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I'd rather Bernard Manning. Apart from him being dead but let's not dig up the past. (apologies, I've been depressed and listening to The Smiths on a loop since Sunday afternoon).

I live a few miles from you. The train to Southampton is an @rse ache. Usually about 3 hours at least one change. What time do the trains run until coming back?

Let's face it. Whoever it is and whoever the assistant or coaching team is. It will polarise the fanbase. The main reason being there are no standout candidates apart from NP and they and he would never have that. And so, my long suffering fellow City fans. We will ultimately, accept whoever the new incumbents are and get behind the team. It's what we do and I can't see that changing unless the hierarchy go full Nuclear and make a Pulis type of appointment.

That may be true. However, lets have some context with those Stats. I won't go over the same facts that so many have posted on here since Sunday. However, you can't compare a 63 game ratio versus NP's ratio without acknowledging the sh!t show NP inherited. It's nothing short of brilliant work to get the 32% ratio under those circumstances. We will never know what that ratio would be looking like if he was allowed to have finished off the work that he had done to date i.e. at the end of a contract extension.

*When a new manager is rumoured, you can frame any set of pros and cons to suit your argument, but none of us know how they will do. Some click, some don’t. I've copied and pasted your last sentence above Fevs. I totally agree but even agreeing with this it just shows how much of a gamble and massive (wrong IMO) decision it was to sack NP. So we are banking in the hierarchy at the club to firstly, make the right choice of Manager or Head Coach. Then once they have done that, make the right choices moving forward to back it all up. I'm sorry but it is too much of a leap of faith for me to think they will do any of these things.

As I said. You, they and anyone can talk about wanting to get to the Prem. Talk is cheap. Very cheap in the case of the Board, JL and Tinns. They haven't been clear about it, they have just talked about it. The action you speak of has nothing to to do with action to get in to the Prem. The action was taken because they didn't find NP to their liking because he knew and knows that this lot are clueless. 5 Pillars !!! I think I need to log off for a while before I start posting stuff that I will regret!

Of course we all have our points of view, it's the whole purpose of OTIB. How on earth can anyone hold the view that we are 'gunning for the Prem'. That just isn't true. Saying it doesn't make it true. There are no indicators of gunning for the Prem. None. 'Board wanted more'. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. If the Board wanted more then back your Manager not throw him to the dogs. We were doing just fine and I think it was only going to get better under NP. We didn't need anyone else but now we need to replace him and I can't see any upgrade on NP. The Board should be taking the heat for this and they aren't. We are starting from square one or worse. The only way that isn't the case is if they recruit from within i.e. someone who already knows the club ethos. God forbid that happens because what we have within is just a disaster waiting to happen.

Cidercit1987 you are giving this lot far too much credit! There is no way they would have ever thought about that.

I remember NP saying most of this recently i.e. within the last couple of weeks. So if all of this was already happening and over 2 years in to that work. Why then start again with somebody that hasn't got a clue about the ethos of the club. whichever way this is dressed up, it is complete rubbish.

Just not as Head Coach. It's the type of left field appointment that the hierarchy could make!

I'm sure Mark Ashton could give him details of some of the courses that he has attended.

I won't regurgitate my previous posts since Sunday, suffice to say I and most on here are furious. However, I would have had some respect (just some) for Jon Lansdown if he had done a video and said something like: We knew NP was very popular and respected by City fans but we probably underestimated this and the level he was regarded at. It was a difficult decision but we feel at this time that short term pain will mean that we get to where we want to be. He could have acknowledged the work NP did across all age groups and the mentality within those age groups. Acknowledged that its a better place than it was when he arrived. There are loads of things he could've and should've said but he didn't. He has just skipped over NP as if he was never here! Show some empathy, show some class, show some balls, give credit where credit is due. 2 days after sacking NP and that was the best he / they could muster! Even give the above, I still don't think he can square this circle because whatever happens next in this car crash of events I can only see this getting worse.

Whoa there Jon. So everything you are after in a new Coach / Manager is what you already had in NP. Makes no sense because whoever is on your list won't be anywhere near as good as NP. In addition, whoever that man is, he will have to start all over again. Not withstanding that they will probably want to bring their own players in (not sure where the money for that will come from). That will take time and we've heard it all before i.e. 2 / 3 transfer windows etc, etc. We aren't back to square one we are in a worse place than that. Instead of trying to blow smoke up our asses about getting behind the team and being great supporters. Tell us why we should believe in him and the hierarchy. Tell us specifically why NP is not the right man for the job. Tell us why we have to go backwards and start all over again. Tell us why we can't even fill our bench v Cardiff and what the plans are to ensure that doesn't happen again in the future. I could go on and on but that 2 minutes of video only confirms what he and SL are. Which is inept.

The problem I have is that I don't care about any of the names that have been mentioned and that includes Rowett. Not one single name on the list is even close to being a better manager than NP. Not even remotely close.

Awesome. (sarcasm doesn't come across well in typing form). Hands up who remembers the long and extensive search for a Manager before and then we ended up with Dean f@cking Holden. Lovely human being. Great at filling water bottles and picking up the cones. Should neve be anywhere near the Manager's job. I fear that we will end up with someone of a similar ilk. God I hate Modays at the best of times but today is a whole different level.

I've tried to stay off OTIB since I heard the news about NP. The reason being that I was so f@cking angry that I may post something that I would regret 'as the dust settles'. However, I'm still absolutely livid. I'm old enough to have been around watching us in 1976 and then being relegated all the way to the bottom of Div 4 but I've never felt like a feel now. I've just seen the list of potential managers to replace NP. I'm now feeling even worse! Nobody is going to convince me that anyone on that list is even close to being a better option than NP. Just when I thought that I could never be surprised at how inept the hierarchy could be. They have gone and proved me wrong. Again.

How about Jaily Barton to QPR? Perhaps this is why he was trying to get sacked? Ainsworth must be on his way out soon? As far as the webtooed brigade is concerned, I hope they get someone in that will be another Gift that keeps on giving.

EDIT: It is pronounced: Skelington

Nooooooooooooooo !!!! We want you to stay, we want you to staaaayyyyyy Jaily Barton we want you to stay!

A little bit of context here. It isn't just the 2 loses in a row. The blokes shouting at Rooney are still upset from when Rooney was firing in to their Nan.

4 Cocks in a Car. Sounds like an old Punk Band from the late 70's.

I haven't seen the 'highlights' but I listened to the Jaily Barton interview. The bloke is unhinged isn't he? Apart from the 'fat weeble' remark. he had the temerity to go on about Evans and his 'effing and jeffing'! It also seems that he expects a penalty and or a sending off is needed / warranted to win a football match. The bloke is a fraud and a blight on football at any level. Suffice to say, I hope he stays at R@vers for a long time to come!

I guess we could be barking up the wrong tree. However, I don't think we have been. In any case, if there were any lingering doubts for the hierarchy as to where the overwhelming majority of the fans stand. Then it has been worth the 42 pages.

Absolutely, but maybe Tom as a go between / mediator may be the best way for SL to see sense and or not lose face. Even SL must've seen or at least heard the overwhelming level of support for NP.

I've just watched the Presser for the Ipswich game. NP talks so well. That is all well and good but it isn't just talk. The bloke knows what he is talking about and more importantly he backs it up. I also feel a little more positive following the gloomy comments regarding NP's future. Let's face it, the problem is not NP it is the 'hierarchy'. Hopefully. Tom can be the one that brings the hierarchy to their senses. Give NP what he wants by way of a contract and start some serious and informative dialogue with us as long suffering supporters.