Gillies Downs Leeds Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Left Carlisle by mutual consent. They have really been struggling of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Was a really bad time to support the club when he was manager, the Holden debacle felt almost identical. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Millen and Holden..............what a Double Dose of Direness?. Both completely out of their depth as managers, but probably competent assistants, and most definitely wonderful humans? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 David Holdsworth who was DoF has also gone. When Millen was hired there was a fair bit of grumbling from their fans that it was a case of Holdsworth appointing one of his mates as they played together at Watford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Jackett also fired by Orient, I suppose the humiliation at losing last night was too much for the owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClapper Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Jackett also fired by Orient, I suppose the humiliation at losing last night was too much for the owner Unusual for a manager to be sacked after reaching a cup final! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Jackett also fired by Orient, I suppose the humiliation at losing last night was too much for the owner “No Jackett Required” 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClapper Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Paul Simpson appointed until the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 I don’t think Millen was anywhere as near as bad in BS3 as many on here clearly do, but having never managed at that level, with his last spell in Sweden being underwhelming & he’s about as much of a Southener as me, he was always a very odd choice for Carlisle. 1 hour ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Jackett also fired by Orient, I suppose the humiliation at losing last night was too much for the owner 2 points from the last 30 available, certainly a great time to play them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Didn't realise he was there! Now replaced with another former assistant of ours. Jamie McAllisters job next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Club statement….https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2022/february/club-statement-23-feb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Can you remember how Millen used to setup the team? He was a 3-5-2 man, no idea what Holden was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: Can you remember how Millen used to setup the team? He was a 3-5-2 man, no idea what Holden was. Badly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyClapper said: Paul Simpson appointed until the end of the season. Hope he does well and keeps them in the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Simpson is a bit of a cult hero up there so it'll be a popular appointment with the fans. He left us at the same time that the job was last vacant and there were a lot of them wanting him to get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Badly. In his first stint he was fine, second stint he went down hill fast. I cut him quite a bit of slack, but he turned out bad, Holden I have no idea what he was aiming for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: “No Jackett Required” Any manager whose team loses at home to the Gas should be relieved of his duties as soon as the final whistle blows IMHO? ha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, HappyClapper said: Paul Simpson appointed until the end of the season. I was surprised he wasn't appointed when they were looking for a new manager only a few months ago. He was born in Carlisle, played for Carlisle and subsequently managed Carlisle out of the Conference League and then in to League One when he was last there ten years or so ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, GrahamC said: I don’t think Millen was anywhere as near as bad in BS3 as many on here clearly do There’s a lot of convenient and lazy re-writing of history that goes on to suit agendas on OTIB, and Millen is far from being alone in suffering from that. SOD is another, and there are more besides. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: Can you remember how Millen used to setup the team? He was a 3-5-2 man, no idea what Holden was. He was a nice man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Garlandinho Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, CliftonCliff said: There’s a lot of convenient and lazy re-writing of history that goes on to suit agendas on OTIB, and Millen is far from being alone in suffering from that. SOD is another, and there are more besides. Disagree, no agenda but both were awful. SOD gave us some brief hope at the start of 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Left Carlisle by mutual consent. They have really been struggling of late. Not a surprise with Millen as their Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, O'Garlandinho said: Disagree, no agenda but both were awful. SOD gave us some brief hope at the start of 2013. You have to take account of the circumstances under which he was operating. It was actually a situation not altogether unlike the one now confronting NP, in fact. The occupants of the boardroom had once again steered us into a position whereby they were obliged to place him under extremely tight constraints. (You know, usual scenario: recent history of appallingly incompetent player recruitment; bloated squad full of overpaid mediocrity; blind panic about the state of the club’s finances, etc.) SOD implemented their instructions to the letter and spent next to nothing, though he still managed to bring in one or two astute signings. The team struggled (surprise, surprise), the same incumbents in the boardroom collectively soiled themselves at the looming prospect of L2, SOD was predictably sacked and SC was appointed with the scope to sign pretty much whoever he wanted. SOD was quietly responsible for starting a rebuild and putting in place a number of measures that contributed to subsequent success, for which he is only rarely given any credit. Hence my reference to the convenient and frequently inaccurate rewriting of history. Happens all the time on this forum. Never let the facts get in the way of a keenly held antipathy towards a former manager, 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 He won or drew 9 out of 18 games from his appointment until now - seems a bit harsh to sack him - certain Bristol City managers have survived without being sacked with much worse ‘result runs’ - I had a chat with Jamie McAllister at the game last night - I asked him about the Sunderland tenure with LJ - again, he thought their sackings were very harsh - certain clubs need to realise their standings in English football and realign their expectations accordingly ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 11 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Left Carlisle by mutual consent. They have really been struggling of late. Have they? They’ve won or drawn 50% of their recent games ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Have they? They’ve won or drawn 50% of their recent games ... 1 point from the last 18 available, 3 from the last 24. Millen started well but they have struggled recently, I agree with your central point that 6 or 8 games is not long enough to judge but they clearly lost faith & with Oldham flying under Sheridan are shitting themselves that they are going to be non league. On the other subject, I think the LJ & Jamie Mac sackings were madness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Have they? They’ve won or drawn 50% of their recent games ... Their last 10 results (most recent first) are: L D L L L L D D W W So to say they've been struggling of late isn't really unfair. Those 2 W's above are 2 of only 6 in their 31 games they've played this year. They're in real danger of dropping out of the football league for only the second time in their entire history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 17 hours ago, CliftonCliff said: There’s a lot of convenient and lazy re-writing of history that goes on to suit agendas on OTIB, and Millen is far from being alone in suffering from that. SOD is another, and there are more besides. Nonsense. Millen's teams were dire, I can recall us playing it long to Nicky Maynard, utterly tactical lunacy and dreadful to watch. A terrible appointment. SO'D came in when we were in a mess, and at least recruited some top notch players (Flint, Pack, JET) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 18 hours ago, CliftonCliff said: There’s a lot of convenient and lazy re-writing of history that goes on to suit agendas on OTIB, and Millen is far from being alone in suffering from that. SOD is another, and there are more besides. I think the problem with Millen was that he was appointed after a false dawn. With Coppell's appointment, I think many of us felt the club was about to kick on. Him leaving and an assistant taking over was bewildering and a complete climb down from the club's position when appointing Coppell. That was what made his appointment so underwhelming for many. The Holden situation was similar in that regard, as again I think many of us hoped the club was about to kick on rather than settle for mediocrity. Agreed on SO'D though - his transfer legacy has aged very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think the problem with Millen was that he was appointed after a false dawn. With Coppell's appointment, I think many of us felt the club was about to kick on. Him leaving and an assistant taking over was bewildering and a complete climb down from the club's position when appointing Coppell. That was what made his appointment so underwhelming for many. The Holden situation was similar in that regard, as again I think many of us hoped the club was about to kick on rather than settle for mediocrity. Agreed on SO'D though - his transfer legacy has aged very well. SO'D's downfall (obviously results notwithstanding) wasn't helped by his approach in interviews/media. In some ways similar to Pearson - brutal, honest and to the point. SO'D needs to take a lot of credit for laying the foundations for Cotts' team. I hope, the board have learned their lessons in that respect, and give Pearson the time to finish the project (unless we start on a downward trajectory at an alarming rate obviously). I think that most supporters are content in seeing the small steps of progress - young players emerging, a system being implemented, and the overpaid/unwanted being moved out, so long as there is that continual progress still. The football is getting better, results are better, whereas the SO'D team was more disjointed and had poorer players in it. That resulted in poorer performances, and results. If Pearson does leave before his 3 year plan, then if we're savvy in his replacement, the next man could do a Cotts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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