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48 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Happy to be shot down, like you say it’s winter and people get flu but I know people who had it despite having the flu jab so potentially a different strain to what they usually see? I’m also very rarely ill (like once every few years). Not conclusive at all I know.

I agree with you logically that you’d think it would have been detected if it was around that much earlier

People use the word flu pretty casually, mostly when they have some other virus that manifests as a cold.  One of the actual strains of influenza will generally knock you on your ass (bedridden) for a week or more.  The jab is for the particular strains of influenza that look to be prevalent this year and is low efficacy - seen numbers like 60-70%.  It's given to people at risk of complications to reduce the strain on the NHS, brutally it's an economic thing, there's no real hope of inoculating influenza out of existence.

So, if someone had a jab and then had a flu like illness it could be another virus altogether, a strain of influenza that wasn't covered by the jab, or the jab could just have not worked for them.

1 hour ago, MarcusX said:

Does anyone hear believe the theories that this has been around longer than suggested? It now seems it can be traced back to November rather than end of December as first thought and the Chinese aren't exactly known for being forthcoming. THey could have sat on this for ages

Lots of people seem to be saying they were ill over Xmas time, more so than usual for the time of year. Myself had a genuine flu that wiped me out for 4/5 days, cleared for a few days then came back again briefly. Shortly later my grandmother who I visited after I thought it had cleared was taken ill with some kind of chest infection. My partner also became ill around the same time (week or so after me) but with more of a dry cough, really snotty/sinusy infection which lasted a couple of weeks at least and her Dad then developed the similar chest infection issue that my nan had. We also had an elderly neighbour come down ill enough to call an ambulance which turned out to be a nasty flu. Potentially already been doing the rounds or did we all coincidentally catch something more "seasonal"

Not for a moment, at least not whilst there's no scientific evidence for the theory.  There's a spike in flu like illnesses over winter every year, so anecdotal evidence of people being ill in winter doesn't mean much at all.  If there had been a new easily transmissible virus with a > 1% mortality rate doing the rounds since November I think it would be very visible in national statistics and have been noticed.

3 minutes ago, phantom said:

I'm lost as to your point 

All the other reports on the guy are stating he has Coronavirus,  Arsenal.com is the only place saying he has Covid-19 

What is hard to understand? The media are using the word coronavirus to refer to COVID-19 because they are sloppy. They are not reporting that he has some other virus from the same family.

I don't know why you'd come to the conclusion that a media that has been thoroughly incompetent at science reporting for decades is suddenly accurate!

4 minutes ago, phantom said:

Interesting the only reference is via Arsenal 

I don't think anybody is reporting viruses unrelated to the present epidemic as though they are and I'm not sure how you've come to the conclusion that is what is happening. They're just being sloppy with naming.

8 minutes ago, phantom said:

Indeed 

Coronavirus has been around for decades and is in itself nothing worse than influenza. Which is why the measures being brought in (washing hands etc) are to stop that spreading. 

The virus that is the current problem is called Covid-19 and is something different 

It is interesting to read / watch various news agencies how they are careful which terminology they are using 

If we're going to be fussy about terminology, COVID-19 refers to the disease (symptoms) in the present epidemic caused by the virus SARS-CoV-2 which is a member of the group of coronaviruses.  The chap referred to here has the disease COVID-19 according to the statement from Arsenal.

4 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

FlyBe has collapsed and blamed it partly on Corona Virus. To be fair they've had issues for a while but I expect the sudden drop in demand wont have helped against budgeted figures

Yeah I think that just brought forward the inevitable to be honest and probably saved the public purse a bit on bailout.

1 hour ago, BS2 Red said:

A coronavirus outbreak is going to rip through the place I work.  The company I work for has recently implemented a very strict sickness policy based on Bradford Factor scores.  Basically if you are off sick just a few times in a year, you get hammered.  This has resulted in people being terrified to take any sick time and so the entire office is constantly full of sneezing, coughing and occasionally puking people.  

They also gave us laptops at the start of the year so that people can work from home if necessary.  But they also demand that people pre-book any work from home time and so it has made zero difference to the amount of disease I am surrounded by.

Last Thursday night/Friday morning, I had a bout of diarrhoea, I didn’t feel great but figured I was just about well enough to work.  We had been told the day before that we could work from home if we wanted because of Greta Thunberg coming to Bristol and so I decided to work from home.  I soon received some messages telling me that I either had to take the day as sick, or come into the office.  WFH approval was only given for people who drive in and as I walk I was not allowed to do it.  I said that I didn’t want to spread the bug I had but still had to make a choice between a sick day or coming into the office.  So I went in.  Two people were off Monday with stomach upsets, I have no idea if they caught it from me, but it seems likely.

So yeah, I’m dead if a deadly disease strikes Bristol, we will all be forced into a confined office to spread it amongst ourselves.  None of the above applies to the managers of course, they all work from home whenever they feel like it.

I used to work in a large plc where there were some people who were expected to be in the office and others who had a lot more freedom.  What tended to happen was that every Friday you'd get a flurry of emails from the people in the latter group who were "working from home" at 9am, they'd be uncontactable all day and then you'd see another email or two at sort of 4:30 just to bookend the day nicely so that nobody thought they were skiving.  Then you'd notice on their facebook they were somehow on a weekend away at 5pm having miraculously travelled six hours in a few short minutes...  In hindsight that company had a really shitty culture which was the real problem but that sort of thing really turned me off letting people work from home. 

It took me a while to come around to letting people work more flexibly where I'm at now, but when it goes hand in hand with a decent culture it really does work.  People have coughs and colds they just work from home and I don't lose half the team to man flu over the next week.  People need to go to an appointment, want some quiet desk time to do something or want to skive off early on a Friday that's fine, but if we need someone to fix something in the evening that's also fine.  It's all co-ordinated in a messenger app, people write stuff down and use teleconf and desktop sharing software if they need to and it seems to work.  I actually find myself telling people to work from home fairly often and when we have things like coronavirus and our clients ask what the disaster recovery / business continuity plans are our answer is "we can operate fully remotely on zero notice".  Saves a lot of ball ache.

1 hour ago, RedDave said:

This virus doesn’t compare to Spanish flu surely?

Mortality rate is about the same, there are far fewer cases though so likely it's harder to transmit and care is far better now than 100 years ago.

It may yet be that this becomes a pandemic but so far it's looking hopeful as recoveries are happening much faster than new cases at the moment.

38 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

Just watched the fight, I'm no boxing expert but Tyson just took control from minute one and Wilder didn't know what to do, no footwork, nothing than trying to land the big right hand which Tyson restricted him to virtually none by constantly coming forward.  Not entirely sure how Wilder became a champion based on that showing?  Surely AJ would pick Wilder apart?

AJ gets hit a fair bit.  Wilder hits a lot harder than Ruiz, Klitschko, Povetkin or Takam did.

Does he have the discipline to fight from distance like he did against Ruiz the second time?  Not for 12 rounds IMO, especially since he doesn't really have a reach advantage.

Can he dominate Wilder on the front foot like Fury?  I expect he will get hit too much to do that.  AJ is a better boxer than Wilder but nowhere as as good at movement as Fury.

I think AJ vs Wilder just comes down to who connects first.  Be fun to watch.

Never saw that coming, absolutely fantastic from Fury. And he tasted blood!

9 minutes ago, ChubStixx said:

Being widely reported as 5am here. 

So about 6!

Last time round Fury outlanded Wilder in 9 of 12 rounds - not by much each time but by enough that judges pretty much anywhere else in the world would have given him the win.

I think the talk of Fury going for a KO is just an attempt to mislead people, he'd be mad to risk getting hit.  His best bet is to follow the same game plan as last time just do it better.

11 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

If you were told to have no contact with that Henbury tool for 16 weeks you'd feel like you'd won! Especially if you chinned him as well.

I'd go two for thirty two there to be fair.

Rocky III basically, well aside from the KO.

11 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said:

Any working streams left?

http://crackstreams.ga/boxingstreams/watch-dazn-ruiz-vs-joshua/video.php

1 hour ago, GreedyHarry said:

I so hope this isn't fake.

Spelling.  Looks legit.

26 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

17.5 Tillsons is £6.4m - who are we getting for that?

I thought a Tillson was £400k but it turns out they're even cheaper than I remember.

1 minute ago, INCRED said:

And how much is left in the war chest?

Must be a significant sum still from last seasons outgoings?

Dunno, I'm only talking about transfer fees there - we have a bigger than £20m a season wage bill and the club's income from regular business doesn't cover it so it's not a straightforward question.  I would think there's room for a couple more signings (if Webster goes then maybe a couple more) but because FFP works on a rolling three year period I don't think they will blow it all in one season and leave no room for manoeuvre the following year.

6 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

They are so withdrawn from reality of life in the higher leagues that they do not understand £8mill for a defender isn’t anything now days. 

It's a significant investment.  The more telling point is that after paying £7m for Kalas, £2m for Dasilva, £750k for Smodicz and maybe £3m for Bentley we are still £2.25m in the black from transfer fees given we got £15m from Kelly.  So we can afford to spunk 17.5 Tillsons on the best defender in the Championship.  Must make both their brain cells ache.

10 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said:

If Cardiff or any club believe they have acted within the law and (more importantly) can prove it then they and in my view, majority of clubs would try to do the same thing to save millions.  

I don't condone it myself but for people to be surprised by this, surprises me. Football is a shady business these days with the amount of money being thrown about and if a business believes it legally hasn't done anything wrong then they will try to save money. The moral right thing to do won't come in to it - especially in modern football.

My experience is that the moral thing often comes into it in business - in fact more often than not.  Often that's for reasons of reputation rather than for the sake of it but it's still an important decision making factor. 

So whilst it's not a surprise that Cardiff try and find a way to wriggle out of it, it is still wrong and should not be excused or even misconstrued as common or normal.

15 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said:

I suspect most if not all clubs these days would try to do the same if these a chance they could save millions. Not defending Cardiff at all but to me this is business.

Football is not about integrity or doing what's morally right. It's a business, end of.

Saying "it's business" is an awful excuse.  It's not OK for business to act immorally for financial reasons and it never has been.  Many businesses make decisions for reasons other than purely monetary ones, and in this case that's what should have been done.  After all it is Cardiff's dodgy clique of agents and their families that arranged this flight, no fault of Nantes.  I hope FIFA throw the book at them.

Absolutely no integrity or class as per usual.

10 hours ago, Carey 6 said:

Demetrius Andrade won via 12 round stoppage. Awful decision from the ref. 

 

There's no explanation for that except bribery.  None whatsoever.

I don't understand what Rocky's plan was there... use my reach to my advantage by sitting on the ropes soaking up body shots?  Seems a bit odd.