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How have Brighton or a Man City over complicated football? Brighton play in non complex pre trained patterns to simplify their game. Man City concentrate on elements of the game using principles to govern the variables = Simplifying a game that is complex and chaotic.

Max O 'leary distributes sweeps and joins in like Ederson. Our CB's step into midfield and play as easily as John Stones forming a box midfield. Our wing backs invert and play the full length of the pitch. Our pivots distribute the ball as effortlessly as Busquets or Rodri. Our Fodens and Dokus and Grealishes drive to release. Our Iniestas and Xavis play in the half spaces. Our Messi plays the false nine. Maybe people who think teams are trying to emulate Peps style are talking bollocks.

Yes. England generally find answers to the challenges virtually all opposition set them. England play in their defined methodical way established over a significant period of time and tournaments, qualifiers etc frequently needing to take time and patience in possession to overcome opponents. That is a team with world stars. Now Bristol City. Liam Manning doesn't have world stars. He also appears to be expected to find solutions in a extraordinary short period of time with minimal training time. Guardiola's and Klopp's had pre season and a season to not get their sides playing the football they wanted with squads of exceptional talent. Guardiolas and Klopp's teams were not instant.

U passing. England frequently struggle to break down teams that sit in and get compact conceding space only to the side or in front of a screening block, and the ball has to move in a U shaped pattern across the CB's to WB's. That is from a England team that plays with world stars in its midfield. Bristol City have?

Front foot football is a meaningless description. Pep Guardiloa's teams sit on the opposition with possession, playing positionally dominating territory in numerical overloading units looking to switch and reset utilising width and depth. As the team plays in patterns using numerical overloads when the ball is lost this provides opportunity to counter press in numbers aggressively further up the pitch. The team dominates in and out of possession. Is that front, or back foot football? Whats is this Manning Pep style of football? Pepe Guardiola doesn't have a style of football his team has an identity, clear playing principles, sub principles and a model of play. If Liam Manning can take over a team mid season install an identity, principles of play and a new playing model around the team playing twice a week, and three times a week with limited training time (no pre season), and with a squad of limited ability in two months he will be a coach surpassing Guardiola's standard!

Villa do play from a base of possession. The are consistently playing through the first two thirds of the pitch playing short to feet. A principle of Villas football is attempting to penetrate quickly in the final third from that base. This is possession football

Vila, play through the thirds, from a base of possession.

Villa frequently will play a short passing possession game. They approached nearly 700 passes v Sheffield Utd.

In regards to football there are numerous colour that could provide marginal gain. The colour black indicates strength, and this in theory could make an individual feel marginally stronger. Stripes horizontally make individuals larger rather than vertical stripes. Black horizontal stripes are eye catching hence why the colour black is used in underlining. Red and black is particularly eye catching, red top newspapers originally used their red tops to catch the eye. Black is an excellent choice for catching peripheral vision, and remaining rememberable . Watching Arsenal in a kit of flecks, and logos can make their yellow less eye catching, and it has. The purpose of much of what goes on a kit does not aid vision, that is not its purpose, what is being done for kits are no more than marketing gimmicks.

Check laws on where the ball hits the arm and on natural position. Its in the laws. I thinks its amazing that a man who is in charge of a team worth hundreds of millions, has a supportive network of coaches and analysts to support his football, and training that includes defending and where players position their arms doesn't know whats in law 12. There is the qualified expert for you. And a panel of these ex Manager ex player experts has been formed to cast judgement on refereeing standards. The stats they create? Suspect.

There are serious problems being caused by players, spectators and parents. Mirroring behaviour they see at the the games peak. It is a known and logical consequence. The FA not the PGMOL should be far harder on Managers undermining referees, encouraging abuse of refs and damaging the game. No. That may be a joke but as many decisions like corners, goal kicks and throw in's are not subjective and clear refs will get an overwhelming number of decisions correct. Yesterday saw Sean Dyche stating publicly he doesn't know the laws of the game , a decision was bizarre, he didn't think the handball was deliberate. Sean Dyche a Manager, an ex player, does not know a significant law of the game, handball does not need to be deliberate. Do the experts on the key match incident panel also have as much knowledge of the laws of the game to come to their 15% of decisions are wrong?

It is not odd. The route to from seven to four is a couple of years of displaying competency and earning the award to ref at higher levels. The top refs ARE the best of the best, they have displayed this over years and improved their skills to gain increments at 2a/2b. At level three refs get £50 a game, then at three levels higher a PGMOL ref can be paid 150k a season depending on performance. Top level refs are very fit. The PGMOL standard box to box(it mirrors the game) interval test will not be competed without a high level of fitness. If a ref cannot complete the test, they cannot ref at the top level.

The individual started refffing prior to 2010. Taking fifteen years plus to ref in the EPL is not unusual, and well fifteen year is not fast.

He played for Bath City under Paul Bodin, he is from Melksham and related to Fitzroy Simpson who did play a few games for City. Rebecca Welches fast tracking has taken fifteen years. She was also an elite EUFA women's referee

I coach so I don't see City as much as most here. The little I see so far is a team attempting to play positionally. Teams will stuff one up, its part of the process, it has to be expected, and this would also be considered about what occurs when error happens when going direct quickly, people frequently don't look at those errors in the same manner. Depends on the team - There are lots of variables. A Charles Hughes once put forward arguments v possession football. Yes a high number of goals are scored from less than 3 passes and counters. Using his methodology that was called the Winning formula Wimbledon were right Brazil and the Netherlands and Spain and Germany would be wrong. Your use of intent there. All passes have sake, some sake/point than others. Liverpool 79 - 85 dominated football with sideways, lots of backwards to kill games, quieten crowds and that was the intent in much of keeping the ball, resting in and defending in possession, turned out all right! Whats in the opening post, isn't warped, or frequently new at all

It really is not Robbo. Transition does not yield more goals than possession football. A team that can keep the ball for more than eight passes and play positionally is as likely to score as a team transitioning in a counter attack. Barcelona at their peak did both. Slow methodical build up meant that the team could keep numerous players around the ball to counter press when they lost possession and they would have numerical superiority and opposition out of shape.

Nigel Pearson insulted a ref. That is what his fine was for. The very best do this the Klopps and Guardiola's. Arteta insults and overtly criticises refs monthly. I know you know what definitions of abuse are, overt criticism and insulting an individual is abuse. The answer to your questions are in the FA' s rule E. Yes we all see Managers, making excuses for their own failings, projecting their failure onto others, creating victim narratives, demonstrating their lack of control. Managers have freedoms, they do not have the freedom to abuse referees. they can still express themselves within the rules for the leagues their team play within. In your post you said seeing Managers losing it was entertaining (Yes it sort of is ), but what are the consequences for the game? There is a connection between behaviours seen at the game zenith demonstrated by highly paid and well protected Managers, and the abuse and assault of referees throughout the game, what we see is mirrored and more through football.

Terry Coopers Bristol City used that kick off with a slight difference, the ball was deliberately put out of play by the corner flag for a throw in, and City would press the throw in. This was to create a impression on the opposition of being under pressure from kick off and set a tempo to the game.

The figures referred to in the thread - 85% of key decisions are correct. A figure reached by looking at a sample of decisions and a panel which includes individuals who are not expert referees, then vote upon decisions including subjective decisions whether they deem them to be correct.

It literally cannot be the same thing, the bodies are separate. A Manager can criticise a referee, but they cannot insult referees and bring the game into disrepute which is what Nigel Pearson did. Personally I think the FA is far to lenient towards Managers. Its a shame Managers feel so free to abuse referees and undermine authority from their protected positions. Managers receive paltry punishments while their behaviour has far reaching serious repercussions throughout football.

It is not within the PGMOL's power to gag or fine Managers. Fined by? The FA. Could you explain how these figures are calculated? I could not. Subjective decisions cannot have a unequivocal right.

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Refs do not get 15% of decisions wrong. What was studied here were key decisions, not all decisions. Amongst the study were subjective decisions because some laws of the game are subjective.

Could you highlight one game J?

Five years ago BCFC were sharing facilities at QEH, the academies base was portacabins at the WISE campus. City had some catching up to do. I have visited most of the pro clubs in the South and the West's training grounds due to coaching at development level and a son playing academy football. I have also visited Man City and Man Utds training grounds to watch my Son play. How does BCFC's training ground compare to Brighton's, or Southampton's, or Leicesters, or Wolves, or Man City, or Arsenal or Chelsea's or Spurs etc? The answer would be it is not on par with those facilities. It certainly not top tier like Man City or parallel to the Brighton's and Leicester's. Place Bristol City training facility in the third tier, modern, the highest standard of a club in the region of the South West and reflective of the clubs status, and its significant but not Premier league investment in training structure.