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handsofclay

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  1. When the very big clubs, such as Liverpool, are mentioned in regards to Scott it's not how they operate. It's the middle to struggling Premier League sides that cough up the dough to take on rising talent with no previous Prem experience. A mate of mine made a good point to illustrate this the other day. Virgil van Dijik was superb for Celtic and went to Southampton for £13M. Yet Liverpool knew of him at the time and how good he was but weren't interested. Then with a couple of years Prem experience under his belt they splashed out £75M. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Scott end up at one of the top clubs in the country for £60M plus in two or three years but via the stepping stone of a West Ham, Wolves or Bournemouth first. Therefore, it is essential that City add a sell on percentage even if it's only 15% as that could add £6M to say an upfront fee of £22M now.
  2. I respect your views as most of you respect mine which I appreciate. I have the new shirt and am happy with it's look, quality and availability. I also like the new variation on the robin badge. As has been said, ultimately the club will base any decisions regarding new badges, shirts etc on sales. My guess is that sales will tell a different story to the narrative on this thread.
  3. Sorry didn't realise the thread was restricted to those who agree with you. Sorry too that you consider my response strange and angry. When I first supported Bristol City we wore a red top, red shorts, red socks. Went to a sports outfitters near the London Inn to get the kit for my 8th birthday. That's what my mother was given and then the storekeeper opened a drawer full of badges and fetched out the Bristol City one for my mum to sew on. The following year I wanted an England kit. Went to the same shop and was given a white shirt, blue shorts and white socks and an England, three lions badge, to sew on. My point, which you disparagingly call a strange (X2) angry little response is that these basic kits meant the world to me because they were the kits of the teams I loved. When Bristol City took to the Ashton Gate pitch on a balmy August Tuesday night in 1976 against Stoke City for the first home top flight game since 1911 I cheered my heart out. I was as proud as punch and we had won at Arsenal three days earlier. I didn't suddenly temper my enthusiasm and comment upon the fact I didn't like the new umbro diamonds on the sleeves. Basically, I am saying that I don't understand those of you who get so hung up about what Bristol City wear. It's so namby pamby. Sorry. In all the years I have supported City I cannot think of one instance where I have heard that a player has turned us down for a potential move because he didn't like the shade of our third kit or the collar of our home shirt. Maybe as succeeding generations become even more namby pamby this will be an inevitability and a manager might one day be sacked because he advocated a red 1.2 cm trim on the white shorts which proved to be highly unpopular. At a rough estimate I would say that I regularly talk to 20 Bristol City fans every week. Out of those 21 supporters, including myself, I am the only one who posts on here. About 6 or 7 read this forum but don't post and one other posts very occasionally. Thus I questioned your assertion that the majority of supporters don't like the Bristol City kit based on this thread containing the repeated views of several supporters who wouldn't even constitute a majority on OTIB let alone a majority of Bristol City fans in general. I cannot understand what is strange (X2) and angry about debusing you of that illusion
  4. Rubbish The 59 page thread consists of several fans making multiple posts (moans). As far as the majority of fans don't make me laugh. You are a HANDFUL of fans on social media. Next season at Ashton Gate see how many fans at the ground are wearing the new kit and then tell me it's the majority of fans. Christ, get a grip and stop over inflating your own importance.
  5. Sorry but I have to say this: Who cares what the #### we wear. I couldn't give a toss if we are sporting red g strings with a badge featuring a constipated robin trying and failing to have a bowel movement as long as we win 4-0 at Leicester. I couldn't give a toss if we are wearing a washed out yellow shirt with a splat robin with vibrant yellow socks that don't match as long as we beat Southampton at St Mary's six bloody nil. Christ, I cannot imagine if social media existed in 1909 and Bristol City displayed their choice of BLUE change kit for the FA CUP FINAL that Edwardian City fans (several just a handful of years from meeting their deaths in the trenches) would've been up in arms about this choice of colour and threatening not to attend at the Crystal Palace to cheer on the lads and casting aspersions at the director they considered responsible. Jeez, get a life. We are Bristol City. We are a football club. We are not a bunch of Mary Quants.
  6. I remember having fun with him on here. He came across as being a nice guy with a fantastic sense of humour. My condolences to his family and all who know him. RIP.
  7. As Mark Twain once advised: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level then win through experience.
  8. Still remember his two goals to beat Liverpool in 1977 at Ashton Gate a few days later Liverpool won the European Cup for the first time. Plus the goal that beat Man City from a clever free kick routine after they'd been unbeaten for 17 matches. Back then that was quite a streak for them. Without his goals having returned to us from Chelsea, via Leicester, we would have only lasted one season in our second top flight spell. A City Legend. RIP.
  9. Great story but it couldn't have been the Evening Post as the first edition of that was in 1932. Unless it contained a reprint of the report from one of the local papers such as The Bristol Times & Mirror or Western Daily Press from 1909 to mark the 25th anniversary of the match in 1934. As I remember when studying local papers from 1934 that the 25th anniversary was being celebrated with, for instance, adverts publicizing a show in which the film of the 1909 cup final was shown. Before anyone asks what happened to this film it was a victim of the Bristol Blitz when the records office was hit. I would've thought that Manchester would also have held a copy but that obviously didn't survive either. Nitrate film, which was highly flammable and also prone to suddenly explode if not kept in the right conditions over a period of time, was the film of choice in Edwardian times and into the 1920s. Film that survives from that time has been carefully preserved and copied onto safer stock.
  10. Actually I think we went two up then four two down and got two very late goals to draw 4-4. Then lost the replay 3-0. We were top flight (Div 1) and they were Div 3. Their striker was a player called Dixie O'Neill. Actually it was Dixie McNeill
  11. 22 points for me, but didn't answer the two questions about Lee Johnson and Hibs. Worryingly, I scored heavily on questions regarding other teams (including the Gas)and old boys with 13 out of 22 but only got 9 out of 32 on Bristol City!
  12. Just like England played to the rules during the Bodyline series of 1932-33, that prompted telegrams from the Australian Government to their British counterparts calling England (MCC) 'Unsportsmanlike'. Douglas Jardine's leg theory to nullify Bradman was sharp good cricket and it definitely wasn't Gentlemen v Players back then either, but upon their return to England after successfully regaining the Ashes, all within the rules of the time, Jardine was relieved of the captaincy and Harold Larwood, the fastest bowler in the world was never picked for England again!
  13. Anderson was poor at Edgbaston and isn't much better at Lord's despite more favourable conditions. Dare I suggest at 40 age has finally caught up with him. England are still well in this game as I am sure the Aussies were so impressed by England's first innings declaration at Edgbaston with centurion Root still in bat that they'll be looking to do the same instead of batting England out of the game.
  14. I have the 75-76 shirt and it's excellent. Got the 76-80 home and away shirts on Toffs and you are quite right about the home one. It was shiny and not like the original material at all, different feel and look. So I cut my losses and sold it on eBay.
  15. I had a feeling that this season we are really going places. Now the fixture list is out I can see we are going 23 places at least, 24 if Ashton Gate is included.
  16. Back to Scott Parker, I would really like him to manage us one day as it would mean we had just been relegated from the Premier League and had millions to spend due to parachute payments.
  17. It won't be announced until late afternoon on June 17th, so the Norwegians will think he is on a roof in Bristol.
  18. I remember watching The Big Match when City made their glorious return to the top flight in August 1976 and when Geoff Merrick led the team out onto the pitch at Highbury Brian Moore said 'It's been 65 years since Bristol City were last in Division One.' I recall thinking what a bloody long time that was. Yet it is now 43 years since we were last in the top flight. It's very close to the 65 years. Indeed, the 65 years, 1911-1976 included the two world wars when the Football League was suspended, so really that's about 54 seasons it took City to regain top flight status. So we have about 11 seasons to get promoted to the Prem before this current stretch will be longer than that incredibly long 65 years!
  19. No but it would explain the subsequent outcomes from an England perspective if it was.
  20. Despite all the flack Owen gets on here for those penalty misses in 87, he must've had some talents as far as spot-kicks were concerned as England hired him as the penalty specialist coach for both the 1990 World Cup and 1996 Euros.
  21. Joe Jordan from Morton (via Leeds, Man Utd, AC Milan, Verona and Southampton).
  22. Interesting as well that he also said that the player outgoings in the January transfer window were just as important to the atmosphere etc being created at the club as those they brought in.
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