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Carey and Taylor, yes. Flint a definite no. Didn't organise just slagged those who made mistakes. Agree about Kalas. Almost every promotion team in the past, had good leaders. Jack White, Jack Connor, Geoff Merrick, Rob Newman.

Thread title "How safe are we?" One of the three bottom teams need to win : Derby 6 from 10 Barnsley 6 from 12 Peterborough 7 from 12. That assumes we lose all of our remaining 10 games. Mathematically possible but even for a pessimist like me, extremely unlikely.

When I lived in Scotland for a couple of years, apart from coming to all City home and plenty away in the North, I watched a game up there every free weekend. One time I went to watch Dunfermline at hone to St Johnstone. I sat in a stand behind the goal and chatted as always with everyone within ear's reach. Saints right back scored the first goal, a thirty yard screamer and I stood up to applaud him. And was quickly told by all the laughing Dunfermline fans near me to sit down, keep quiet and enjoy the rest of the match.

What age? Did he work in Colodense in West St in the 1970's? If so I knew him then.

I wonder why or more accurately, who?

A dreadful imitation of a football match. A decent performance by Borehamwood but if Everton do finish in bottom three, I wouldn't put money on them staying up in the Championship next season.

Or a nicer club! Funded by oligarch money stolen from the Russian population!

I've seen them hammering us 5-0 in League Cup. Ball, Royle, and a host of great players. The first one I saw was an FA Cup at Goodison in 1956. Lost 3-0 if memory correct. Then four home games in First Division 76-80. I can't remember us ever beating them.

I don't know the answer to that but I do know that NP has had the courage to give the under 23's chances to learn, improve and bring a team spirit that has been missing for too long. Whether we continue in the same vein remains to be seen. I'm guessing a big yes.

All I can say is that for a midfielder who has only two goal assists and zero goals scored in 100 games, he is being given very little abuse for a whopping mistake that led to their winner. There are a couple of other City players who would have been hung, drawn and quartered by 22.00 hours yesterday evening. Personally, if we have to sell in the summer to avoid FFP points deduction in the next two seasons it would be au revoir to him.

For once, there isn't anything I can add to previous comments. At last we have a proper football manager, who organises the playing side from top to bottom, includes Academy and young pros with the first team squad so that everyone believes that they belong to the club, not like Cam Pring and probably plenty of others, at the time of Pearson's arrival. We have a football team again that tries to win and entertain.

Happening a lot lately. Against Reading we had 26 fouls against their 5. Dives clearly do not count as fouls.

In no particular order. Gillies v Leeds Tinnion v Liverpool Cheesley v Arsenal Sweeney v WBA Mabbutt v Man U Atyeo. Any one of 350! Hirst v Gas

I feel the same way; takes me back to the way we felt as AD brought the young ones in around 1970. After four seasons of fighting relegation, it was like a massive breath of fresh air. Now with a manager who has been there and done it getting Leicester up to the Prem and some exciting Academy and young recruits with talent and a determination to succeed, I look forward again to every match because the desire is there again.

I like their humour. Still I suppose one needs a giant sense of humour living in a shithole like Middlesbrough. I went to a friends house recently and his wife lived there for two years. So we had a game ti see which was the worst between Boro, Newport (South Wales) and Stoke. Boro a close second to Newport!

@Mr Popodopolous @Davefevs Have we had any income from the use of the stadium for Covid Vaccinations that will help to reduce the losses?

Oh boy, what a screamer! About time we got back up there to hammer ? European Champions League winners in the Premier League.

Thanks very much for your thread. I was going to start a similar one today as I considered Williams was very good in the holding midfield role. A job that allows the energetic ones like Massengo and Scott to do most of the running. A role that covered the central defenders. A massive unheralded contribution to the win.

In terms of experience at this level, he is very much a promising youngster. Let me give a very good example from the past that shows there are many who develop much later than an eighteen year superstar. Gordon Parr, one of the best defenders I've seen at City made his debut at 20 years. But played only a couple of games in the next five years before becoming an automatic selection for the next ten years. So don't give up on any twenty five year old. Cundy and Vyner to name two.

OK let's all dwell on the negatives and to hell with the positives!

I am stunned at how little some of our contributors understand about the game and how difficult it is for young players to break into a first team at all levels of the game. They will be the inconsistent for a couple of seasons or three for no apparent reason. Semenyo was a good example today. Scored a goal and assisted in a second. But the sparkle was missing at times. So what? Since he returned from injury in November /December he has been one of the sparks that have helped to rebuild our team. Along with all the other young ones, who are breathing new life into the team and club. O'Leary, Tanner, Atkinson, Pring , Massengo, Scott, Benarous and others. Didn't Sam Bell do a tidy job for an hour? We are on the way back and upwards.

Is it a rental in the accepted sense (like renting a house) or the costs that we would have incurred that are now done by Bristol Sport - former employees of City now employed by Bristol Sport to maintain stadium, ticket sales etc. I assume that EFL FFP rules will not allow a club to avoid these costs?

I believe that you are incorrect about City paying rent to play at Ashton Gate. Before the advent of "Bristol Sport", City were the only club using the stadium. Thus all the ancillary services like stadium/pitch maintenance, ticket sales, refreshments, stewarding etc, were done by employees of BCFC. But now all these functions are carried out by employees of Bristol Sport. Bristol City FC make a contribution to cover their share of these costs. As do Bristol Bears and probably Flyers basketball. So we almost certainly, pay less for this than we would have if we were still the only team using the stadium. And because of the significant increase in income from sales, City are benefitting much more than they did. Income from hospitality is considerably more than it was before the stadium rebuild. So to claim a negative that we pay rent to play at our stadium is incorrect. I also suspect that because FFP for EFL Clubs and Rugby Salary Cap rules are so different, that we get a significant, larger share of share of hospitality income than Bears. The fact that the stadium is owned by Bristol City Holdings, a non trading company set up by Des Williams board after the 1982 fiasco, to ensure that never again would there be a risk of losing it via bankruptcy, I know that SL is the major shareholder in all things City, Bears, Flyers and any others so he "owns" the stadium but it is still separate from any other company that uses the stadium. PS. If any if the financial wizards on this Forum believe that the above fact are wrong, I'm very happy to be corrected

What a complete plonker we have as a chairman!

As you say @IAmNick we've not had a settled team at all, apart from the front three since Semenyo returned from injury. As for defending, I have an opinion that our major problem is that we have neither a centre half nor central midfielder who are "Organisers". In fact if you think back ten to fifteen years, we haven't had such a person in the back line since Louis Carey and only two or three in midfield with Marvin Elliott, Wade Elliott and Brownhill. Don't get me wrong, we've had dominant defenders like Flint and Kallas but both are " Doers" not leaders. And decent midfielders but again no leaders. Recent signings are young ones with potential. But does anyone know what Massengo will do when he gets the ball? Not criticism, just how I see him. He's still only young and will improve We still have four or five in the squad who are sucking the life out of us with an annual total pay package of around £5 million. Until we can sort that out, we'll continue to struggle to find consistency with the number of young ones doing their best and making costly mistakes.