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BUT just to play devils advocate, those people who voted for the Nats, and beleive me I aint a fan of theirs, feared for THEIR futures with all the Communist, equally racist, and zenophobic actions of the ANC, and other more extreme organizations. My grandparents lived in SA from 56 to 91 when they died. No fans of the boere, they feared the alternative. Go on laugh, BUT, remember what happened in the Belgian Congo when the Belgiques bailed out, the MAU Mau in Kenya, and the Algerian civil War..Rhodesians although holding views nowhere as extreme or racist, were worried by precisely the same thing. Leaving the issue of land reform (which EVERYBODY of every colour knew had to be dealt with), the mere fact you could make a business up from nothing then then lose it to simple politics of envy, disguised as idealogy.....kinda makes your approach different. Uniquely among the ANC (and all other so called "liberation" parties too) Mandiba understood the simple fact that white people in Southern Africa from Kenya, Zambia, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana & South Africa never regard themselves as colonists, but Africans. Pity too many ****wits like Hain and his verminous kind never made the same connection. As soon as this points gets through, then things change. Mandiba knew this, which is why the Afrikaaner bigots of the Nats, the AWB and all fellow travellers feared him above all others, and why they really smeared him so badly. Yes he was a legally convicted terrorist (he did after all admit to being one) but he was unique in that he used violence as a tool, not aan idealogy..which is why the stupid Boere should have released him 10 years before they under De Klerk courageously did.

Actually being an African myself, I'll reverse that arguement. If Terrorists shoot down civil airliners down with SAM's then machine gun the survivors, do you expect Rhodesian (or South African, as both countries suffered from brutal attacks on civilians, it wasnt all one sided) not to go and capture kill the terrs? We had to do so, and the terrs/freedom fighters (depending on your point of view) purposely hid among the refugees, the women the kids, the schools, the hospitals...one raid the Rhodesians carried out killed over 2000 terrorists, and about 400 civilians. some 100 tons of weapons and munitions were captured. I beleive the liberal press accused us of planting the evidence. 100 tons of munions planted? Using Alouette III's? Hmmmmmmmm.. Mandela admitted being a terrorist, planting bombs. He was honest. His "comrades" werent/arent/will never be. As for the IRA arguement, thats a mixture of terrorism/patriotism/gangsterism..and they just bombed maimed murdered people to keep their little patch safe from security forces intervention...

No faulting the effort 2nd half, the actual product is somewhat lacking and ROveram are a cheating bunch of northern cnuts...

Excellent, more booty for my esteemed donk...sorry camel SOD....

Can I have the prize mister, please, please, please, pretty please??? Mr O Droscoll appointed em all, please please please can I have the prize?

Not if the ***** only win 10 games in 11 months...

about 9.5k once the ST holders who aint there are removed...

Or throwing it out of the window when we go 4-0 down again...

And havin the meeting in a local hostelry or club for professional finishing..

sideways moves for our little darlin's bless their ickle cotton socks...

9 ****** wins in eleven months suggest he was overdue the boot....next.

He'll be on the mat over this..

It didnt cost that useless see you next Tuesday O Drosscoll his job, and hes left City in an even worse mess than he found, itsself ****** monumental...

Sadly you are right. There is currently a high number of whites being murdered and just as under apartheid the perpetrators are being protected by government. Some black politicians are openly saying Indians & other Asians should be kicked out, and Julius Maleme is openly saying whites should be murdered if they resist dispossession. None of Mandelas well known humility, tolerance, honesty, spirit of compromise, colourblindness is currently showing amongst the pigs in the (corrupt) trough ANC national, provincial & municipality political leadership. Most black people have gained nothing from freedom. The comrades of the ANC have.. Whites unless extremely wealthy, or self employed, are at the bottom of the economic pond. The police are worse than they were under apartheid, and more corrupt. The countries various communities are zenophobic..just ask the regugees from Zim who have flooded in, since Mugabes blatant attempt to hang onto power. Mbeki and now Zuma have singularly failed to lead on the issue of Mugabe, something Mandela would not have done. Indeed the Old Crocodile (Mugabe) is known to hate, and be jealous of Mandiba's skills, tolerance and popularity. I hope to God this does not continue, or there will be a blood bath in Southern Africa, not just South Africa.

Be allright for me like...

only counts if they win their replay...

what number are the sheepshaggin redbirds then??

Thank **** City won..The only way is up. A tricky banana skin under O Drosscoll has been body swerved. Well done lads, now lets build on the positives, and work on the negatives..COYR

Come of for ***** sake...not ****** Carey....

**** it, City aint got a clue about keeping a clean sheet..

no you aint

woulda taken Elliott off rather than Taylor..

We gotta put one of these chances away as soon as ****** possible COYR!!!!!!!

**** me had a let off then..come on lads sort it out..

Devils Advocate,Daaaaaaaaarset??? :laugh: