Fordy62

Ever been to Sweden?

Expensive I trust?

I'm fortunate enough to be here with a mate who's paid Swiss wages and understands the issue!

Happening to fans at our club? Are you for real? Do you not remember what happened?

Who do we think is to blame for the 'draconian' legislation football fans face?

A. Football fans

B. anyone else

Sadly, all the derby match proved is that such measures are absolutely justified and absolutely necessary.

Fans of any other sport don't misbehave with such startling regularity and guess what... Rugby & Cricket fans can drink while watching the game, go into the ground drunk and pretty much drink as much as they like. But in the case of football it's all someone else's fault.

Then dont ccomment on what you know arse all about.

But we have hundreds of people in here, including yourself, that appear to be experts in policing! Brilliant.

Anyone care to complain that the Louis Carey testimonial was over policed?

Ok, so the unwritten answer is that these are in fact nasty pieces of work who would go on the run if they knew that they were going to be arrested.  And that I am wrong to assume otherwise.

 

That's fine, as it is an assumption on my part and these are sometimes wrong. I have no inside knowledge and no axe to grind.

 

If you say this is poprtionate and appropriate, based upon information that you have, then I will accept that. The test will be that these 16 are in found guilty of criminal offences when they come to trial.

No Eddie, you've got me wrong. I have no inside knowledge of this matter, it goes without saying that i wouldn't be on here commenting on it if i did. I'm just saying that in order to obtain the best evidence, the element of surprise is a pretty good tactic.

I would really like to know exactly what it is that the police have done this morning to upset so many on here?

Let me ask you this... how many were arrested versus how many ran on the pitch? I'm guessing not a very high proportion. I said at the time that it'd be unlikely that the police would go after those that had only entered the playing area.

I suppose the dawn raids issue is upsetting some? Well you're most likely to catch someone at home at that time. If the police had gone round at lunch time, they may have gone out for the day. So they'd need to go again, and again, and again. By which point the suspect knows that they're coming and if he so wishes, can seek to evade arrest. The more times people have to go out to attempt to arrest said people, the more expenditure on resources there is.

I'm afraid that's going to have to be the end of contribution for me. 

What a complete media stunt this will be. I cannot actually believe people are saying "well done old bill". Absolutely crazy, yea, lets enable them to continue to be able to treat football fans like a sub section of the Taliban because, I personally love getting batons slapped round the back of my legs for f* all at every away game. I do not agree with any violence at the football and I understand action must be taken but, this seems over the top. All you lot applauding this clearly have had different backgrounds to me..

clearly.

Why is that ridiculous? We are not talking about career criminals. How often is there law-breaking violence at a Bristol City game? Six times a year absolute tops.

 

So if any of these are repeat offenders then they're not doing it very often and are not about to go on the run because of it.

 

So you write to them to come in, some will do so. Where they don't then you issue a warrant for their arrest and then you can do your dawn raid.

 

I accept that not every one of those involved is a decent lad who got carried away, there are some nasty pieces of work out there, but when you get up to 16 people being arrested in dawn raids for some trouble on the pitch then the word that you are looking for is "disproportionate".  Save those kind of exercises for terrorists and armed robbers where there is every reason to do so.

I'm sorry that I can't respond to this as I'd like to for fear of disclosing too much, but needless to say it's never ideal to telegraph to suspect that he/she is getting arrested.

And your whole post is full of assumptions you're using to try to evidence your point.

Perhaps the fact that there is CLEARLY an issue with the way things are dealt with in this area.

 

Would be interested to hear your views on the previously released figures that showed last season 175 Newcastle fans arrested, which is more than three times as many as the City total !! This included 114 for violent disorder, but a total just 8 bans handed out by the magistrates and police.

 

There were 87 Arrests at one match involving Nuneaton for violent disorder, with just 4 bans.

 

 

Now compare this to our region, where City had 54 arrests over the season, 34 of these receive banning orders.

 

These are the sort of things that the Football Supporters Trust should be brought into look at, something very wrong

Quite an easy response there. I'd say Northumbria/Warwickshire Police aren't doing their job properly.

It's pretty simple, don't do anything wrong and you'll have nothing to worry about... (although I'm well aware that there are corrupt coppers out there).

What? You think people having the opinion that an unnecessary escalation by an organisation known for raiding the wrong houses and killing innocent people is embarrassing?

No wonder the same mistskes keep happening, and innocent people continue to die, whwn a serving officer can make such a blase statement regarding police raids.

You seem to be of the opinion that no one should get their comeuppance?

Unnecessary escalation? I know time is a healer pal, but have you not forgotten exactly what went on? Sure a few people ran on the pitch, but you rather fittingly seem to have forgotten that people were hit by coins and chairs. Would you rather just sweep it all under the carpet?

This isn't about police killing people, or raiding the wrong houses, it's about football fans who took things too far that night. They deserve to get arrested by whatever means possible.

As for writing to said suspects, what a ridiculous suggestion!

Here's a novel idea. When are you most likely to catch someone at home?

The fact people are slating the police is pretty embarrassing.

Oooh, oooh, I love catchphrase.

Is it "couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo (an invisible one while a duck looks on puzzled)?

Look at our last few results and our league position. That might give you a clue

Surely you can't be serious?

The bluebirds are painting the town red.

Quite clever I thought.

It is though....utterly laughable. These c@nts have rinsed your bank account this season, made a fortune and did not even break a sweat.

....and you clap them.

Embaressing

Were you aiming for irony with your last word?

You win some, you lose some.

Through thick and thin I love Bristol City.

Relegation? Give a shit.

Oh well. I'd rather be relegated tonight than on the last day of the season, on 55 points, when word filters through that some other team has scored a 96th minute goal.

It doesn't feel right when games don't mean anything.

I'll take that all day long.

couldnt make it tonight just caught up with updates... seems another winless performance playing soddin 1 up front... ?

A performance that on the stats, appears to have battered Brighton.

Cue Adomah wonder strike...

bottling it in wales again

cardiff 1-0 down

Wales?

Are the BBC stats a joke?

Come on city and come on all other English clubs.

Eh? Barnsley? Peterborough? Wednesday?

Best post of the day..............9 points from 15th with 48 points to play for. All to play for. Exciting times. I'm up for it, are you in ?

Ok, so we lost an away game. No big deal. Keep winning st home and well be just fine.