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1 minute ago, DaveF said:

Hes a pretty tidy footballer, decent with the ball at his feet and can pick a pass.

Cant defend very well though which is a bit of an issue at championship level. Guessing Pearson feels the same by dropping him today.

Dave give it a year or two and I absolutely guarantee Vyner will be playing for Motherwell or Hearts 

2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Fontaine played over 240 games for us & only lost his confidence in his last year with us, so it’s a really shit comparison, actually.

Yeah but was it confidence or did his ability decline? 

Because I'm not doubting LF was a useful player ... but time came when he wasn't and I think that's happening with vyner 

8 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

Liam Fontaine all over again. 

Great comparison.

Initially you might think it's down to confidence but actually the reality is the players level is Scotland. 

Just now, RedNachos said:

And how do you suggest we do that? Checked our finances recently? This reply is exactly my point

Don't be a ****, you know what I'm getting at. There will be free agents or low cost options better than Zac Vyner ..  I mean what the **** are we paying that cretin Danny Simpson for?

Hes not a scapegoat because that would be acknowledging he's someone that is misunderstood and blamed for things outside if his control.

Hes none of these things, including being a championship level defender, and should be replaced by someone of higher ability. 

We have no where near enough money and or quality to get promoted. What purpose does spouting this crap serve?

I will put every penny I own on that we wont be promoted to the Premier league in 5 years.

Not negative, I love the way we're going right now, but this is our level. 

22 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Today we played with 2 players who underperformed hugely, Vyner and O’Dowda, we can’t afford that against a team like Fulham.  We needed all 11 at it.  Other players got dragged around all over the place as a result.  Both had been doing ok of late (debate, discuss!).

Definitely some tactical issues on defensive corners too.  That didn’t help either.

But you are right, we have to go with some belief, jeez, we led twice, should’ve got a penalty having just gone 3-2 down…so not a forgone conclusion, even if a surprise.

I saw the notification  "davefevs has replied" and got defensive in my own head straight off the bat. 

However I agree with everything you say, weak links (from senior pros) really let us down today. 

We gave Fulham so much respect, and that team is 100% beatable with the right mindset. Unfortunately despite a good start I felt our team just gave up. 

I fear this team is sometimes beat before we star,t and we need to start getting a bit of fire up our arses. 

I also think our fans accept losses like this when actually there were points there today and we should have got 1 or 2. 

49 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

You mean like Blackburn, who lost 0 - 7 to Fulham AT HOME this year and are currently 3rd?

Those kind of worst teams in the league?

QPR (4th) who lost 4 - 1 to them?

Huddersfield (7th) who lost 5 - 1?

Shouldn't get dicked like that in any league. Kiddie beat Reading last week.

This attitude of, "Well its Fulham" needs to stop. We could have done them today if half the team had a brain. 

5 hours ago, old_eastender said:

Maybe, but Kallas is best playing alongside a strong CB, like when he partnered Webster. I'm hoping if Cundy can make the step-up and forge a partnership with Kallas that could bring out the best in both of them. 

For the money we paid for Kalas if he ain't the "strong" CB and a kid needs to step and help him, well he's a bust mate. 

Not having a pop at you but losing patience with Kalas, doesn't even get the armband. Needs to go I think 

Salary cap in the efl. And I'm 100% all in. 

22 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Pound for pound there's more sugar in a lemon than a strawberry.

I think Kalas is the least of our concerns to be honest... Consistently one of our best players.

Is that your party trick?

Cost a lot of money did Tomas, we leak goals for fun. I think CD is absolutely our concern as it's the reason we concede so many goals and lose so many games. 

1 hour ago, Magicseason said:

Good to see most of us a accept Fulham were a different class. We are work in progress and need to ship a few on but there are incouraging signs.

 

Keep the faith everyone

Only the worst teams in the league have taken that kind of hiding. Despite our "effort" we are still a poor team that loses more than it wins. 

1 minute ago, the1stknowle said:

Im not sure it's bollocks. Someone like Michael Smith would improve us all over the pitch I think But agree with the general point that the priority currently is to find solidity at other end of field. 

Youd have to think, given its pretty much nothing to lose as regards our defence, that Cundy will get a chance at some point. Really interested to see if he can step up. No idea - but he's risen to every level he's been pitched in at thus far so curious to see is he can take next step. Big ask given such a long injury. But commanding aerial centre back is what we need so the chance should be there for him to take.

I think if we are completely honest pound for pound Tomas Kalas has not been the player we thought he'd be 

Were a team that failure money clubs eat for breakfast. 

What worries me is that an Eastern European international Defender (Kalas) has been absolutely ruined by an Eastern European International Striker (Mitrovic) 

We don't need forwards, we need competent defenders and we have none. Kalas is proving to be an absolute bust. 

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Or perhaps the journo could prepare a differently worded question, or have a secondary more open question ready if he gets the type of response above.

You ask the right question, Nige will talk the hind legs off a donkey.

He’s laid out the ground rules enough times, e.g. don’t ask me about individual transfers, you’ll know when there’s something to announce.  Don’t ask me about my tactics for the upcoming game.

You can either try to work with him, build rapport, even ask him to perhaps not be so closed on certain things, or you can set yourself up for an interview where you glean nothing insightful.  How you then “sell” that back to your readers is your problem, not Nige’s.

You can see the ones who’ve built a good rapport with him, they get away with more than others.  Also be prepared that your killer question might’ve been asked by an earlier person.

I suspect Nige sees the Dave Barton media interview as his way of talking to the fans.

Whys he always do defensive? Comes across as a right dick sometimes 

1 hour ago, firstdivision said:

I'd say it's pretty tedious. He knows exactly what's behind the question - just decides to play the smart a**e.

He forgets he's really talking to the fans. Plays the man (the journalist) rather than the ball (the supporters, who just like a bit of info).

 

 

Agree. Tries to be the smart arse all the time, yeah the question is weak sometimes but just answer it. Thanks he's hard and it's actually quite boring. 

4 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I’m only relaying what he said when I spoke to him at AG when the press were located in the Williams Stand  as was.

Wasn't a pop at you, I believe you.

But he's lying. 

On the day of OTIBs 25th Anniversary (congratulations) there is another Anniversary on the same day and that is 6 years since we sacked Steve Cotterill. 

I had a Facebook memory and I went on something of a rant about it. I was pretty upset about the decision. 

I am well aware this debate has been done to ad nauseam (insert Alan Partidge Latin joke) but thinking about it today I cannot see how we have progressed since that day.

Worse team, no money, poor football, bottom end of the division. IMO the platform given from that great team was completely wasted.

I'm not saying he was the one, but I look back at that time as a supporter with immense fondness that has not been replicated (bar Man U/Man C) since. 

Thanks Steve

6 hours ago, Robbored said:

We’ve been saying that for years  - Andy Stockhausen always claimed that he never read otib……..….. 

That's bollocks he quoted me under my last username on more than one occasion 

The Post love this place its where they get all their leads, stories, quotes without having to do any actual work.

1 minute ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Quite harsh on Bamford who has done well the last few seasons. 

Feel like there's some weird bitterness going on here by the OP. Both Nketia and Bamford are way above our standard and if those kind of players are "average" that says more about us than them. 

Anyone thinking Nketia wouldn't be a massive for us is mental. 

Unfortunately way too good for us. 

Just now, TomF said:

4 years to the day we played there? 

@cidercity1987 4 years bro since we went to the etihad. In that time we've both had sons. Imagine if we'd won they'd have been called Bobby or Aden :laugh:  

Just now, petehinton said:

6 years on and CO’D still loves hitting a cross over the bar doesn’t he 

His lack of quality is infuriating 

39 minutes ago, Denbury Red said:

Total idiots!!

Feel sorry for the fans - floodgates likely to open now

Feel sorry for the fans? **** that 

Swindon til I die must be the most tragic football chant of all time