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1 minute ago, Robbored said:

That’s my point Brizzle.

Exactly and as we were in the lower leagues, it was totally appropriate for our position.  

After seeing that Terry Cooper interview with him in tears of pride after us beating Bolton, I'll never doubt the value of that competition to him, especially when you look at the honours he enjoyed with Leeds.  That was us rising from the ashes of 1982 and there was nothing embarrassing about seeing the club beginning to find its way back to a respectable place again.  Whilst I'd never want to see us in that competition again, it was just what we needed at that time to give the club a huge lift and some self-belief.

Everyone to their own though. 

10 minutes ago, BigTone said:

There are many stupid people in this world

There certainly are BT and I guess all us City fans come into that category too.  How else can we keep coming back every year with renewed hope that this year could be the one when deep down, we all know what the reality with this club will be   

4 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Really?………

I used to find that being in it was a really embarrassing reflection on our club. It is and always has been a trophy for the also rans.

I’m delighted that City are no longer in it.

For teams in the lower leagues, it was great if you got to the later rounds.  Although crowds in the early rounds were crap, it got a lot more serious when a trip to the twin towers started to loom ever bigger.  

Let's be honest, that was the only way lower league clubs were going to get to Wembley in those days and I view those times with real fondness.  Ok, there was that element of standing on the Wembley terraces and looking out onto the  pitch, and wishing you were actually at the FA or League Cup Final, rather than the Freight Rover Trophy, but I certainly wouldn't have missed it, or the Hereford semi's  .......... that said, there's nothing that would have persuaded me to stump up £454 quid to by a ringer shirt purportedly associated with it either!  

4 hours ago, kmpowell said:

I doubt there will be any buyers remorse unless they stumble across this thread and see they've very likely bought a ringer.

Bidding history below. It looks like 5 people on the final day went up agasint each other, with the eventual winner coming in at around £183, and manually upping their bid several times against the others...

Bidder	Bid amount	Bid time
Highest bidder5***tFeedback score (115)	£454.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:57:59pm BST
h***iFeedback score (1789)	£444.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:58:04pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.5***tFeedback score (115)	£301.01	25 Apr 2024 at 7:57:59pm BST
9***7Feedback score (4286)	£296.01	25 Apr 2024 at 7:58:03pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.5***tFeedback score (115)	£203.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:57:59pm BST
n***zFeedback score (61)	£198.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:57:21pm BST
n***zFeedback score (61)	£188.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:57:06pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.5***tFeedback score (115)	£183.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:57:59pm BST
n***zFeedback score (61)	£178.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:55:35pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.n***zFeedback score (61)	£175.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:55:35pm BST
4***iFeedback score (73)	£170.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:57:09pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.n***zFeedback score (61)	£156.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:55:35pm BST
4***iFeedback score (73)	£151.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:51:50pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.4***iFeedback score (73)	£147.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:51:50pm BST
n***zFeedback score (61)	£145.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:55:27pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.n***zFeedback score (61)	£132.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:55:27pm BST
4***iFeedback score (73)	£130.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:51:04pm BST
n***zFeedback score (61)	£128.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:55:14pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.4***iFeedback score (73)	£122.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:51:04pm BST
4***3Feedback score (28)	£120.00	18 Apr 2024 at 1:01:17pm BST
4***iFeedback score (73)	£120.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:50:50pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.4***iFeedback score (73)	£113.00	25 Apr 2024 at 7:50:50pm BST
4***3Feedback score (28)	£111.00	18 Apr 2024 at 11:41:45am BST
r***1Feedback score (235)	£110.00	18 Apr 2024 at 10:19:52am BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.r***1Feedback score (235)	£107.00	18 Apr 2024 at 10:19:52am BST
4***3Feedback score (28)	£105.00	18 Apr 2024 at 8:55:00am BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.4***3Feedback score (28)	£103.00	18 Apr 2024 at 8:55:00am BST
r***1Feedback score (235)	£101.00	17 Apr 2024 at 10:33:12pm BST
4***3Feedback score (28)	£100.00	17 Apr 2024 at 4:38:23pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.4***3Feedback score (28)	£97.00	17 Apr 2024 at 4:38:23pm BST
9***o (private)	£95.00	16 Apr 2024 at 1:09:59am BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.9***o (private)	£93.00	16 Apr 2024 at 1:09:59am BST
6***aFeedback score (159)	£91.00	15 Apr 2024 at 8:55:40pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.6***aFeedback score (159)	£87.00	15 Apr 2024 at 8:55:40pm BST
9***o (private)	£85.00	16 Apr 2024 at 1:09:50am BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.6***aFeedback score (159)	£62.00	15 Apr 2024 at 8:55:40pm BST
2***kFeedback score (920)	£60.00	15 Apr 2024 at 8:26:25pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.2***kFeedback score (920)	£51.00	15 Apr 2024 at 8:26:25pm BST
5***pFeedback score (210)	£50.00	15 Apr 2024 at 8:26:09pm BST
This is an automatic (proxy) bid placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.5***pFeedback score (210)	£49.99	15 Apr 2024 at 8:26:09pm BST
Starting price	£49.99	15 Apr 2024 at 7:58:07pm BST

Interesting.  

Looks like that winning bidder waited until the last minute of the auction and slammed a massive bid in.  All the bids after that were automatically getting blown out the water by that huge winning bid.  Makes you wonder what their top limit was?!

47 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Have I read the bids right? £454 for Mickey Mouse cup shirt? Surely it’s a wind up…………..

Obviously some people put a lot more value on the 'Mickey Mouse Cup' than you do RR  

4 hours ago, kmpowell said:

Such a shame that somebody out there, IMO, has been ripped off by a false description.

Just to show my thinking that this shirt is from the 1984/85 season, not the 1985/86 season, I dug out the team photos from the 2x seasons.

Note the position of the B.C 82 badge. In the 1984/85 season the B.C. 82 is stamped inline with the T in Hirerite (just like the bay shirt). In 1985/86 the B.C. 82 was stamped inline with the outside edge of the last E in Hirerite.

1984/85

1985/86

 

 

 

 

Yes, completely makes sense what you say.

I notice the seller amended their listing just after the discussion on here. They changed   the description to say it was a match worn shirt, but wasn’t actually worn in the Final.

I can’t imagine anybody bidding anything like that price for any old shirt of that era though, so either someone put on an early auto bid before the listing was amended, or they haven’t read the description well enough.

5 hours ago, Carolina Reaper said:

Insane final price, if bid genuine some people got more money than sense

Agreed!

4 hours ago, Carolina Reaper said:

Insane final price, if bid genuine some people got more money than sense

I was watching it at the end and it certainly looked like a bit of bidding fever going on.

There had to be at least two people who were desperate to get it, to be able to push the price that high.  

Wonder if there’s someone thinking ‘what the hell have I done’, when they woke up this morning.  Being super-competitive, or prone to getting bidding fever are the two most dangerous things in an auction.

4 hours ago, phantom said:

I was chatting to a friend about this shirt and she swears blind he gave me the same replica shirt about 10 years ago with lots of other old memorabilia, the problem being I have no idea what I did with it all

You’ve got a nice little mini nest egg there if you manage to find it then Phants!!!

15 hours ago, Galley is our king said:

Also goes to show they also must have realised it was complete bollocks!

Thought us fans would suck it up...

 

Well, we could easily name a few on here that did.

On 17/04/2024 at 14:15, Carolina Reaper said:

Price is fair at the moment for what appears to be genuine 1986 hirerite shirt but its clearly not one match worn at wembley
the actual shirt had freight rover trophy and wembley 1986 either side of sponsor and number 4 keith curle wore long sleeves that day

hate to see fellow fans ripped off

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186394531839

Well, that certainly caused some interest and a bit of a feeding frenzy.  Final price of £454.00!!!

20 minutes ago, eardun said:

I don’t have an issue with it either. What would be good though is if as some point City could launch a site where you could make your seat available to purchase by other fans when you can’t attend (as some other clubs do). Fans won’t always have a friend or family member who can go to the match concerned so the current forwarding option could not be used - a ticket exchange site would widen the pool of people who could take the seat. 

That single match sale of vacant ST seats is the perfect solution.  That would involve some extra effort from the club to make that possible though.  At present, they seem to prefer putting their effort into pointing a finger at non-attendees, even though the club have already been paid for that seat.

The only time these vacant seats really become a problem is on the rare occasions of a sell-out match.

Seems like a lot of noise from the club about nothing.

2 hours ago, Markthehorn said:

Suppose offside could just mean offside and maybe the semi automated system will mean we won’t need to see silly human drawn lines which obviously cause confusion and controversy.

What would be the ideal handball rule too ?

We've seen all sorts given and not given.

How can we make it easier  to apply when most of the time it's subjective and a lottery.
 

All this really could have been sorted out by those in charge before VAR came in.

As you say, it is a lottery and for all the guidelines, the officials often interpret stuff so differently.

The offside situation is getting silly now though, with the matter of millimetres being measured.  It's like those songs about 'Aguerro, your teeth are offside', or 'Ozil, your eyes are offside'!  Joking aside, nobody gains an advantage with a couple of mm, so should it really come down to such small fractions?   One of the  better suggestions I've heard is to say there needs to be clear daylight between the last defender and the attacker, maybe measured at the waist, being the centre of the body.  

Ok, that certainly gives the advantage to the attacking team, but the defending team may be less likely to be constantly playing the offside trap, because if they judge it wrong, that really hands a significant advantage to the attacking team.  We already see advantages given to keepers in any body contact at present, so giving advantages in the game aren't unprecedented.   Don't know how difficult that type of offside decision would be for a lino to judge, but it must already be difficult enough to judge these fractions at present.

The problem with VAR is, it seems to be the first point of reference, rather than leaving it to the officials to make a judgement first and leave it to them to ask for VAR if they aren't certain.   It just feels like VAR is becoming a massive hindrance to football at present and arguably, causes more controversy than before it existed.

1 hour ago, maxjak said:

100% agree...........Coventry were denied a superb victory by a toenail.  The offside law was never meant to rely upon such miniscule margins, there is no advantage for the forward being a toe in front of the perceived line of defence?.  VAR is ruining football, and I just wish someone would have the good grace to scrap it.   It is NOT the job of the Video Refs in their bunker to constantly interfere in the ongoing game?  It is their job to see,  and intervene when major errors occur that are clearly wrong and have been missed by the referee in charge.  If VAR is to remain, which i DO not want, but if it does..............it needs a massive overhaul, and consultation with ex players and officials, to point out the inconsistencies and contradictions which are slowly strangling our once great game.  In a nutshell.....I phecking hate VAR, and Everything about it.   PS . Man U's Anthony was IMO an embarrassing clown

Couldn’t agree more Max.  

In theory, if VAR was employed properly, it could possibly be a valuable tool, just like goal-line technology undoubtedly is.  

Sadly, the combination of crap offside rules and the completely flawed employment of VAR above the match officials, has actually made it a blight on the game, rather than a benefit.

Higher end football needs to sort itself out, before it actually destroys itself.

1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said:

And specifically Jon Lansdown created a big differential in the central to wing block pricing about 4 years ago.

Good ol Jon!

I know it’s a delicate balancing act with supply and demand and income for the club, but the amount of gaps in the Lansdown particularly, tells me they’re priced too high.  

Could find even more gaps appearing there once potd people start moving to the SS..

11 minutes ago, phantom said:

That's is why I didn't specify who wasn't turning up, I do know %'s of non attendance but it is not for me to share this numbers

People want cheaper POTD tickets, these will be available again next season

Those who that wanted to move into the South Stand but now can't, on the basis that the vast majority could have renewed there would have been next to no availability anyway

We’ll have to see how it pans out.  

The prices for all stands are obviously set by the club, so they certainly aren’t forced to price the Lansdown and Dolman so high.  

Would be interesting to compare our current income to the sell ‘em cheap and stack ‘em high pricing structure at clubs like Bradford City, who apparently manage to average around 18,000.

1 hour ago, Dredd said:

Today's the day then for all those waiting till the last minute. Reminder that the deadline is 12 not end of the day!

Good heads-up and wonder how many are thinking it’s midnight tonight.  

I did mine a bit after midnigt this morning, as I don’t trust them to not have a website crash today.

Happy St George’s day folks!

Proud to be English and Bristolian

4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

It WILL happen. Football is traditionally reactive rather than proactive, doesn't really think things through and only learns it's lesson the hard way (i.e. no bums on seats and feet on terraces). This has always been the way. The game has really lost balance in terms of being corporate but what the corporates do not seem to understand is when Johnny on the Street has had enough because he/she is spending a hell of a lot of money to watch a product that is dull and stops going (and so do his/her mates) then a day out in a half empty stadium will be a pretty shite experience. The billionaires and corporates then take notice and pull out just as fast as they arrived, spending their dough on the next trendy thing, and it's back to a cheaper financial model and finding a way to get Johnny to come back.

Let’s hope so NU, as I’m running out of years left for it to happen!!!

8 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Are you okay?

Apparently not.

The mere mention of Nigel Pearson in a positive tone seems to be a massive trigger!

5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Football attendances are cyclical. Numbers will reduce in time, it's just a case of when not if, and at that point football will have to reinvent itself again based on the negative feedback before numbers go back up to recent/current attendance levels. Not only do you have the issues outlined above you now have managers who think that entertaining fans is for mugs and that their principles are not the most important thing, they are the ONLY important thing. They will get their answer in time because that's what has always happened.

Plenty of people were going to football pre-1980's and took a break (when attendances dropped like a stone) before giving it a go again in the 90's. The last major reset we had was the back pass rule in 1992 because people had a guts full watching teams like Liverpool make going back to their keeper an art form when leading 1-0.

3 points for a win and the play off’s were a couple of other notables that boosted entertainment and increased attendances.

At the moment, there’s loads of TV money sloshing around and clubs seem focussed on that and don’t appear to worry about providing entertainment.  If that TV money dries up, you can bet your bottom dollar that clubs’ attention will turn back to pleasing their fans and getting them through the turnstiles again.

14 hours ago, redkev said:

With the upturn in results over the recent weeks and some slightly better displays ( much better yesterday ) are some fans starting to see a future under manning . 
I have always maintained under both managers with a fully fit squad ( which isn’t often with city ) there is a team in there somewhere - The consistency of performances is my biggest concern when good we’re more than decent but when we’re poor we’re piss poor 

Definitely green shoots.  I wasn’t at all impressed when he first came in and immediately imposed a different playing style we didn’t have the players for.  At that point, he looked like a one trick pony.

He’s now shown he’s pragmatic and has adapted the tactics to something more suited to our current squad.  Although we still get the occasional stinker thrown in, he’s starting to play to our strengths and getting more consistency in our performances and results.  

Although we’re all well aware of some deficiencies in our squad, if we can strengthen over the summer, I’m certainly more optimistic that he can improve us than I was when he arrived.

Credit to him for showing some resiliance and self-belief and hope it continues.

11 hours ago, Cole Not Gas said:

Do what? What would have impressed you in any manager having to take over a Pearson (basket) case 6 months ago? The summer will go well because the club (ie owners & senior, respected managers will back Liam) so you have no reason to have a bad feeling. And what the hell do you mean by regression? Since when, since Cotts or since Johnson? There has been zero regression since Pearson lef; the players are happier, the cup run, we beat or draw with top teams, we smash poor teams etc etc - sometimes the negativity of you (and others) posts is simply baffling. What regression can you possibly mean?

I recently tried to have a sensible convo with you on here, in the hope that you actually possessed an element of common sense.

Won’t happen again after seeing this moronic, attention-seeking post.

4 minutes ago, maxjak said:

Frigging Man U..........i hate them with Enormous relish.... and i don't mean chutney Ha!   Their luck will run out in the Final, I hoping for 6-0?

I’ve got no love for Man City, but after seeing that today, I hope they totally humiliate United in the final.

Absolutely gutted for Coventry.  They can hold their heads high, but to go out like that is so cruel and another example of technology killing the spirit of football.

21 minutes ago, petehinton said:

I’d be amazed if it’s not in the loan deal that we pay a fine per each game he’s not on the bench. Theres no other explanation imo

Sounds very plausible.  

You just get the feeling that he could be the last person left on the bench and we’d choose to play with 10 men, rather than bring him on!

13 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I'm guessing he was known to be a real prospect from his academy days, the time at Westerlo could have been for many reasons . It may have been a punt . 
When he came in he was unknown to everyone , now he's been looked at he obviously isn't pressing for a start , but I wonder if it's just saving face by having him on the bench or just no one else to be there. I saw a Tweet saying yesterday was the first time we didn't have an academy player on the bench and we still didn't fill it. 
He does give an option at least.

Makes you think a bit more scouting was needed with this one, as it didn’t seem to take very long to make a decision on him once he arrived.

Must have had something about him to interest Rangers and Man City, but it’s looking like he could be one of those really promising kids, who doesn’t carry on progressing in the adult game.

Hope for his sake he gets back on track, but can’t imagine it being with us.