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1 hour ago, Never to the dark side said:

https://news.gwr.com/news/tapping-into-a-smarter-way-to-travel-in-swindon-and-the-stroud-valley-with-the-help-of-some-tap-dancers

I think you've added the wrong URL, this link is about the Swindon area 

3 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

If the figures are true and it was circa 8k middle of last week that would suggest quite a few sent a message that the club would do well to heed moving forwards. Taking fans money for granted only ends one way.

Do we know that this is a new trend? 

8 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

I think there is some points to be made here from the club's communications today.

They are obviously priotising POTD for next season. Hence the "South Stand sold out". It won't be sold out, just sold out to anyone buying STs. There will probably be 500+ free seats for the first game of the season for POTD punters.

Secondly, they are only offering a "limited" number of STs for the open sale market.

I think as a club we will be looking to cap ST sales at around 14k or so (not sure about H/T STs around Christmas). This will once again force more people to get memberships or go POTD.

The club has probably recognised that the missing STs and a certain number of the STs that do come are unlikely to spend as much in the shop/concessions as people doing the POTD trip down the gate experience.

I'm curious by a couple of your points, where are the club saying they are prioritising POTD? 

It's more beneficial to them to have the money in the account for the summer etc than sporadically getting different numbers per match. 

Again, you talk about capping season tickets, this isn't anything new every club has had to make a minimum number of tickets available to non ST holders for a long time. 

They certainly won't be capping them at a lower number than what we currently have sold this season. 

I'm confused by the last paragraph, how will those not attending spend any money? 

There's no evidence a ST holder spends more or less than someone who pays on the day 

2 hours ago, Andy082005 said:

A majority of people - If they really wanted to go - they would. My job has seriously impacted me in recent years but if I really wanted to get to games, I could 

And the football isn’t any worse. You are right. However I don’t think that’s why people are staying away. They are staying away because it’s not got any better and there has been nothing to suggest things will improve next year. People are sick of the constant bullshit and bluster that comes from Tinnion and Junior

They are both clueless and it’s been widely accepted that as long as those two cabbages are at the helm, we will never move above mid-table in this league 

I’m sure the “a true supporter would support never do that” brigade will be out in full force but **** them. Until people start speaking with their feet nothing will ever change - why would it?

 

Judging by sale being confirmed as over 12k today, it would seem people are happy with parting with their hard earned money 

1 hour ago, 1960maaan said:

With Season Card prices going up year on year, the games being moved around making it harder for some to plan games and some would be able to just watch at home ?
I can only see a negative impact.

EDIT;

Those fixture lists will be interesting. They will have everyone at 3pm on a Saturday to start , and we will have to wait until Sky feels fit to let us know when the games will actually take place. 

Not looking forward to it in that respect.

Sales confirmed as over 12k, there's not the impact so far 

That's incorrect, it's already been confirmed that when the fixture list is released it'll show all the TV slots up to FA Cup 3rd round weekend 

So basically up to the New Year's Day round of fixtures 

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Thought Gould was an excellent CEO. Marshall hard to say, spread thinly though he is.

Gavin Marshall is CEO of Bristol Sport not Bristol City who Richard Gould was CEO of 

5 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

did they mention the impact of the sky tv deal on fans attending games?

The brutal answer is that nobody really knows until the fixtures are published in June 

2 hours ago, eardun said:

I don’t have an issue with it either. What would be good though is if as some point City could launch a site where you could make your seat available to purchase by other fans when you can’t attend (as some other clubs do). Fans won’t always have a friend or family member who can go to the match concerned so the current forwarding option could not be used - a ticket exchange site would widen the pool of people who could take the seat. 

As I have touched on previously, there are ongoing discussions between the SC&T and club, these will ramp up over the coming weeks and months but will depend on the buy in from our board.

One of the items raised already is this

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

It will happen - but will only happen when games sell out constantly. From the clubs perspective they’ve sold your seat to you and have the money for it - they’d rather sell the other seats in the ground then have to resell yours (and possibly give you a cut)

In current discussions it has been raised that if if happens it will be from the point of being unavailable to attend the game

1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said:

I heard on The Price of Football recently, that one club were taking your season ticket back - or at least not allowing you to renew - if you missed three games.

If we ever get that arrogant I'm off. I don't care that we'd probably be in the Premier League for that to have a chance of happening.

That is likely to be a team that has a buyback scheme and "sells out" but has unused seats

I would say it is a good thing if someone doesn't attend but also doesn't offer their seat to be resold

13 hours ago, Andy082005 said:

As for the comparison to last year - again, its not really important but I just think it would give us a good idea on where the fan base are at when it comes to supporting the plebs that run this club 

or those that are aware of the chaotic fixture schedule ahead and are not buying because of that?

I still ask how people suddenly think the football is all of a sudden any worse than compared to the vast majority in the past

13 hours ago, frenchred said:

Why don't you?

Because meetings discuss sensitive and private information and not for me to disclose

1 hour ago, 22A said:

In Nat Lge N, I see Glos City are relegated. Which league will they play in next season please?

A few years ago Lowestoft made it to Nat Lge S, but when they were relegated a year or two later they were placed in a different one to which they had won promotion from.

Take your pick from one of these

This advice could save your life..... Or at least your ears 

I hadn't realised that he was managing so far down the pyramid 

Three play offs, three defeats 

Into a minimum of 4 added minutes at the end of the 120

Braintree just gone 1-0 against Bath in the 119th minute

TAKEN FROM : https://thefsa.org.uk/news/football-governance-bill-progresses-to-committee-stage/

Football Governance Bill progresses to committee stage

Posted on 23rd April 2024

Last month the Government announced it would launch legislation to introduce an Independent Football Regulator – and that legislation continued its progress through Parliament with its second reading today.

The FSA has backed an independent regulator for many years as the Premier League has proven time and again it is incapable of regulating its own clubs – as highlighted most famously by the European Super League debacle.

The regulator will prevent domestic clubs from entering such competitions, embed supporter consultation mechanisms within the game and protect club heritage items such as badges, kit colours and stadium locality. 

There was a broad cross-party consensus on those matters with many MPs making important points around protecting clubs from bad owners.

Culture secretary Lucy Frazer said: “Too many fans have been taken for granted, too many fans have seen their team’s owner change club badges and colours without any fan input, or seen their club sell their stadium and upsticks or try to join closed shop breakaway leagues.

“There have been 64 instances of clubs falling into administration since the Premier League was founded in 1992. Clearly, not all clubs are feeling the benefits of English football’s global success and something has to change.”

Shadow culture secretary Thangam Debbonaire welcomed the Bill and said the Labour Party was “absolutely committed to passing this bill into law and to making it work. It is a once in a generation chance to change the game.”

She also questioned the Government’s decision to define parachute payments as being outside the regulator’s remit – something which many MPs pointed out was a significant gap given the impact they have upon the game.

Clive Betts MP – chair of the Football APPG and a member of the FSA’s APPG for Football Supporters – described the Premier League as having a “veto” over the issue of parachute payments and called for this to be reviewed at the next stage of legislative scrutiny.

“Parachute payments are deliberately excluded from the remit of the regulator. Why has that been done when it is one of the most distortive elements of the current arrangements?” asked Betts.

Crouch reports

The final word goes to ex-sports minister Tracey Crouch MP, who chaired the Fan-led Review and namechecked the FSA’s role in Parliament today in bringing this legislation to fruition. 

“It is always important to remember that the Premier League asked the Government to intervene when six clubs sought to join the European Super League. The Fan-led Review was the outcome of that request from the Premier League – in preparation for this speech I reread their submission to the review,” said Crouch.

“They thought there could be use for an institution with the capacity to intervene should they manifestly have failed to uphold their rules. Their submission also went on to say, and I quote, ‘Such a body could also set the general principles required for standards for governance and transparency, including for financial regulation; could strengthen the independent operation of the Owner and Director Test; support the principles of standards for owners responsibilities as custodians, and protect decision making over key issues for fans.’

“This Bill is exactly all those things shaped brilliantly to reflect the words of the Premier League itself of what a great regulator could look like – and leaving many of us scratching our heads as to why they’ve spent the last few weeks lobbying to stop the Bill progressing.”

Next steps

The legislation will now enter committee stage where a detailed examination of the Football Governance Bill will take place. Amendments to the Bill can take place at this stage and the FSA will publish a list of proposed amendments soon, alongside some simple actions that supporters can take to ask that their MP supports these amendments.

The Bill itself does have a remit on football ownership, finance and supporter engagement – it was never set up to fix VAR, lower ticket prices, or stop TV messing around with fixtures – so we have to be realistic about what can be proposed. 

More on that to come soon – and we’ll need your support.

1 minute ago, Wedontplayinblue said:

@phantom with the data about season ticket holders not attending , the figure was given by the club to the senior reds meal, so I don’t see why you can’t mention it here. 

I'm not sure if it is the same data we're talking about. 

Just to clarify what I know is the % of adults, children and POTD tickets that did not not attend games

4 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

In the grand scheme of things, of course not. But it’s our club, it’s a matter that people are interested in for many reasons - firstly in that the number sold if down heavily indicates that there is more discontent in the fanbase than many say
 

And this season , the number sold in the South Stand - if decreasing markedly - may indicate that people were buying kids seats and not intending to attend. It’ll also confirm if that area may be a POTD hub.

I hate to say but it's not been our club for a very long time, we're nothing more than paying customers now 

I'd disagree people not renewing is solely about discontent - see my reply above 

As previously mentioned it wasn’t solely children's tickets not being used 

The advantage next season the cheapest seats in the ground will now be available POTD and not going to waste 

3 hours ago, Jeez said:

As it stands

6095 unsold + 4200 for the Atyeo plus whatever is held back for hospitality & South stand POTD

On that’s basis I reckon about 14k again wouldn’t be far off the mark.

Yes I was bored so counted them

I hate to say I wouldn't have wasted your time, you'll never be able to work it out that way

44 minutes ago, mozo said:

Yes because we can't jump on the narrative that the events of season have lost a big chunk of the fanbase.

Exactly that, I'd say more people wouldn't renew because of the uncertainty of our fixtures 

If people are simply not renewing because of crap football I'd ask who they think they're actually watching, and apart from a very small handful of seasons in the past 50 years when we did 

21 minutes ago, Ziderarmy said:

Anyone else having an issue with the tickets online, if I select free seasons to buy it then errors out saying “Series is not available for sale”

Are tickets back on sale yet? 

3 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

What an odd post 

Not really, why is it so important to you that you know how many season tickets have been sold months before the new season staers

53 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Eh? You’re bringing Pearson into a thread that has nothing to do with him, and it’s not the first time. 
 

You seem to see conspiracy theories everywhere….

Yet Duff, Johnson and Warnock were mentioned previously in the thread but you chose to react to Pearson

Right...... I'm off

I do wonder how many on here would have problems if their hard drives were looked into 

17 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

The silence on ticket sales to date is deafening. Really intrigued to see how many they have sold to date 

I know it is interesting to know how sales are going but does it really matter that we don't know?

59 minutes ago, Red Homer said:

Stupid FlashScores, said it was Sam Bell! And it looks like it was Raph Aroye that scored the OG!

Mods, delete the topic please!

To be fair to you it does show S. Bell

Just announced Chris Billam-Smith to have a rematch against Richard Riakporhe on June 15th at Selhurst Park, to be shown on Sky

1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said:

I'm assuming they didn't cut prices for their drop to the Championship - the 'perk' of selling season tickets before the season ends.

No

The other thing I am surprised nobody has commented on is the cost of £25 to keep a physical card after the fall out we had last year