digs just come across as pathetic and childish, with no balls to actually come out and say exactly what you are thinking. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 Our awful injury rate in the latter days of Johnson and during Holden’s tenure were very much put down to poor practice within the club, but we seem to be in the same situation now. I thought we had sorted this with significant changes to the medical team, but we seem to be getting the same high level of non-contact muscle injuries. As the question was being asked two or three years ago, can this really be put down just to bad luck? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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