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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:
Apparently attacking intent only comes if the opposition allow that. It’s not about “us”, according to Hoggy (who sings from the same hymn sheet as Manning).
That’s a slightly facetious comment, but with a large element of truth about it.
That’s what we have, a team / game-plan based on what the opposition allow us, rather than us imposing our style / identity.
I can’t wait!
We've seen that when we play teams with a slightly more open formation, teams trying to take the game to us in a fluid way (often because they are needing points to cement their promotion credentials) we can exploit those gaps and score goals.
But, yer, your right. We never dictate play. We cannot take the front foot unless the opposition gives it to us.
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42 minutes ago, JBFC II said:
Anyone willing to own up?
Matty 'snake' Taylor
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1 minute ago, TV Tom said:
I didn’t mean the administration part of things but how far Torquay have slid down the Pyramid and that slide might not be over yet
I think thry'll have just about enough in them to survive this season. They'd be nowhere near relegation without the point deduction.
Taunton Town however, I'm not so sure. It doesn’t help that they have to play home games away.
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3 hours ago, Harvey86 said:
My in laws are brum fans so naturally I’d love them to go down. I can’t believe they’re in the equation based off how good they looked at AG earlier in the season- bet they’re not chanting ‘USA’ now!
US-eless more like
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18 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:
A club like Luton don't have a wealthy benefactor as far as I'm aware. However football at Chamoionship seems to require it.
Both David Wilkinson (chairman) and Paul Ballantyne (director) are multimillionaires. There's not a billionaire owner there though and they probably have the poorest board in the PL.
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24 minutes ago, E.G.Red said:
Sammy Szmodics anyone? Could certainly do with his goals
With hindsight, he should've been given more time to develop. I got to hold my hands up and admit that I didn't see him adapting to the Championship at the time. He looked lost.
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4 hours ago, TV Tom said:
And to think there were many on here that said he wasn’t good enough and compared him to a “headless chicken” !!!
Not sure that was the complaint. He always looked like he added something to the squad, but in his first full games for us he struggled to score and seemed lacking in confidence to shoot.
Some thought he might make a midfielder but not a striker, others that it was a confidence thing and he'd come good. Which proved correct.
Oh what we'd give for a robust frontman able to hold off defenders, now.
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1 hour ago, Pip King said:
These cost saving measures are getting a bit silly...
False beard and wig to avoid embarrassment.
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Players all develop at different rates - and some that look world-beaters at 17 look like panel beaters at 20. (and vice versa of course). Let's remember Vardy might've been off form against us, but he's been a top pro yet in his early 20s he got turned down by Rotherham and Crewe whilst playing non-league.
Equally guys who looked like they'd set the world on fire ended up with damp squibs of careers. Best player (unplayable!) at my school never got beyond the Gas under -20s.
It happens. As a scout, you shouldn't get caught up in the hype of young prospects. You need to cooly assess.
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28 minutes ago, GrahamC said:
Certainly not uninterested or disinterested today.
Important winning goal & looked very lively when he came on.
140th League goal of his career.
I'd go as far as to say he was interested - in scoring. As tbf he always is.
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51 minutes ago, spudski said:
At this part of the season where teams are fighting against relegation, then these are the tough games.
Again...playing against teams going for promotion.
The easiest games should in theory be against teams like ourselves that have nothing to play for apart from pride.
Hopefully the Rotherham players will already be mentally on holiday when we meet them. Would like to see us take advantage.
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1 hour ago, Super said:
Apart from Rotherham there are no easy games especially this stage of the season.
This is it. And it may well be harder playing clubs fighting for their lives at this stage of the season than it is to play clubs thinking about promotion but nervous as to whether they will atain it.
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6 hours ago, Jerseybean said:
Plymouth fans of a certain age will always associate this fixture with Argyle beating us 4-0 at Home Park to secure promotion from the old third division in 1986. Attendance was officially announced at 19,900 reflecting the safety certificate in place at the time, which was half the actual capacity (when the ground was 90 per cent terracing), but the ground was packed. Easily 30,000 plus in attendance for a third tier fixture in the 1980s which must have been very rare. https://youtu.be/K8FmDpNTBwI
Under the lights, at Ashton Gate, back in September we won 4-1, highlights: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/city-men-news/extended-highlights-bristol-city-4-1-plymouth-argyle/
We have sold our maximum allocation of 1,739 tickets for the trip to Home Park, so it could be quite a noisy affair.
Like many of today’s modern sides, Argyle started out in a small way and in fact were an off-shoot of an amateur set-up known as Argyle Athletic Club. Various versions have been told of their origin, but the most feasible is that in 1886 a few keen former college pupils and public school boys met at the Borough Arms to discuss the formation of an athletic club in the Mutley area of Plymouth. Soccer was to be part of the activities from the start in those days when rugby was the main sport in the “Three Towns”, which consisted of Plymouth, Devonport and Stonehouse.
The name ‘Argyle’ is unusual to say the least, so controversy surrounds how the name was adopted. One school of thought says that it derived from a local street named Argyle Terrace where the club’s committee used to meet in The Argyle Hotel. Another says that the club was named Argyle in honour of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders who were stationed at the time in Plymouth and whose football skills were much admired. Or was it that ‘Argyll’ and ‘Argyle’ were fashionable names at the time due to Queen Victoria’s’ fascination with all things Scottish?
Plymouth Argyle have embraced two different badges through their history. One is in fact the shield in the arms of the city and county borough’s council, on record at the Heralds’ College. It shows the saltire of St Andrew, to whom the mother church of Plymouth is dedicated. The four towers represent fortifications.
The more familiar badge is the one that depicts the Mayflower which sailed from Plymouth to America in 1620, carrying the early settling Pilgrims to the New World, and also giving rise to the illustrious nickname.
Onto more recent times. They signed Spanish defender Julio Pleguezuelo. The 26-year-old agreed a two-year deal after leaving Dutch top-flight side FC Twente and is the first Spanish player to ever join the Pilgrims, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65978721
In January they added Tottenham defender Ashley Phillips on loan until the end of the season. They also signed Leeds United midfielder Darko Gyabi on loan until the end of the season. The 19-year-old worked with new Argyle head coach Ian Foster when he was in charge of the England Under-20s side. He has played five times for Leeds since moving to the club from Manchester City in the summer of 2022. He is however set to miss the rest of the season with a groin injury and has returned to parent club Leeds United. He made 10 appearances for the Championship strugglers after joining on loan in January.
Also signed Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Alfie Devine on loan until the end of the season. The 19-year-old spent the first half of the campaign at Port Vale where he scored three goals in 26 appearances. They also signed Lino Sousa on loan after the England Under-19s left-back joined Aston Villa from Arsenal.
In December they lost their gaffer Steven Schumacher to Stoke City, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67753445, they named former England Under-20 manager Ian Foster as their new head coach, in January. The ex-Liverpool academy player, 47, was working as Steven Gerrard's number two at Al-Ettifaq, in Saudi Arabia.
Head-to-head record:
Won: 27
Lost: 23
Drawn: 13
Sports Mole preview: https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/plymouth-argyle/preview/preview-plymouth-vs-bristol-city-prediction-team-news-lineups_540101.html?cQx=NN&newsnow
On Good Friday they lost 2-1 away at Norwich, with both the Canaries goals coming from corners. They currently occupy 20th place with 41 points.
Referee is Keith Stroud. He will be assisted by Matthew Smith and Robert Hyde; David Rock is the fourth official.
Played for both teams:
Kieran Agard, Paul Anderson, Ian Baird, Tyreeq Bakinson, Andre Blackman, Yannick Bolasie, Joe Bryan, Richard Davis, Keith Fear, Arnold Garita, Rene Gilmartin, Trevor Jacobs, Joe Lennox, Guy Madjo, Sean McCarthy, Alan Miller, Kevin Nugent, Karleigh Osborne, Scott Partridge, Forbes Phillipson-Masters, Bobby Reid, Gary Sawyer, Steven Sessegnon, Enoch Showunmi, Phil Starbuck, Ryan Taylor, Robbie Turner, Zak Vyner and David Burnside.
Well known fans include:
- Michael Foot - Former politician.
- Josh Widdicombe - Comedian.
- Jeff Brazier - TV presenter.
- Evander Holyfield - Heavyweight boxing legend.
In April Argyle’s return to the second tier for the first time since 2010 was confirmed, https://youtu.be/jybZxpN06gE
They were crowned League One champions after coming from behind to win at Port Vale on the final day of the season.
Guide to Home Park: https://footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/league-one/home-park-plymouth-argyle.html
We last faced them in the league in 2010 when they beat us 3-2 with a 90th minute winner, we have played them twice in the League Cup since.
Our 2010 team was:
Our bench:
We played them in a pre-season friendly in July 2022. A late goal from Nahki Wells was enough for us claim victory on a day of sizzling sunshine at Home Park: https://youtu.be/PZfqdGnsvPI?si=ytJoeoZcDYQtLm59
Plymouth facts
Unbelievably, 50 years ago the Pilgrims managed to beat Pele and his Santos side. March 14, 1973, saw almost 40,000 fans crowd both inside and outside of Home Park to watch the spectacle between Plymouth Argyle and Santos FC - who were taking part in a European tour that brought them down to the South West. The friendly match resulted in a 3-2 win to Argyle, the three goals by the home side being scored by Derek Rickard, Mike Dowling and Jimmy Hinch. While Pele and Edu clawed back two, it wasn’t enough to avoid defeat.
Plymouth has always caught the attention of prominent Naval powers, but in 1815 it was a Naval power that caught the attention of Plymouth. After Napoleon Bonaparte’s defeat at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815, he surrendered himself and was held on the HMS Bellerophon. After nine days of sailing, the boat arrived first in Brixham but then moved to Plymouth Sound where he was temporarily held. The news spread and for 10 days the Sound became an absolute hotbed, attracting tourists not just from the South West but all across the country. In one day, 8000 people took to the water in small boats hoping to get a better look at this notorious enemy.
The bakery that supplied the Pilgrims is still open. Jacka Bakery and Delicatessen on the Barbican is Britain's oldest commercially working bakery, dating all the way back to 1597. In the over 400 years it has seen 20 reigning monarchs and is said to have supplied the Pilgrim Fathers with biscuits on their maiden Mayflower voyage of discovery.
On the topic of old buildings, Plymouth’s Orthodox Jewish Synagogue dates back to 1762. It holds the European record for over 250 years of uninterrupted use. The history behind the building is incredible, having survived not only a hostile religious climate against Jews, but also being one of just two buildings that survived the German bombing on Catherine Street. It also narrowly escaped being literally wiped off the map by Patrick Abercrombie, a town planner who was responsible for rebuilding demolished post-war buildings. The humble building still operates today and is open to pre-booked visitors practising and not.
The local coastline has attracted some interesting aquatic animals. One of the most popular was Snorkel the Loggerhead turtle, which washed up on a Cornish Shore in 1990. Snorkel lived in the National Marine Aquarium for 15 years and reached her late 20s until she died as a result of health complications. Mad Jack’ is one of the city’s slightly less well known aquatic characters. The lobster was caught by a Plymouth fishing crew back in 2008 and weighed in at 12lb 9oz (5.7kg), this monster was thought to be somewhere between 50 and 100 years old and also became a resident at the Aquarium. But perhaps the most daunting is the barrel jellyfish that washed up on the Turnchapel Wharf slipway. These are the UK’s largest species of jellyfish, weighing up to 35kg (a staggering 5.5 stone) - thankfully their size is the only terrifying thing about them, as their stings are relatively harmless to humans.
The original fort of the Citadel was built in the 1590s under Sir Francis Drake’s advice, allowing for the strategic defence of the city’s waters. But years later, the civil war which drove Parliament into a brutal battle against the monarchy put the city in the bad books of King Charles II as we, unfortunately, picked the losing side. The Royal Citadel was then built by Bernard De Gomme under the King’s directions, but its strange design incorporated the ability for the guns to turn on Plymouth folk if they ever made the choice to revolt against the monarchy again.
Plymouth Gin is arguably some of the finest in the country, although the locals love of it may very well be to their detriment judging by how the Barbican looks on a Saturday night. Plymouth Gin is distilled in Plymouth’s Black Friars Distillery, which is the oldest working gin distillery in England - operating since 1793. Not only this, but the building was originally a monastery built in 1431 which housed some of the Pilgrim Fathers on their final night in England.
Plymouth Tea opened Devon’s first tea plantation, on the banks of the River Tavy. It’s only the second plantation in England. Also, somehow, Plymouth managed to nab the title of oldest pasty recipe from their pasty-loving neighbours. Discovered within one of the Plymouth Borough account books, the nation’s oldest pasty recipe dating way back to 1510.
Plymouth sweets are a global phenomenon too, gum made in Plymouth’s Wrigley factory is enjoyed in over 180 countries globally. The factory produces a jaw-dropping three million packets of gum per day.
Janner was originally an 18th and early 19th century seafarer's term of contempt for non-nautical people who lived in ports (literally "Johns"). In other places this has died out, but in Plymouth it's still used and adopted as a badge of pride.
Although the club nickname themselves "the Pilgrims" no Pilgrim, or any other passenger on the Mayflower, came from Plymouth. One, Francis Eaton, did come from Bristol however.
Pubs
James Street Vaults, 24 James Street, Plymouth, PL4 6EQ, https://www.jsvplymouth.co.uk Almost engulfed by the ever expanding university campus, this is a predominantly student pub. Up to four ales can be available, with Dartmoor Jail Ale and Legend, and St Austell Proper Job supplementing the Tribute. Butcombe Bitter, Brains SA Gold and Caledonia Golden XPA also feature occasionally.
Britannia – a Wetherspoons outlet around 10 minutes from the ground by foot – welcomes travelling supporters.
Cherry Tree pub on Ham Drive, PL2 3NH, https://www.craftunionpubs.com/cherry-tree-pub-pennycross?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=homepage
Hyde Park Social Club, 5 St Gabriel’s Avenue, PL3 4JQ is also 10 to 15 minutes from the stadium (but in the opposite direction) also welcomes away fans. https://www.hpscplymouth.co.uk
Further away from the ground try one of these three: https://thegoodpubguide.co.uk/?s=&gpg=Plymouth&pub_category=2-worth-a-visit
Let’s be loud and proud and make it a six point Easter at the Theatre of Greens.
Janners are ways claiming the Mayflower set off from Plymouth, but its home port and the beginning of the voyage was actually Southampton, it merely restocked in Plymouth and it also stopped in the Azores before leaving European territory.
55 minutes ago, pongo88 said:Does anyone know how Evander Holyfield became a Plymouth supporter?
On a different note HMS Bellerophon, which you mentioned, has an interesting history. The logbooks have survived and give an insight into life on board in the 1800s. There were several ex slaves on board who had escaped from slavery by swimming to the ship. In those days anyone who put one foot onboard one of His Majesty’s ships instantly became a free man. One of the ex slaves was a white American who had been captured whilst sailing off the coast of Africa. The logbooks show a level of meritocracy that didn’t exist outside of the navy. No mere sailor could rise to become an officer but they could rise to the top jobs below officer class. For example, black ex slaves became “top men”. This was one of the most difficult and dangerous jobs as they had to climb to to top of the masts in all weathers, storm or no storm, to manage the sails
Enough of the history - City to win 2-0
Top men - much admired by Geoff Twentyman
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7 hours ago, TV Tom said:
See you in the penny-come-quick
Union Street is more pricey these days....
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"I think the current owner and management of Bristol City is great!" signed Stan Leavesdown.
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2 hours ago, Fredford89 said:
Let the Pearson Obsession die if anything think he’s laid down the foundations as he did when he last left Leicester
Twine was the big January signing he starts we beat Leicester
get off Pearsons parsnip and give Manning a chance
Maybe the Leicester fans who were booing their side and angrily gesturing towards the manager and players for the sin of only being in second place in the league might qualify as more fickle?
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1 minute ago, Robbored said:
We are great even when we’re being a little one eyed……..…..
Is Andrew Kitchen taking over from Trevor Kettle and Kieth Stroud?
I don't think Stroud is that bad generally. He had one atrocious match officiating at AG and supporters seem to remember him from that. His more recent efforts were decent.
It seems a bit of a coincidence that both Kitchen and Kettle are poor however. If we get a ref called Toaster coming here, watch out!
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3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:
Especially if he could learn to square the ball instead of shooting into the side netting, something Sykes was also guilty of.
I was happy that he was able to take the ball into their final third at a time when Leicester were upping the pressure on us.
If he was a natural goal scorer he'd play up front rather than where he does.
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13 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:
Of course Leicester fans or some are praising the call not to award a penalty but they should know about soft stuff given they have won 12 in the League this season which must be approaching modern record territory at this level.
Unsurpriding really as their number 10 and 18 threw themselves to the turf as soon as they felt the slightest contact.
The ref wasn't great but at least he waved away their theatrics.
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12 hours ago, Red Ferret said:
He's a very good goalkeeper. Some of his short passes out to our defenders give me a bit of the fear though
We were lucky to get away with the one thst was intercepted by Vardy. That was a gift he'd bury 8 times out of 10.
Tbh if they'd scored then Max would've gone from hero to zero.
But my view is - hey - if every aspect of his game was perfect he'd not be playing in the Championship. He had a generally very good game.
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Apparently Mr Kitchen is aware of the obscure FA rule that says Hamza Choudhury is allowed to come flying in two footed from behind on any player, but if anyone in a red shirt does the same it's a foul.
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13 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:
Better balance today but worries me that Manning said after it was to counter Leicester (the 3 at back). It worked Manning, keep it this way, possibly like to see Sykes ahead of Tanner on the right. Albeit McCrorie was a threat when he came on.
Yes a much improved McCrorie performance from his damp squib appearances recently. Makes me think he's back fully fit again and ready to contribute.
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I'd keep Conway. He's destined to score more goals than Sam. However the decision is out of our hands.
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Just now, Cowshed said:
You have just agreed with me. I didn't state defacing a flag is a hate crime, I stated it can be because while we do not have not law that make desecrating a flag a crime, we have law that prohibit hostility aimed towards groups.
Hence in my post I added this ? No this does not fall under the above. Was it insulting? Yes. This act caused insult. A response that was predictable.
Well spotted. I did agree with you, once you changed your posts from saying "flag defacement is a hate crime" to "flag defacement can be a hate crime".
But as for the second bit of your response, the law isn't there to protect the delicate sensibilities of snowflakes hurt because a near invisible and non-traditional feature of one particular football kit has changed colour. It not only is not near the threshold of behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace, it isn't in the same county, the same country or even the same frigging continent as that threshold.
Not sure how a tribute to the training colours of the England 1966 kit can be insulting, but then I'm not a led-by-the-nose to be offended by whatever culture war bullshit is being peddled by right-wing media sort of guy.
I don't give a shit if Nike keep it, change it back, or drop the flag altogether in a tribute to all England kits pre-2002.
I'm more offended by the shirt's price and I don't generally like Nike sportswear anyway.
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Tighter defence is what that shows. The Dickie effect.