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I have not stated that VAR doesnt reduce errors, I have stated in another thread that VAR improves efficiency, That efficiency is quantified by IFAB the FA etc. Yes VAR will expose. It exposes refs. Refs that are under pressure, and ridiculed, and disrepected. These are good people, decent people who are not cheats, are not incompetant etc. These refs are highly hiighly skiilled, that is how they get through a process. VAR does not breed respect for officialdom. Respect is much needed in football where we are seeing at grass roots level child refs being abuse, Bristol leagues being postponed due4 to the levels of abuse, Bristol refs having to call the police to get out of car parks safely at kids game .. That abuse, a crisis is a national picture and is being fed from the top down. Thousads of refs are giving the game up. More than are being recruited. These are good people, decent people. Yes there will still be errors. Yes there is still the cycle of disrepects aimed at refs in the EPL and that cycle will be iin the EFL. Priorities? Respect? The well being of the game?

The comparison is not absurd. Bristol City players make errors leading to? Refs and linesmen make occassional errors that may lead to? You were apparantly thinking refs should be sacked after one bad game, Sacked from employment. If refs are to be sacked after errors on that scalethe EPL/EFL/PGMOL are going to have to bring in a huge number of refs from abroad to hire and sack, refs who are of the same measured standrads, and who will also make errors. Now that is an absurdity. Part of law 11 is subjectiive isn't it? The linesman has to make a call that involves variables of line, proximity, prescience, movement and on. Its not black and white. I am answering your questions. Don't imagine. Labour not that is a measure of trust, Blairs WMD's that could be launched in 45 secs have not been found yet.

The possible offside v Sharp isnt blatant. It is subjective x a degree of physical where a linseman would have to use primary focus, peripheral focus and subjective judgement at speed. Error there has to occur occassionally as humans are human. If the referee falls under a consistent standard yes they would be demoted. If your perceived standard of this refere is a consistent reality the referee will be demoted. Demotion will mean they will lose their job. Some refs are demoted from the PGMOL and at later date promoted again after improvement in consistency. Would you sack a player after two or possibly three errors?

I have been at a level where I have been modestly paid to play, coach and manage. I still coach and one of the things the ongoing coaching education includes is self-reflection. As part of the coaching and my own improvement I go to FA ran events for refs, Managers and coaches where refereeing, and rule changes ae discussed. A fact. Refereeing efficiency has not decreased, it’s the other way around over decades. The FA, leagues and IFAB who are responsible for the rules and how they are applied monitor efficiency. Refereeing in England up the pyramid via the PGMOL is intensely monitored, the refs are professional and highly skilled, they have to be and if standards drop, they are demoted. The process and ref pyramid from level seven refs upwards improves standards at each level. It is incrediibly hard to progress to semi pro level as a ref, past that is elite levels. England’s refs are not second rate. If the refs were the EPL/EFL (purchasing highly skilled ref services) and the PGMOL (a business selling top quality ref services) would bring in refs from abroad, the ones whose efficiency is measured in La Liga etc who are actually performing at the same monitored standards of the PGMOL refs. Select one refs do EPL, Championship, div one, div two .. And some select one dont because they are at standard, where they are on the super ref standard of EPL, FIFA, Europa and Champions leagues ..

The standard of refereeing is high. Refereiing standards in England of similar levels to those in comparatiive lewagues in Europe, Ref efficiency is measured, Refs have to go through a rigorous process of many years to reach championship level, a process that also seems them demoted if their marks and evaluations fall below standards. Refs will make errors, as did the City player giving the ball away under little pressure with options available last night and Utd score from the possession City conceded. The reaction on here to a pass a youth player could have made? None. Double standards? City failed because the team failed not because a ref made errors and errors above ARE part of football. Projecting failure onto offiicials is a weak mindset. Excuses are not solutions. Excuses are a flight response not a fighters. A major change is needed in footall. Self reflection where people look at themselves rather than projecting blame elsewhere. This should start at the top with respecting the game. It is top to bottom.

Are you really really sure? How would in this industry where detail down to minutiae is measured would this conspiracy versus one team be missed?

Its not baffling, it costs, and the industry in the championship doesn't cover it yet. No team would be better off points wise beyond a very short term. Unless you believe there is a conspiracy v Bristol City refereeing error is chance (luck). Luck is a consistent across all teams, luck occurs in even measure where refereeing errors even out across teams over months and seasons.

Your doing well. Drift is a fine description. City are drifting to differing zonal starting positions. The consistent drift is deeper into the six-yard box, not drifting out past it. The drift increases the space in front of the zonal line which has to leave more space to control. Teams are putting bodies in that created space and there is a theme to the goals conceded. Zonal marking has to be the control of space, City's zonal line dropping concedes control. Step up the starting line a metre or two the picture changes.

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I would expect a non league team to be able to adjust its line, I will go further youth teams can see a identified trigger to efficiently step up and down. Your pics. Players react to one Swansea entering the six yard box. A player is making that adjustment and his team mates should be working off that adjustment and its trigger, or they are just reacting and making it up. I would question what the defending principles are. Set pieces should be governed by principles, players knowing their reactions and roles.

You have highlighted a ground where acoustics at the rears of stand were great. Great to be in as small crowds congregated at the rear sounded loud for the numbers. It was a unusual stadium as Millwalls fans would walk around 3/4 of it and change ends. The 2-2 when Aizelwood scored, and Millwalls firm ambushed City at London bridge under escort was so noisy because the majority of the gate (4-5 thousand) was in one end under the same low roof alongside 350-400 hardcore City fans on a mid week night.

It was not a point about anything beyond numbers of passes. I could have progresseed it a bit. Man City play with depth and width. Man City do play a lot from the back, its up back and through with Ederson making thirty plus passes a game, and the team making exceptional numbers of passes backwards (up to 40%), backwards to go fowards and stretch the pitch in theory. Swansea are compact in comparison. Man City's game recently v Dortmund saw City have five shots from 900+ passes. Good there is a perception. Possession at the top level is regularly used to nullify the opposition. Team rest in possession and subdue. Principle one is frequently the possession football is keeping the ball, in order to play positional play. The same fundamental principle is there in Swanseas play, with more functional positional play.

Bayern Munich, PSG as an average make more passes than 638 a game. Man City recently went past 900 passes in a game v Dortmund who also average more than 638 passes a game. Haaland played in that game.

Step up. City get consistently unnecessarily deep, which is obviously an opinion but zonal marking has to be the control of space, Dropping creates more space, lines do not have to rigid and they can respond to how much space the opposition leaves. Corner one the team is high. Three the zonal markers are dropping (why?) and eleven they have dropped (why again?). This concedes control of space, and can create advantage for the opposition who have more space for runners, stepping the line ups denys the opposition space for runs on the defending zonal line.

Nationally leagues are being suspended. This month - Referee speaks out as Merseyside youth league suspend weekend matches to raise awareness of abuse | ITV News Granada In regards to one of the teams involved they are serial offenders. That a game was abandoned involving that particular South Bristol side is no surprise at all. That club itself is banned from numerous club tournaments. The Somerset FA should be intervening. Nationally there is a respect problem. We can see at the zenith of the game officials being treated with contempt. Abuse of referees is approved of, ignored, part of the football. That culture of abuse is a contagen that infects the entire pyramid. Stamping out the culture of abuse starts from the top. All have a collective responsibility to the game. Its normal, not a joke. Some kids want to win, thats why they play, some want to be environments where they are challenged, some kids have differing needs (coaching and learning styles), some dont want to play with their less skilled mates .. The reaasons a child plays football are highly variable (intrinsic and extrinsic drivers). One local side wont fit all kids, and that applies to us the coaches. Leagues are linked to age related priorities. Up to U11 its fun and developing skill. The HML is structured in to leagues and that is a developmental necessity. The standards are widely different. There are clubs linked to football schools, or running their own (one has City coaches) that by their nature start at U7 with more skilled kids. Post U11 football is train to compete till U16 ..Theoretically.

There were abusers abusing children, and that is what these people are abusing children prior to covid, or a changing economy. The game was already losing thousands more refs than it recruited due to abuse and poor behaviour. Its been an increasing wide ranging problem for years. Politically we are ignoring it. Politically we dont ignore the abuse of pro players who are a tiny minority versus the long standing phenom nationally in grass roots football.

The Avon youth league has cancelled all U16 games across all divisions this Sunday due to poor behaviour including parents threatening players on the pitch.

How many teams in the championship, or at elite levels dont use hybrid systems? Those decisions are pragmatism.

The errors are collective. The errors and its multiple errors are the zonal markers are too deep and the lack of blocking and players goal side to effect runners. The scorer doesnt have to work that hard to score. If that zonal line (?) steps a metre the picture changes.

You wont be able to quantify that. Because the former can be used to protect the ball winners. Man marking takes the best headers out of the game. Some teams can block off the ball winners or mark them, which some teams called pinning. You dont defnd purely on marking man to man. It is relatively easy to combastv and create mismatches etc.

If Kalas doesn't intervene it's an easy catch. To say he should punch it with no opposition players are anywhere near is ludicrous. The player didnt catch it. He is entering a line, a high line and the outcome? The whys he should punch. Absolute nonsense. See 1960maan's photo posted a couple of posts below. Kalas and Martin were always going to get in each other's way. Scott might have too if he hadn't reacted to MOL's shout. The shape was fine.There were enough players to deal with ball. They did not need more, If the Keeper stays the opposition do not score.

You do not catch a ball when entering a line. The keeper should punch it. Why because of the variables and the result underlines it. Runners where not tracked and ball watching. The cross was superb. Starts compact and in a line, and leaves because of the Keeper going. The shape was fine v a straight ball until the keeper intervenes.

Check his feet. Double step before jumping means he cannot jump efficiently as he loses momentum, and that quells downward force to explode upwards. The keeper is entering a high line. Its not a straightfoward catch. He never gets high enough to use a straightforward catching technique (W). In traffic punch. The keeper should be cleaning all out, and he cant because of his feet. A question I would ask about this goal, as I did about the first. Why is there a spare unmarked man at the back/left hand post ? I'm not quite sure what your referring to.

Do I want my keeper interferiing with a high line? No. Do I want my keeper controlliing the space behind a high line? Yes. Two differing things. If the keeper stays at home the game is not lost. I could break down the technique used, the position of hands, the steps, and the lack of intensity x spring in the jump. The keeper failed. The game is lost. That in modern parlance is the outcome. Its a rubbish outcome.

Brave is subjective. Thats an intent. An approach, A principle of play. They are never wholly separate issues because the teams and individuals mindsets follows their confidence in their ability to carry out their tasks within the team intent and principles. Principles are bold. They are what the team ARE. The opening post highlighted a positive in City’s play. City do penetrate teams from low possession %. Possession is risked to play forwards quickly. That is bold and brave. So players are bold and brave at those tasks but not at others? The answer is frequently individual ability. Tactical is a how high is that line? Are lines always that high? Why could be the technical. City have not been controlling deeper lines either. Its very poor, a Lordy wtf was that moment, but it was different and I would expect emphasis in training to focus on roles -You control, that, you don't come out here and thats is your role there etc. There is a point here about episodic and periodized training feeding confidence but it will still go back to players abilities.