Kid in the Riot

Williams is going to be a big old stand. New EE same height as Dolman.

A JR is entirely possible, but I just don't see the motive. There have hardly been any objections to a revamped AG, literally a handful online and no opposition groups formed like in the case of Sainsburys (at the Mem and AG) and AV. To those concerned about a revamped AG, put it like this, do you honestly think we couldn't sustain C'ship football with a 26,500 capacity, exec boxes, new conference facilites, bars, museum, club shop etc? As others have said, a new stadium could become a reality further down the line but right now that shot is not on the board and we are in desperate need of upgrading AG otherwise we will continue to slide on and off the pitch, I believe.

No surprise. It'll get approved next week, wait 6 weeks to ensure no JR comes in then get building/demolishing early next year. Probably March time.

Bit more complicated than that though isn't it. When you say "the club" you actually mean a group of landowners, not BCFC. None of us are privy to the make up of ownership of that land and who would be leasing what out. All we have it Geoff65's word on the subject as he spoke to SL... I'm not saying you or Geoff are wrong but precise details were never made clear publicly as far as I recall... You can throw Bristol Sport into the mix as well - how do you know profits wouldn't have gone into that pot? I'm pretty sure they would've in fact...

Fair enough. In that case the 80% figure sounds less believable! Though I'm sure a hotel was not proposed as part of the AV planning application? It could've come at a later stage of course...

Just to add to that, AV proposed 5,500 sq m of conference/exhibition facilities. AG as existing has 1,500 sq m (Dolman) and as part of the new Wedlocks and Williams Stand will add a further 4,000 sq m of space...so will propose exactly the same as AV. 18 exec boxes proposed at AG, 24 at AV...

The point is though Arn as the likes of Nick J pointed out at the time, it was never clarified how much of the revenue generated at AV would be going to the club. A drive thru restaurant was proposed at AV for example, and there's no way McDonalds/KFC/Burger King would've been giving their profits made to City! Therefore, the fact there is no drive thru restaurant proposed as part of the AG redevelopment is no loss whatsoever. For the record AV proposed ONE shop, a drive thru, conference facilities and NOT leisure facilities. Personally, the 80% figure quoted sounds believable to me.

Redeveloping AG into minimum 26.5k stadium (more with safe standing) vs the g*s plans that currently consist of no valid consent to redevelop their own ground and the UWE stadium going t1ts up? What on earth are you going on about? Both clubs AIN'T going to get new grounds, time to face reality.

Yeah, course it will Nick. Just like you said you'd seen the JR and didn't think it had any merit! Oh and also Nick, they can appeal the JR decision so this ain't gonna be sorted by "early next year". Muppet.

As I said earlier in this thread...Sainsbury's ARE getting restless and they simply have not been building new stores recently. I know someone who represents Sainsburys as a consultant and they have confirmed this to me. This new stadium ain't happening I tell ya! And what with them having no existing consent at the Mem they are MANY YEARS away from a new/redeveloped stadium. In the "stadium race" we have just taken a strong lead, how the tables have turned...

Yes they expired in 2011. School boy error...

I'm talking some way down the line... You're right, Sainsbury's will get restless and also there is added complications at UWE. Just not happening IMO.

I just can't see this happening now. You needs lots of "ducks in a row" to pull off a major development (well 2, Saino's and the stadium) like this and the years of delay is going to take a massive toll. I predict they'll do as us, and redevelop their existing facilities.

WRONG. The EE will be demolished in March 2014 if we get the go ahead. It has to, so the replacement stand is ready for the start of the 2015 season.

There is little realistic prospect of building work starting at UWE next year, let alone this year!

Totally agree with what Stockhausen says above, get on and build the thing.

As someone who was there, this doesn't ring true - anyone else agree/disagree??

Er Dag and Red are one point off L 2 play offs and Crawley 13th L1. Not "virtual/near non league" c'mon... Bristol Rovers...now they ARE virtual/near non league...

What you have to remember with Shithausen is that he may get on ok with SOD but other than that he has zilch contacts at the club and doesn't get on with Steve Lansdown.

Hang on, didn't the gappers go on the pitch after they scored??

Absolutely crazy, as Graham says above don't suppose they could actually go and catch some real crooks?

I very much doubt the dawn raids were for people who simply ran on the pitch! Roverzzz fans were lobbing seats at the end and fighting with police as they came into the EE so it will likely be those who have been nicked this morning.