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  3. Emiliano Sala

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    45 minutes ago, downendcity said:

    My understanding is that news of Nantes' "demand" was released to the media by Cardiff. 

    Don't know about you, but if I owed someone a sizeable sum of money, the last thing I would want is for news about it going to all and sundry. Makes you wonder why Cardiff would release this information, other than it creates just the impact it has?

    Yes, seems bizarre. 

  4. Emiliano Sala

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    5 minutes ago, downendcity said:

    Since Diana's death there seems to be a mood whereby with every celebrity death, for many there is the need to be seen to be mourning and then taking some sort of offence or umbrage with/at anyone or  that does not respond in a similar fashion. I caught a bit of Talksport this morning, responding to this news and Jim White described Nantes as insensitive, by demanding the first instalment of the transfer fee and he almost demanded that his guests felt the same.

    While Sala's accident and death are tragic, and in particular the timing, unfortunately life does go on. Have Cardiff stopped paying their tax, wages and suppliers due to the tragedy, or is it just the transfer fee ( for the purchase of a  player that now gives them no benefit or value)? As others have commented, Cardiff and Nantes are businesses, each with their own financial commitments. I presume that both clubs would have made plans around the Sala transfer - Cardiff, in terms of arranging finance to be available to meet the scheduled payments due to the selling club  and Nantes, in terms of sell on fee payments due and cash flow that the first instalment  would enable them to cater for.

    At what point would it not be insensitive for Nantes to ask for monies contractual due to them? Presumably Cardiff would have organised the finances to meet the fee prior to the transfer,if so  then I struggle to see any reason why payment cannot easily be made - unless ( apologies for my insensitive cynicism) they are looking to find a way of avoiding payment.  Suggestions that Cardiff are looking at the "small print of the sale contract", if true, is perhaps the most distasteful and insensitive aspect of this. 

     

     

     

    I guess when they have found/retrieved his body from the sea, at least. Or at least when he is legally declared dead. I’m not disputing that Cardiff owe any money but the timing isn’t great. 

    The news media are probably spinning this story too but it could’ve been sorted without any of this hysteria. 

     

  6. Emiliano Sala

    in Football Chat

    Posted

    "It is understood Nantes are threatening legal action if they do not receive a payment within 10 days. BBC have attempted to speak to Nantes for a comment."

    A bit insensitive, seeing that the recovery operation is still ongoing. 

  7. Emiliano Sala

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    Posted

    1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

    Journalist for The Mail mate

    Both articles in Mail (Wait for predictable reponses !) :laugh:

    They seem to have sourced their information 

    Any mention of where the pilot is, who should have flown the plane?

  8. Emiliano Sala

    in Football Chat

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

    Interesting.....

     

     

    By Peter Allen

    Friday 31st January 2019

    Football agent Willie McKay told Emiliano Sala he wanted to make 'lots of money' from £15m deal


    British football agent Willie McKay told Emiliano Sala he wanted to make 'a lot of money' from his transfer before arranging his tragic flight to Cardiff, a leaked email has revealed. 

    In an extraordinary insight into the world of football transfers, McKay told the 28-year-old that he'd invented interest from rival clubs to get the deal with Cardiff City done. 

    McKay, 59, introduced himself to Sala on January 6, days before agreeing the £15 million transfer from French club Nantes by coldly saying he was not interested in the player as a person, adding: 'It's not sentiment, just business.'

    In a leaked email to French publication L'Equipe, the agent wrote: 'Emiliano, my name is Willie McKay. We are not interested in your personal belongings; finances, holidays, babysitting, it's not our business.'

    Listing multi-million pounds deals involving players moving from French clubs to top English sides including Chelsea and Arsenal, Mr McKay wrote: 'We make transfers! More than 600 until today, from Didier Drogba, to Anelka, Payet, Seri, Anguissa.


    Willie McKay, wrote to Sala on January 6 introducing himself 

    'Let us introduce you to the way we operate and how we came to this Cardiff City saga. We work for clubs in France, and for players who want to be transferred to England.

    'As far as you are concerned, we have talked to all the clubs, including Manchester, Chelsea, Liverpool. We think you could end up in such clubs.

    'We approached Nantes, as we do with many players in other clubs, to obtain the mandate of sale. We are not preventing you from working with another agent, but most players are very satisfied with our mediation.

    'We do not say 'we are like a father to a son to our players'. No, if you had not been a footballer, these people would not be interested in you.

    'In the end they are only interested in the money. What we all want a lot of, of course. That's why we like to work with just the clubs. No sentiment, we're just doing business.'

    As mystery surrounds what happened to the flight.

    Referring specifically to the Cardiff City deal, Mr McKay wrote: 'My experience says: if you do not go for the Premier League now, you will regret it.

    'It's been said that Cardiff does not interest you. But that is probably our mistake, because we 'leaked' in the media that other clubs like West Ham and Everton want you. Just to stimulate the interest in you.

    'That is how we work and that may be misinterpreted by the player. But without that 'buzz' nobody would know you. Because, honestly, nobody follows the French competition [Ligue 1].'

    In an interview with l'Equipe, Mr McKay admitted: 'If I had never asked Nantes for a mandate to negotiate about Sala's transfer, he would still be among us'.

    Referring to his entire family – including his wife and three sons – McKay admits that 'the past eight days have been a nightmare for us.'

    Mr McKay admits that thehighly experienced pilot he chose to fly Sala from France to Wales drafted in a replacement airman for the job – with disastrous consequences.

    Details of the arrangement emerged following the discovery of two cushions from the plane in which Sala is believed to have died following a crash into the English Channel.


    Mr Ibbotson, a boiler engineer and part-time pilot, told a friend he was 'a bit rusty' with the instruments of the 35-year-old aircraft and it did not have the licence to carry paying passengers.


    Sala (pictured) texted his old Nantes teammates before the flight to say he was scared. He wrote: "If in an hour and a half there is no news of me, I don¿t know if they¿ll send anyone to look for me because you won¿t find me, but you'll know... Daddy, I'm so scared!"


    Mr McKay and his son Mark helped negotiate Sala's transfer to Cardiff, and then heard that Sala wanted to spend a day in Nantes seeing club officials and former teammates.

    Cardiff offered him a commercial flight for the trip, but Mr McKay offered him a private plane 'for free'.

    Mr McKay's choice as pilot was David Henderson, a 60-year-old who had flown light planes around the world, including the Piper Alpha PA-46 due to be used for the trip.

    But – for still unknown reasons – Mr Henderson drafted in another British pilot called David Ibbotson, 59.

    'Do you want to spend a weekend in Nantes?', Mr Henderson told Mr Ibbotson, a part-time pilot who had admitted to friends on Facebook a few days earlier that he was a 'bit rusty' at flying.

    Mr Ibboston, who was known to have financial problems, is said to have told Mr Henderson that he had lost his credit card.

    This led to Mr Henderson having to pay for Mr Ibbotson's hotel in France, and for the flight itself.

    Mr Henderson's details were accordingly given to officials at Nantes-Atlantique airport, leading to initial fears that he had been piloting the doomed flight.

    In fact it was Mr Ibbotson who took control of the plane, and aborted three attempted take offs in terrible weather.

    An hour into the flight, Mr Ibbotson told air traffic control he was reducing altitude from 5,000 to 2,300 feet over the Channel Islands.

    It later emerged Cardiff's record signing had expressed fears for his life in messages sent to close friends.

    In a WhatsApp voice note, he said in Spanish: 'I'm on a plane that looks like it's going to fall apart.'

    Aviation experts said the chartered single-engine aircraft should not have been risking the flight in icy conditions.

     

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    I don't know what to say. That poor boy.

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