Red Exile

4 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said:

I'm afraid to like your post incase they see the connection

who exactly is 'they'??? This is a well developed forum for sharing views on Bristol City - supportive or critical. It's developed over years. What's new is a flood of recently activated accounts, all with WUM tendencies.

The number of new or rarely participating posters with 'Board' supportive views is laughable - liking each others posts is an especially entertaining feature of their engagement. Haven't the club's media team got anything better to do? The comms are - and have been for a some time - abysmal.

The whole thing feels to me like the sort of amateur night fiasco we more usually associate with goings on at our traditional rivals.

You sack one of the more respected managers in the game, who has delivered - or is in the process of delivering - on a tough brief - and enjoys huge popularity amongst your fan base. But then you can't get your story straight on why you've done it, you have no one credible to front up and take responsibility, you don't have anyone to replace him and can't convincingly explain the process or criteria for finding the replacement. Which you must anticipate will be a problem because you've got form in this area and it's happened many times before.

It's pathetic. Now I've often scratched my head on discovering someone perfectly rational and respectable is a Rovers supporter, asking myself how they can possibly want to be associated with such tinpot losers. I have a horrible creeping feeling that anyone looking from the outside at the Lansdown's Bristol City would conclude that we're not much better.

Well I have an affection for Tins....but good grief!...that's all guff. Have we stepped back 20 years?

2 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

The weirdest bit is them writing the questions and awful scripted responses, recording it, editing it, then posting it and thinking "there we go, that'll make things better, job done"

This 100% - and after all that that was the best they had...

...a guess - Dave Barton said 'these are the questions that need to be answered'....

...answers came there none I'm afraid.

Who on earth thinks we have a squad to match that of the top clubs in this league?

To think that that man runs an institution I care deeply about! It's embarrassing.

4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Was Gary Johnson a ‘ yes ‘ man?

No but GJ owed him everything for the opportunity. I met them together at events on several occasions, they seemed friends.

Good thread! I started late 60s and I'd agree with others that Joe Jordan's was a gutting departure - seemed that we were set up to thrive and if we had done it would have been a good time to do so.

The departure of Alan Dicks felt inevitable, after a brilliant innings. Of the others I felt the greatest sorrow at TC, at GJ and at Cotts because in each case it really felt the need of an era in the club's history and because they had put effort into building a really good relationship with all of us. Good times.

I was a far more distant follower in the later 90s - young kids - came back in the Wilson days and got the whole family along for GJ. I hugely fell out of love with the Lansdown's running of the club in the Millen/McInnes/SOD era. Never recovered my faith in them. I was very vocal on here about Millen - had a different user name then - and there were plenty of Lansdown loyalists around then to shout down any critique, perhaps the same folk who lined up behind LJ as he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory time after time.

Millen was right up there with Tinnion and Holden - totally incompatible with any ambition to build and progress. Incomprehensible. Hoping that things will different this time, not hugely optimistic that they will!

Nigel Pearson's departure feels different to all of those. Both a good man shown the door after a lot of painfully hard work and a depressing expression of what our football club has become. The sooner Lansdown goes the better.

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Point of accuracy, Hull are owned by the Turkish Simon Cowell not a faceless investment fund.

Allam family did try to change name yeah and that was when things went South however they initially saved them from bankruptcy and handed them on in a solid state.

Indeed. I’m not at all sure that I buy the current ownership or that it will end well…but it is certainly entertaining! My in-laws aren’t fearful. More inclined to gently taunt me for our crapness!

5 minutes ago, Fjmcity said:

But in that time hull have had owners who have tried desperately to change the name of the club and now owned by some faceless investment fund. Is it a molecule of success at any cost?

real investment is coming from hedge funds, despot regimes and the Americans - I don’t want this at my club 

 

 

 

But we’re owned by a faceless family living in tax exile. The head of which has had 20 years, achieved almost nothing of footballing note and has clearly lost interest. We’re hostages to a huge ego. Let go! 

…to be honest I really don’t care what the fearful Lansdown loyalists think any more. You’ve had your way and will doubtless continue to have it until the moment Steve finally sells up. Enjoy the mediocrity!

13 minutes ago, Fjmcity said:

But to who? Any success I can point to in the last 10 years of takeovers comes with a huge ethical headache, one I don’t fancy squaring with myself. There’s no wealthy Bristolians wondering forward ready to invest.

and where were we 20 years before lansdown?

im not an apologist, just very careful what I might wish for. What we all know is that this melts away with a team playing well, we are no where near the levels of Man U where it is rotten to the core and beyond repair. Get the appointment right and everyone forgets, that is on the lansdowns to get right and I really hope they do

 

20 years on even the most loyal of Lansdown loyalists must recognise that at some point SL will sell up. We don’t have to know who the buyer will be to hope that they might have a bit more ambition. The club I know best other than us is Hull. My in-laws club. Always a bit of a roller coaster there but boy has it been an entertaining ride for them since that day in May 15 years ago. Spells in the Prem, relegation and promotion and the cup final. They’re on their third owner and going again. And that’s in Hull - not Bristol. And us? -  struggling to compete once again. It’s a tedious rinse and repeat. Time for a change. 

9 minutes ago, Fjmcity said:

...people have to understand that you will never fully know the truth at each end of the spectrum to truly know that middle part

...what I fear is the lansdowns have got themselves in a position where they can no longer do right for doing wrong and could be hounded out and it will be out of the frying pan into the fire..

 

 

After 20 plus years I think we know quite a lot about the way Steve Lansdown works. And can make an educated guess that what comes next is unlikely to be part of a coherent strategy that builds solid foundations for a push up the league. Let's not have 'hounded out' - if he sells up now he will go with a modicum of dignity - thus far the crowd has never turned on him or the boy.

6 minutes ago, The Coach said:

I’ve lost interest now.

Really do not care who comes in. Until Lansdown is gone. We will never progress. 

Me too, for the same reasons. I am however enjoying the OTIB gallows humour - as the gloom settles it's brightening a rather depressing evening.

The very best of luck and health to you Nigel. Your integrity and decency shone through. Pity you have to ply your trade in an industry full of folk lacking either quality. Take a break, get well, enjoy life. You'll be very welcome back at Ashton gate when the clowns have departed.

What to say? Bitter disappointment. The Lansdowns finally appoint a proper football man to the job, get him to do all the dirty work - his  reward? Flogging the family silver and getting the boot.

I can't be arsed to get sucked into another 'Steve's fragile ego' psychodrama. We've been having them for 20 years. Will be watching from afar for a while. 

Good luck everybody!

6 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Until Lansdown sells up, me too.

I'll be spending a lot more time in Italy!

I watched a bit of the racing this afternoon. Struck me that you never hear of race horse owners complaining that the sport is too expensive. It's expensive, end of. If you don't want to spend the money you get out. People buy race horses because they like racing. That costs - like it costs to run a F1 team, or a racing yacht. You don't hear people complaining about the price.

For me there is no argument that we should feel grateful to, sorry for, or understanding of, Steve Lansdown's frustration at his investment or 'losses'. It's his hobby. Football is an expensive hobby. He's not daft. He must have known what he was taking on. If it's no longer of interest the sooner he sells up the better.

If his legacy is going to be bricks and mortar it's a shame he didn't invest in something useful like a hospital. But he didn't. He bought our football club. 

1 minute ago, Sarumred said:

Go and support the gas if that's how you feel.

In fairness to @ChippenhamRed I'm not sure that's how football support works is it? We're all stuck with City. I'm a season ticket holder and on most of the occasions I've been able to get the the Gate in recent years I'd happily have settled for 'dull' over 'frustrated as hell'.

7 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Do you believe that? The team we put out today would lose to pretty much every Championship side. The fact that the lads stayed in the game, battled and didn't get battered is the only positive from that.

Exactly this. It feels to me that we heading back to the Millen/McInnes/SOD era where, for all that individual players were fan favourites, and for all that many posters on here felt we should be doing better, the reality was that we simply didn't have a squad to compete at the highest level of the Championship - and ultimately didn't have a squad to keep us out of the bottom 3!

You can't will these things. No side that gets in the play-offs this season is going to be relying on unproven youngsters to turn matches around. We can debate what constitutes 'young' but we can all look back on accomplished City sides of the past and note that bringing players off the bench to make their professional debuts, or to try and score their first professional goals, is not usually what got them to the top. It's not about effort, or what we'd like to happen - it's about quality. 

6 minutes ago, One Team said:

Completely agree. I can't believe how relatively little criticism he gets on here. He's a reasonable keeper, but he's not top 6 Championship level and does indeed cost us too many important goals. A new, experienced goalkeeper is a must, if nothing else to be good challenge for him. 

Thing is - the only thing that anyone could argue was top 6 about Bristol City is the management who, whatever their critics might say, have at least been there and done it. Steve Lansdown hasn't invested in the current playing squad at a level that screams top 6 - we all know that. Unless he does so we'll be soldiering on with Max and a lad on the bench who's barely played a match...which is better than some on the bench today who have never done so.

3 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said:

Bunch ?

Call it what you like. It's a squad game - 8 of ours were youngsters - 2 made their debuts today - we're bringing on Yeboah to save the day week in week out. Sam Bell passes for an old hand.

Just now, johnheadbcfc said:

Not like we are playing man city

We may as well be if we're going to send out a bunch of kids in one of the toughest leagues in the world.

Credit to our lot that we were in the game for so long.

We don't look awful. Doing quite well considering the line up. They don't look much better. But same old story, careless in possession, final ball missing.

Dispiriting mid table mush I'm afraid. 

Watched the second half. Played well I thought. Impressed with Cornick and Gardner-Hickman. Yeboah enthusiastic but still learning...can't expect him to be a match winner at this stage. Squad obviously lacking depth at a time when injuries bite. Needs that Scott money to be invested.