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I had the misfortune to hear dopey the dog fiddler on the radio tonight.  Jesus tapdancing christ that man speaks pure 100% cliche.  I don't think he managed to dredge up a single sentence that didn't have at least two in.  What a stroker.

On 15/09/2017 at 19:35, slartibartfast said:

Astute bloke, been there a week and sussed it,    "..............Our supporters are different "

He meant "special".

Great result, sounded like a gutsy performance.  Well done City and LJ.  Excited to see what Leko can do on Saturday.

Disgusting that Wolves started an attack from an uncontested drop ball, but hopefully that will make us contest all of them from now on.

A good night.

3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

3-5-2 I'd think 

Flint, Wright, Baker

COD, Brownhill, Leko, Smith, Bryan

Fammy, Reid

Don't think Leko is going into the middle of midfield.

Bristol City FC 

⚽️ #BristolCity v Wolves: Fielding, Wright, Flint, Baker, Bryan, O'Dowda, Brownhill, K.Smith, Leko, Reid, Diedhiou. #WOLvBRC

⚽️ #BristolCity subs: Steele, Magnússon, Pack, Eliasson, Paterson, Taylor, Woodrow. #WOLvBRC

Seems a bit odd.  Wright at right back?  

******* great result.  Well done LJ, city and in particular Aden Flint.  Cider O'Clock.

Wow just had a quick look at the racism thread on asschat.  Some absolute dangers on there, including a guy whining that he lost his job for repeatedly using the n word at work and another who thinks describing pakistanis as p*kis is ok.  Apparently that is PC gone mad.  No wonder these strokers never get anywhere, they're stuck in the 70s.  

Just now, Rudolf Hucker said:

9758 (incl 293 Posh fans and Ted's in the away end)

Crikey, let's hope they're going for a 26k capacity with that new build then?  Or was it 35k?  I'm sure I remember reading one of the six fingered window lickers mentioning that they'd get 20k in league one when they had that so you have to allow for some decent growth when they get promoted to the Champion's league in a few weeks time.

(I'm actually surprised at how high that is but I guess it was their first home game and it will be a one off).

1 minute ago, Club and Country said:

Had one off them in the pub last night telling me there would be 12,000 there today 

and also comparing there support at brum to ours today

every time I came back just called me a glory hunter...

they really are a rare breed 

Birmingham for them is like Man Utd for us in terms of draw though, plus easy caravanning distance.

I bet they were full to the rafters at the mem today with about 10k locked out again?  That new stadium can't come soon enough.

To give the dog fiddler his due he didn't blame the referee this week, just mumbled a bunch of cliches about hard work and admitted they're miles off being a play off contender.  I expect the stadium news, the shite performances and the lack of any real investment from the trillionaire owners will see him looking to find another club in a few weeks time.  How I will laugh.

Sounds like we were the better side in the first 45 and should have made it count a bit more, and then didn't respond well to Harry countering our high pressing game after half time.

Perhaps we needed a bit more savvy and a bit more firepower on the bench.  Brum fans seem to think they are hopeless going forward so conceding two there isn't ideal.

Our first tough game and it wasn't a disaster, encouraged by the commentary that we played good passing football at a high tempo in the first half.  Good to hear Reid and Diedhiou working well together.

Onwards and upwards.

Just now, Nogbad the Bad said:

Only 6 mins plus stoppage unfortunately.

I started typing on 80 minutes and the phone rang.  Thanks though.

10-15 minutes to get this 3 points.  Throw Hinds in now for a full back I think.

On the plus side the sags are getting spanked at home, looking forward to hearing dopey the dog fiddler crying later.

**** me what a start.  COYR!

7 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Bored on a Friday afternoon?

Then take a journey down memory lane, when the UWE was a formality and Wally was a billionaire.

http://gaschat.co.uk/thread/5974/confirmed-al-qadi-family-takeover?page=1

 

Cracking laugh.

Just now, Red Army 75 said:

Just reading Leroy roseniors column in the post. He said city and rovers should of come together and built a super stadium. Can't agree with that at all . 

Makes lots of sense for the blue few and none whatsoever for us.  Rosenior never seems to understand Bristol football.

15 minutes ago, Redsi2 said:

The following from gaschat is another winner. "They aren't billionaires because they found their money down the back of the sofa". I will correct this for them "they aren't billionaires and all they found was 20p down their sofa which will now be our rebuild fund".

 

I may be talking out of turn here but I am certain that the Al Quadi family will have studied, planned and sorted out all the possibilities of how the Mem will be developed. They will also know how they will get the best financial return from the new stadium. They aren't billionaires because they found their money down the back of the sofa! Maybe they are keeping their plans close to their chest because it is all part of the big bluff to UWE. I genuinely believe that UWE thought they were dealing with gullible, rich foreigners who UWE would be able to pull the wool over their eyes and basically rip them off. Maybe now they are in a state of panic and Wael announcing alternative plans is just a ruse to make UWE think they are about to miss out on a fantastic opportunity to have A1 facilities on their campsite. With no new stadium they are left with nothing. Yes, maybe they could put houses on the land and make some money that way but that is short sighted and in the long run will not benefit the campus. Build a state of the art stadium with loads of facilities for their students to use for many years is a far better option. I may be wrong but I am not 100% sure that the UWE stadium is dead in the water....yet! The family have been damned good to us and haven't let us down yet and I don't see why they would in the future. Let's be patient and see what happens. In the mean time I am going to carry on with a far more important task and that is to support the Gas no matter where they play.COYB FTG

What a stroker.

UWE are very savvy about development, just take a look around the campus - in particular the new Business School and the tech incubator.  Very impressive stuff.

The stadium would have had little benefit to students, especially when compared to other things that could be built and cheaper too - like more accommodation, swimming pool, cycling track or other sports facilities for actual use of the students.

It's pretty clear what happened.  Wally wanted to buy the land and build a stadium and a bunch of stuff that would make him money.  UWE wanted to lease the land and build the other stuff themselves.

Now the sags will have to deal with waiting another five years for Wally to find an excuse not to waste money on the rugby ground and dig up some other mug to fund their lower league shite.

Just now, tompo said:

There is a right of appeal if a planning application is refused.  The appeal would be heard by a Planning Inspector, unless called in by the Secretary of State.

If the Inspector dismisses the appeal a judicial review would only be considered if there is evidence that the decision is unlawful, for example, if the Inspector has failed to take in to account a material consideration.  You cannot apply for a judicial review just because you do not agree with a decision.

Yeah true, but the planning inspectors advise on the original decisions so unless the council go against advice you'd expect appeals to be fairly unlikely to succeed.  All I'm basically saying is it's not a foregone conclusion that they'd make the same decision now that they did years ago.  In a legal decision all that goes into it is law.  Two cases should get the same verdict despite being years apart (unless law is changed).  In planning, other factors affect it and can do so without policy change.  The makeup of the council, prevailing economics, traffic, environment - all these can be assessed differently at a different time without policy necessarily having changed and result in a different decision.

1 minute ago, The Bard said:

There's a difference between precedent and caselaw though I think? 

Not an expert but the way I understand it case law refers to the set of previous decisions that establish precedent.  Basically if a decision has been given by a court which is higher in stature on a case that is similar the court has to decide it the same way.  

9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Precedent most certainly does come into planning, particularly when we're talking about exactly the same site and type of development.

In the legal world there are established rules for precedent.  Roughly speaking a court is obliged to accept points of law established in decisions by higher courts or explain why the case at hand is distinguished from those.  

Is there actually an obligation like this in planning?  Or is it just a case of "people sometimes try to be consistent".  Genuine question because I've never heard of one, but you seem to know this area well.

12 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

that doesn't matter, the original plans was for a stadium expansion, so will the new ones, precedent has already been set 

That isn't how planning or the legal system works.  Precedent doesn't come into planning.

The council are perfectly within their rights to arrive at a different decision even if the application was exactly the same because many other external factors could be different.

The only appeal is a judicial review and for that to succeed it has to be shown that there was something wrong with the decision in a very narrow set of criteria based on the procedure applied not the actual decision.

Even if you win a judicial review it doesn't mean you get the decision you want, the court could simply direct the council to make the decision again.

I expect the truth of this is that it was a poor deal for the blue few as the only way they could afford it was if all the revenue from the stadium and ancillary bits except tickets was staying with the landlord (or sold in advance in the form of very long term franchises).  Higgs spoke of the club being debt free afterwards, which was extremely suspect given the gap between the money Sainsbury's were planning to put up and the build cost.

I did enjoy listening to the dog manual manipulator whinging on local radio about the goal that never was.  Never mind the flukey sending off he "didn't see".

4 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

I'm going to Sainsbury's tomorrow. Think I will spend an extra tenner . Ha ha ha ha ha . Wheres that you tube clip of that father and son . 

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