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Derby_Ram

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  1. Personally my email to my MP did mention the Tracey Crouch review on the basis that having something relevant an MP could link it to would do no harm. Others have taken a different approach in that whilst that is vital, in the here-and-now it is a specific issue to fix with time of the essence. However you'll find that most fans are on board with it. I think anyone can drive a horse and cart through the EFLs rules. MM did by selling the stadium to himself and then rules get updated post the event to close a loophole. I also don't believe the EFL have updated their own rules post the Corporate Insolvency and Governance Act and not everything within them fits the original purpose. I hate the prospect of a cross class cram down, and pray it becomes the last resort if the only alternative is liquidation, but if in the case the EFL blocks something a court has approved and other creditors support; what prevails? I don't want to go down that route but if further emphasises the need for an EFL which is fit for purpose. To reply to the question of Wycombe - again the people I have sympathy for are the fans who haven't witnessed them in the Championship. As for the actual claim I personally don't have that much sympathy with it and feel we risk opening a Pandora's box: as a club we screwed up but a process got followed and we had our points deducted. This season. Did MM/Pearce mess around with delaying accounts? Yes. But also go back to the original EFL case which saw delays due to claims from of other clubs frivilous claims (Boro). So we cheated but not in a year WW were in the same division and our penalty was applied once due process had been followed. Impossible to prove but had we already have had points deducted I am sure last day of the season we'd have lost rather than scraping a draw. In that instance Wednesday would have stopped up so should they raise a claim too?! Finally on the claims by other clubs - where does it stop? We lost in the Play-off final to QPR who failed FFP. Does this give Derby the right to recompense? Or Wigan who lost to QPR in the semi? What about the team that finished 7th and maybe could have got in the play-offs at QPRs expense? I don't know and for that reason primarily I personally think the club gets punished with their fines, pounts deductions, embargos or whatever but other clubs can't them claim. Whichever side of the fence you come down with on that on they'll be valid opposite viewpoints.
  2. Afternoon all There's a few other clubs forums I enjoy reading - this one in particular - and huge amounts in this thread are accurate. As a Derby fan it's been a sobering time recently and the reality is whilst a great escape would be something we'd look back on for ever most of us just want a club, our club, to support next season. The one bit I would like to correct - or clarify - is the vast amount of Derby fans do accept that Mel Morris is the reason behind the mess and could fix all this in two strokes: paying the HMRC and indemnifying any new owner against any claim by Boro or Wycombe. Yes, you do still get people on twitter or some message boards who think the sun shines out of his backside but to say all our ire is directed at the EFL and not him (or Stephen Pearce our CFO who is still employed during admin) is inaccurate. There are more chants and abuse aimed at those two at games than the EFL. Where we have an issue with the EFL (or maybe it's with Quantuma) is that the EFL and admins are releasing contradictory stories and for us it's vital our MPs or some other entirely independent body so we can flush out the real position and what needs doing (assuming MM doesn't do the decent thing. If anyone knows where he is please do share!). There is a distrust of the EFL amongst fans which I do think is fair based on past events but ultimately we just want to know how we break the impasse between EFL/admins and will fight and engage whoever we can to do it. As a club we ****** up. Our owner ****** up and the vast majority of fans went along for the ride. We've been punished so far. We need to exit admin correctly which will entail further hardships. But above all we just want a club next season. So yeah it's a cathartic experience reading the thread but please don't think that the fans at the game are blaming anyone other than MM for this. We are. We also know though that in his continued absence and abdication we need the support of the EFL to survive.
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