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Sorry, but you need to read my post again in context. If Bristol City ladies played v male Bristol City players at 19, players of that age are in the professional development phase Mickey Bell oversees.

Its thread about Bristol City WSL. I do not think Mickey Bell would allow it here. It is dangerous.

I didn't state there's no chance, there is always a chance. I could post a list of games where adult female teams have done very badly versus U teams. My Sons former U15 development centre side beat a female WNL team, U15 males bullied adult females while holding back physically for fear of injuring their opponents. I coach primarily males, and I have coached females the differences in physical capability from strength, speed and abc's are stark. I would support and have been involved in females playing with males till U14. Past that age there is a safety and safeguarding issue. It maybe be ok for adult females to play non competitive football, to participate in light training with adult males, it is not safe and it is utterly foolhardy for adult females to play in competitive games and intense training involving contact against adults of the opposite sex. Females simply cannot physically complete. Males physically destroy females in football, if they desire. I in my advancing years can dominate high level adult (I have coached them) females physically, I would not even take part in SSG's because the risk of injuring a player is so high. A Lucy Bronze is a wonderful female player. In the male game she would be slow, lacking power, and small in stature. That is the Lucy Bronze that scores headers at corners for England Ladies at the elite of the elite level .. She would be physically bullied in the male game. Hence I state female football should be judged and admired as the female game it is.

That is a wild one amongst Keynsham's goal heavy results, but Keynsham is primarily a youth team. Primarily students from merchants academy. That's kids 16 - 19 playing v adults sides and occasionally beating them (7-3 Saturday). Total Pro Soccer - Merchants' Academy (merchantsacademy.org) The team frequently play remarkable eye catching possession football and then get over powered by opponents. What they are doing is exceptional, and they will not finish bottom of their men's league. Keynsham Town First | Toolstation Western Football League (thefa.com)

A national league team would easily. A Western league would likewise. Good standard male U18 again .. Its not a fair equivalence. Females cannot possess the pace and power of males, no amount of training will bridge that gap. Female football should be judged by the game that it is. Female football.

One I can share. Scott Murray was sent a few kind messages calling him kit boy and telling him to pick the dirty jock straps off the floor. JET sent a message back to the Swindon players, " I am going to make you eat those jock straps".

My Son refs, we also have one on here. The two are saying no red card. I agree as a coach. My Son says look at the considerations, not rules as I called them - Distance from goal, defenders covering, direction of play etc. I think they are numerous things that could have happened in a split second. I am not convinced there is not a heavy touch in there, the keeper and defender are moving to force the player away from goal, their narrowing the angle, there is a lot going on I see as a coach x those considerations. I think it fails that quick test of being a obvious goal scoring opportunity so no red card.

IFAB do differing official versions of the rules, full and simplified, there is also glossaries and details, but to my knowledge that is as good (clarified) as it gets. The EFL website may interest and its behind the whistle section. There is a decision featured, Red card, DOGSO outside of the area - Behind the Whistle: The weekend's key match decisions - The English Football League (efl.com)

No DOGSO. No red card. Your a brilliant informative poster Dave, but DOGSO does apply outside the box. DOGSO could be applied on the half way line in rare scenarios (GK- all up for corner and team counters).

Your post stated if that's true these player aren't the good lads .. I repeated my post because I didn't think you understood it, you clearly did not. I have made no mention of todays performance. I also didn't mention liking Nigel Pearson. I used the not particularly big words of faith, doubt, trust, authentic and leadership. In a sporting setting these do matter. If faith and trust in the leadership is compromised in a group, and individuals its logical, its human that effort levels suffer.

You could read my post again. I did not mention todays performance at all. I remarked on your general point about the players not being a good bunch of lads and the players going out and doing their best. You are maybe not understanding the point about authentic leadership, and trust in that leadership and sport. If in the next game the players might show more effort, and this might is a consistent behaviour the leadership is failing. Effort is psychological, it is mindset and players who doubt what they are doing, their team mates, or their leadership will display inconsistencies as a behaviour.

A group of lads doing their best because of authentic leadership. If the new gaffer lacks that authentic leadership these lads will have to be better than good to be at their best, to be unaffected by change would make individuals exceptional. Its normal sporting psychology where faith, or doubt in leadership will effect positively or negatively mindset and performance levels.

How does that work? If your playing Saturdays you won't be watching City, unless your referring to junior Sunday league teams and lads at youth levels are gaining understanding of the game, they do not thoroughly understand it.

Is making the game up as it happens going to bring success? Man City do not. The best club team ever is arguably Barcelona. The two teams here are Coached by the same person obviously. Both teams embody how principles are used to govern a game that is unpredictable and chaotic by breaking the game down into elements. This football has been successful.

A footballer needs training to react to a game that has many differing situations. From early ages we work on kids abc's , and forming technical abilities that will help the player meet the challenges of the game. There is no intuitive football gene. Humans do not leave the womb with football movement and intelligence. That is a result of hundreds and thousands of hours of play and practice. Human reaction times improve with practice. That is our response not our innate instinctive reaction. What we can see is very different reaction times in the trained, and untrained. The players with quickest reaction times, scan more frequently ( its a fact) and they thus react to the picture their mind sees, reaction drops by milliseconds as scanning drops. Scanning again is a skill learned in training and its created by repetition and going through a continuum of scan, move, play or not, scan to move again so the individual knows what they will do in advance frequently before the variables occur. Processes. A scenario. Two players of equal athleticism, skill level. Player A does one session training session and player B does months of intense training with a team playing possession based football, playing positionally, looking to create numerical superiority, and looking to switch play off triggers to isolate opponents. Which player in that team would play more intuitively and efficiently? Which player would react more quickly to the teams football? Its player B. In regards to your last line. I could answer with Lionel Messi. See what La Masia's and Barcelona's process did?

The game plan post Man City for Lee Johnson morphed from a short passing game to a long ball game and from a high press to a medium block. What sort of player have the FA helped produce. Looking at the current England XI and the FA's influence is there (future game) some highly highly skilled players. Movement is not intuitive. Players make split decisions based upon the internalisation of their training. The ball entering a zone is the trigger to move in relation to the players training. Players will take up positions in a split second displaying unconscious competence because they understand where the ball is, or most likely going because they recognise the patterns before them and the neuro process follows of pre frontal cortex, cerebellum coordinating instructions to the motor cortex to move muscles etc. That intuition is trained in during intense deliberate integrated practice, over years, and months. Now do a player who has not trained in responses, makes the game up? Will the player be more efficient? Will his reactions be split-second?

Do the FA drive from encyclopaedic coaching manuals? LJ was not a extreme example of process driven football. He jumped from idea to idea. Process is periodized not episodic.

Processes get you to your outcome. Football coaching constantly focusses on processes to achieve outcomes, Training is process, the preparation to achieve. To achieve a goal, a target you will not make up how you get there. There is a linear process present. The here there. The passing it around the back, almost certainly is a sub principle of the process. The good teams, the great teams, lots of teams have a model of play they are working towards. This is how they will achieve their aims of success. That model of play will be based upon principles of play which govern attack, defend, transitions and set pieces. Principle one of attack can be the team will be possession based, and play positionally. That principle will have sub principles that define how possession is kept and used e.g the team will play through the thirds, the team will build from the back .. I have got to your passing it around the back quickly there...Passing the ball around the back, keeping possession to build attacks is part of the processes, working towards outcome in the model of play that achieves success. Differing teams will use different language. The above is not exact to all sides. He probably has one locked away .. As part of his coaching badge projects. Their not uncommon at all sorts of levels. Level two coaches for grass roots teams did similar as part of assessment.

I misread it, still triggered by years of a n other banging on about identity while going through styles.

In football Dave principles are fixed. Really they are. As my rather qualified coaching mentor explained, "If you are changing your principles, their not ******* principles, styles change not the principles".

Your going through the DOGSO rule of DDDC. Distance from goal. Defenders covering. Direction of play. Control of ball. When the foul is committed there is a covering defender. The Keeper and defender are in close proximity to the attacker. The players are covering. They do not have to be challenging. That could easily be the failure in the test.

You are misunderstanding the word clear in relation to IFAB who set the rules. Clear will mean almost certainly score when all variables are considered. The defender between the attacker and GK would prevent the opportunity being DOGSO as it would not be 1v1. Because the player is attacking from an angle. The wider the angle the less obvious the goal scoring opportunity is.

Whats his expertise beyond finances? I watched the video and he is eloquent. Its not apparent if he knows anything about football. Bristol City should be challenging at the top end of the table. Why because they say so. They have a great squad of players, 100% promotion this season. Significant investment this summer. The pieces are in place. Its great and fantastic. Its eloquently delusional.

Thoughts. I thought despite my rudimentary understanding that the statement made was unrealistic, at best.

The markings on the ball are not necessary. Ever hear of a company who introduced a high vis ball to a top flight league and had to scrap it because players couldn't see it properly. The league was La Liga and the company was Puma, the ball lasted one week of matches. Fifa approved it, Puma hadn't tested a high visibility ball for its visibility. The markings and the pink looked lovely versus Spain's notoriously harsh snowy winters!!