DaveF Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Scott and Semenyo make it but no Han. Rudoni in there @Harry. https://www.skysports.com/football/story-telling/11688/12532024/21-under-21-young-stars-of-the-efl 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Semenyo now 22. A good list…Jacob Greaves is on my watch list…bugger, hoped he’d stay under the radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Can't wait to watch this. Love the Not the Top 20 guys, think they strike a great balance between a personable and entertaining combo but well researched and considered opinions. They explained there are some criteria that players have to hit to be included, including: - no prem loanees - no players with a handful + prem appearences. While they didn't specify anything about foreign top divisions or the Champions League, I'm guessing with HNM making some Champions League and Ligue 1 appearances could be the reason behind his omittance. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DaveF said: Scott and Semenyo make it but no Han. Rudoni in there @Harry. https://www.skysports.com/football/story-telling/11688/12532024/21-under-21-young-stars-of-the-efl 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Semenyo now 22. A good list…Jacob Greaves is on my watch list…bugger, hoped he’d stay under the radar. Thanks DaveF. Yes, I’ve been looking forward to this release. Elek & Maxwell are very good. DaveFevs - yes, I’ve had a sneaky eye on Greaves (I think I may have mentioned him on my big recruitment thread this time last year?). Of that list, I kind of automatically rule out a fair number of them - the likes of Jebbison, Spence etc (essentially at a bigger club than us and highly unlikely to come here) and Keane-Potter, Johnson etc (already well out of our budget I’d guess), but there’s still a good few names there. Rudoni and Kane Wilson would be the most interesting and affordable for me, and both would suit our current system too. Edited February 4, 2022 by Harry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Harry said: Of that list, I kind of automatically rule out a fair number of them - the likes of Jebbison, Spence etc (essentially at a bigger club than us and highly unlikely to come here) and Keane-Potter, Johnson etc (already well out of our budget I’d guess), but there’s still a good few names there. Rudoni and Kane Wilson would be the most interesting and affordable for me, and both would suit our current system too. That’s the basis of my own “summer lists”, i.e. realistic players, hence a bias towards lower-end Champ, Lg1 and Lg2. I think the only player I had that was unrealistic in my list last summer was Lewis O’Brien…that was just wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Two short decent videos from Sky about Semenyo and Scott: https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12531837/21-under-21-antoine-semenyo-of-bristol-city https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12531828/21-under-21-alex-scott-of-bristol-city Double edged sword that their getting noticed, but good for them. I just hope we can build next season around Scott, Semenyo and Massengo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 hours ago, CheddarReds said: Can't wait to watch this. Love the Not the Top 20 guys, think they strike a great balance between a personable and entertaining combo but well researched and considered opinions. They explained there are some criteria that players have to hit to be included, including: - no prem loanees - no players with a handful + prem appearences. While they didn't specify anything about foreign top divisions or the Champions League, I'm guessing with HNM making some Champions League and Ligue 1 appearances could be the reason behind his omittance. Han Noah only ever made 3 sub appearances in the league for Monaco, 2 CL starts. That seems a very small number to exclude him. My hunch is that they have overlooked him, maybe thinking someone with over 70 appearances for us is older than 20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Han Noah only ever made 3 sub appearances in the league for Monaco, 2 CL starts. That seems a very small number to exclude him. My hunch is that they have overlooked him, maybe thinking someone with over 70 appearances for us is older than 20? They did specifically state that even only 3 appearance's at Prem level is too many so it wouldn't surprise me if they excluded him even due to those handful of Ligue 1 and CL appearances. But yes you make a good point, it feels like he's been around for a while and should be older than he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That’s the basis of my own “summer lists”, i.e. realistic players, hence a bias towards lower-end Champ, Lg1 and Lg2. I think the only player I had that was unrealistic in my list last summer was Lewis O’Brien…that was just wishful thinking. Hell yeah. I love O’Brien. I’d go as far as to say he’s in the top 3 best players in the championship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Alex Scott really is a potential elite player for me. I've not seen many young English players with his level of technical ability let a lone City players. I know he has the Grealish comparisons but he reminds me a lot more of Bernardo Silva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, MATT BCFC said: Alex Scott really is a potential elite player for me. I've not seen many young English players with his level of technical ability let a lone City players. I know he has the Grealish comparisons but he reminds me a lot more of Bernardo Silva. The couple of times I’ve seen him for Eng u19s (not whole matches) he looks to be as good (if not better) than his peers….all of whom with the odd exception are attached to PL clubs. Its not like a 17 year old (as he was at the start of the season) came into an established team as the token youngster and was helped along the way. He’s come into a team going through a difficult rebuild where he’s excelled and influenced team performances. Absolute effing nugget on our hands. I haven’t been this excited about a youngster since Tammy and he wasn’t ours. Even HNM didn’t have the sane impact as Alex Scott. Am I going OTT? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The couple of times I’ve seen him for Eng u19s (not whole matches) he looks to be as good (if not better) than his peers….all of whom with the odd exception are attached to PL clubs. Its not like a 17 year old (as he was at the start of the season) came into an established team as the token youngster and was helped along the way. He’s come into a team going through a difficult rebuild where he’s excelled and influenced team performances. Absolute effing nugget on our hands. I haven’t been this excited about a youngster since Tammy and he wasn’t ours. Even HNM didn’t have the sane impact as Alex Scott. Am I going OTT? Don't think you are! He has like a playstation player first touch, can use both feet, good at set plays, good positional awareness, can score goals, great composure, good vision and seems to have an excellent attitude. He's recently (alongside Massengo to be fair) been controlling games as well which I've not seen at this level since Kalvin Phillips. I really hope we can keep him for a couple of seasons and build a team around him. Could really see us being serious promotion candidates then. Edited February 4, 2022 by MATT BCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The couple of times I’ve seen him for Eng u19s (not whole matches) he looks to be as good (if not better) than his peers….all of whom with the odd exception are attached to PL clubs. Its not like a 17 year old (as he was at the start of the season) came into an established team as the token youngster and was helped along the way. He’s come into a team going through a difficult rebuild where he’s excelled and influenced team performances. Absolute effing nugget on our hands. I haven’t been this excited about a youngster since Tammy and he wasn’t ours. Even HNM didn’t have the sane impact as Alex Scott. Am I going OTT? Also worth a mention that there's some other really really highly rated players in that England under 19s team. Tottenham fans been saying Dane Scarlett is going to be a world class striker. Aaron Ramsey (not that one) and Carney Chukwuemeka from Villa meant to be 2 of the most promising youngsters in Europe. So to even get in the squad let alone look one of the best players is very impressive! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ExiledAjax Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: Am I going OTT? No. Aside - did we sign that Acey kid as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 hours ago, CheddarReds said: Can't wait to watch this. Love the Not the Top 20 guys, think they strike a great balance between a personable and entertaining combo but well researched and considered opinions. They explained there are some criteria that players have to hit to be included, including: - no prem loanees - no players with a handful + prem appearences. While they didn't specify anything about foreign top divisions or the Champions League, I'm guessing with HNM making some Champions League and Ligue 1 appearances could be the reason behind his omittance. The other criteria for exclusion was players who've moved for 'big' money, which is probably why Massengo isn't there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Scott is the youngest player on the entire list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: No. Aside - did we sign that Acey kid as well? Hasn’t been announced. Some on here might have an inside track, unlike me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Scott is the youngest player on the entire list. Makes me realise even more how lucky we are to have him. Massive props to tinnion and the academy for bringing him in and through to the first team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinéadB Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 The reason that Massengo wasn't on the list was because no "big money moves" counted either. So that rules him out (if he were to be picked that is). It's under 21 but only by the end of the year so anyone born in January 2000 basically get into this years but only just Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, SinéadB said: The reason that Massengo wasn't on the list was because no "big money moves" counted either. So that rules him out (if he were to be picked that is). It's under 21 but only by the end of the year so anyone born in January 2000 basically get into this years but only just Semenyo….by 7 days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 hours ago, GrahamC said: Han Noah only ever made 3 sub appearances in the league for Monaco, 2 CL starts. That seems a very small number to exclude him. My hunch is that they have overlooked him, maybe thinking someone with over 70 appearances for us is older than 20? They wouldn’t overlook anyone. They are the epitome of thorough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Fine by me...........HNM Needs less publicity , not more? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyed Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 5 hours ago, And Its Smith said: They wouldn’t overlook anyone. They are the epitome of thorough Indeed.. it will be the large potential transfer fee we will pay (if bonuses are triggered) that excluded him from the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinéadB Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Davefevs said: Semenyo….by 7 days! I was delighted he got in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 13 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: No. Aside - did we sign that Acey kid as well? 12 hours ago, Davefevs said: Hasn’t been announced. Some on here might have an inside track, unlike me. @Jerseybean posted last Sunday that he was told he had signed from the Guernsey end. Do we announce 17 year olds on the OS? He also mentioned that there was a young striker, Sol Solomon, on trial on the mainland and wandered if that was us too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Really enjoyed watching that. Suspect 3 of my summer long-lost will be unrealistic now, as everyone will be in for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpole Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Port Said Red said: @Jerseybean posted last Sunday that he was told he had signed from the Guernsey end. Do we announce 17 year olds on the OS? He also mentioned that there was a young striker, Sol Solomon, on trial on the mainland and wandered if that was us too? Seems to be a lot of good players coming from the Channel Islands of late. Edited February 5, 2022 by redpole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpole Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 04/02/2022 at 09:56, Davefevs said: Semenyo now 22. A good list…Jacob Greaves is on my watch list…bugger, hoped he’d stay under the radar. I liked the look of the Gillingham CB is it Jack Tucker who I believe was also on your list 6ft 4 CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, redpole said: I liked the look of the Gillingham CB is it Jack Tucker who I believe was also on your list 6ft 4 CB. On Harry’s list…I’ve not seen enough / much of him…his stats were decent last season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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