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  1. Then that feral tiny minority would not be a binary and or. Football fans are divergent. Legal punishments have helped to cut massively offending at football. We can look at football as then and now. Its silly to state that legal punishments that are greatly elevated (discriminatory?) for football are inadequate as a means of deterrent. No chance? Placing Police in areas that are more at risk would be more productive than what occurred last night. In a time of high emotion when the Police and safety officers will know using historical norms, fans will come onto the pitch, a fan ran into the dugout area which was unguarded by Police or Stewards. The risk Management there is a disgrace, leading to a induvial behaving disgracefully. Its not just the ... Same as it was in the past but the numbers have decreased, an ever present to be Managed. What happened to self-awareness .. Football crowds in the 70's, 80's, 90's and were so much more aware!! Football crowds in stadiums have become far less emotional, less responsive, less unpredictable, and far less violent. There were nearly 30,000 at Forest. One individual doesn't define the crowd.
  2. Cocaine has replaced amphetamines as the drug of choice to use with alcohol. Cocaine use has increased v decreasing amphetamines consumption over decades. Alcohol use has decreased across the populace. Football fans in C2 groups upwards x age groups display obvious themes in drinking and drug usage v the populace. Is cocaine responsible for violence? Todays football crowds were far more violent in the past. There are socio economic factors there.
  3. Because its not a perfect world we manage risks. Players in general do not have to deal with it. There are legal punishements that prevent offending = Most people do not act in a similar manner. You don't get fans celebrating, or feral. Feral fans in hundreds .. It no longer happens in stadiums. Thats the past. There are now very small numbers of problematic supporters. There are risks to manage. That is the proactive. Assaults on players/Managers are a rare occurence. This assault, the assailant ran up the touch line to the dug outs. There is a control measure there. Safety officers and the Police know fans will come on the pitch, its inevitable, so a control measure could be funnelling fans away from the dug outs, tunnels, or further allow pitch celebrations after the players have left the pitch, and are in a area where risk can be better managed. The system is broken ... Uneven at best. Football came from a dark place where pitched battles happened at stadiums were weekly events. Systems very much work.
  4. The person responsible will be dealt with legally. Assaults on players are very rare. Fans celebrating on the pitch, or indulging in what are end of season traditions is not a rare occurence. We know fans will go on pitches, celebrations on pitches can be managed.
  5. When assessing risks perspective should be used. Football has a history to assess. How many people are injured due to pitch invasions? How many people have been injured, or died due to fencing?
  6. Yes the stats paint pictures. Ball rolling time has increased over dedades. Compare ball rolling time now v the eighties/nineties. What the stats tell you is that possession based teams have higher ball rolling times, and those that place greater emphasis on direct football and set plays have lower ball rolling times. Stokes stats were a reflection of their game approach not gamesmanship. Having a stop the clock system would mean some games would be two hours long. Think about the variables for games, levels (grass roots to pro) and fans. There would also still be gamesmanship. Stopping the clock, still stops a game and breaks momentum.
  7. Cowshed

    League AGM

    Refs are accountable. They are promoted and demoted. From level seven upwards.
  8. Cowshed

    League AGM

    That is IFAB. International Football Association Board | Laws of the Game | IFAB (theifab.com) The links explain how laws are changed. Its a process that has to benefit football as a whole not individual leagues and TV. Football rules should be universal.
  9. Cowshed

    League AGM

    A free kick can be taken without the refs whistle. but there are criteria where you cannot take a free kick quickly like has the ref identified what the offence is, whether there will be a sanction, can the opponents get ten metres away etc.
  10. Exactly. These players are not solely defenders. People do vieW full backs as defdenders v players who start at the back(?) but play the full length of the pitch. This player makes ninety passes a game that is more than Henderson or Thiago . Its a play making full back. The word full can be interpreted as its plays that FULL length of the park. Walkers demented pace allows Man City to create extreme width depth and dispersal. Its defending but not in a traditional sense as the players starting positions are not that of traditional right backs as he covers multiple zones. James ditto, no flat back four and none of the traditional you do not advance. Walker v Arnold for England .. Very differing players. Southgate has used Walkersas the third CB and at full back but withdrawn v Man City. Arnold? Cant see it.
  11. The full backs frequently play the full length of the pitch starting from that tucked in (its inversion) position. The formations are still 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 but they are a means to the control of possession. Liverpools full backs go high because the likes of Henderson drop in to full back positions and centre back positions to create security. Out of possession the team goes into a traditional shape. If your interested in this. Henderson uses a movement know as Laviplana build up. Common in Germany. Common in Spain now becoming more common in England.
  12. Peterboro play 3-4-1-2. Barnlsey have played over half the season with 3-4-1-2 and 3-4-3. Derby played 4-2-3-1 and systems of 4-3-3 etc. But you may, or not want to advance the thinking here. Fulham play 4-2-3-1 and Bournemouth 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 as part of possession based football. Their teams intent and its outcomes are clear. City play 3-4-1-2, 3-5-2 and make several hundred passes less a game than the above. What is the intent behind Citys formation? Its not clear.
  13. And my reply mentioned some. I provided an example of a forward. Striker was in your post. Its a rare beast in the championship that can play adeptly multiple roles. What we do see is norms where players move from roles where their skill sets = Qualities required - RB - RWB. The positions are not wholly different. Could Diedhiou performed at centre back? No. He did not man mark and was poor at following tactical approaches like screening. Defending is tactical and psychologically demanding. Heading a few corners while guarding a zonal space is easy in comparison, and in comparison, current players do similar as well. As for his recovery post explosive movement, his physical corner was poor. Defenders need recovery qualities to sustain levels under pressure.
  14. Because individuals have differing aptitudes and skill sets. Some players really will not, and c annot meet the challenges of differing roles within teams. Famara Diedhiou as a mobile ball retaining and ball winning centre midfielder? That is fanciful.
  15. There were Cornish teams in the Western league in the eighties. The number has increased as the Western League has evolved with teams being promoted, or entering the Hellenic league. The Western league has moved on its not the same clubs around Bristol, Somerset and North/West Wilts. The Western league is better for it. Clubs progress up and through. Logic? Clubs don't know what they are part of. Yes they do and the Cornish teams go the other way.
  16. I thought that was steps four to six. The Western league league is constantly altering as teams enter the Southern League and leave for steps down, and across. Frome. Larkhall, Manor Farm, Melksham, Paulton amongst other long term members have been lost and in are coming teams from elsewhere. South West teams leaving the South peninsula league etc are stepping up a level to Western league football. Teams like Saltash have left and returned to the Western League from a lower level. Versus the eighties, nineties the Western league has become dynamic versus being filled with the same teams season upon season. Keynsham are in that evolving league by choice. Point here is there are alternatives for Keynsham, others choose alternative leagues that fit means and ambition.
  17. Its a Western League. Keynsham enter this league each season understanding where teams play. They can choose to leave and join another league (the Hellenic) as other former Western league teams have.
  18. For Liverpool. For England Hendersons stats lower as he is used primarily to hold - He plays to conservative instruction.
  19. Phillips makes a fifth of the assists Henderson makes, makes less key passes, makes less passes and has a lower passing accuracy.
  20. And here they could be benefits beyond being terse. This is the team Mr Pearosn manages and coaches. He has have been in the job for a significant periods. That team is a reflection of his Management and ideas. Self reflection and explaining how improvement will be made, how his principles and standards will drive this improvement is Management. Its quite a normal form of Management where the Manager shares what his team will be good at. Mr Pearson arrived with a reputation of being a organiser. Expectation would his team could defend corners .. Well recently its been shit. It appears difficult for fans to highlight what BCFC are consistently good at, or how they are going to improve. Want fan buy in, support, improve yourself and that team Mr Pearson.
  21. The interviewer could have responded with its not a totally different system/complete change because literally it is not. The alterations are significant but not total or a complete change in system. You pulled a player out of here to create more obvious numerical superiority here, but why is that? Information sharing with fans, getting fans to buy into and support playing approach (team identity?) is a good thing. Zonal marking - Defending masters Arsenal under Graham marked zonally at set pieces. A point there for Mr Pearson as Arsenal fans knew what their team was about.
  22. Thats a challenge I wont answer. Its a hybrid of differing things and not a general 4-4 etc. The different system is five instead of three players centrally occupying the space the team have been conceding (x3) recently from.
  23. Your question was regarding successful clubs. The majority of clubs, and indeed sportsmen are unsuccessful because in sport they have to be. The winners are the minority. In football the game obviously has three results. Psychology applies to losing teams. Sean Dyche employs psychologists at Burnley, a team whose success can be measured by their existence in the Premier league, and a team who in reality cannot win regularly. Burnley's mental challenges will not be the same as Man City’s and defeat will have to be kept in perspective and managed.
  24. Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City .. And in the Championship the leaders Fulham.
  25. The underlined player is there to effect the delivery of the ball. Inswingers. Citys zonal defenders are taking positions parralel to the above player. To defend an area where the ball is not be delivered to as the underlined effects the delivery. Its weird defending principle. Positioning themselves zonally higher effects where the team is conceding goals. The players can still drop a metre for inswinging crosses. It can be four and four, four and five (no short), four and six a hybrid of zonal blocking and man marking. Or the "four" can continue being all over the show and allowing the opponents to boss their house, their box like ... They should be insulted by being second. It is a mess. Bouncing balls in the box is kids football. The Manager, coaches and players might want to reflect on how poor that is.
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