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9 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

Reading the story of the Bury collapse is no cause for celebration for Rovers. The rescue failed because of a loan charge secured against Gigg Lane. Short of ‘Doing a Derby’, Rovers fans really have no cause to High-Six each other. Sounds to me an AWFUL lot like their situation. 

And as I understand something like £3.5 m was borrowed by Stewart Day with %40 used on a consultancy fee (Not specified to whom but I’m assuming Day) And only a few hundred thousand £ found its way into the football club itself.

Many people would scream No

But Simon Jordan is the man the EFL should employ as their head

8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Didn't realise myself either- would have assumed they have a reasonable wage policy, parachute payments, surely wrote in wage reductions a club of their size/relative expectations! All seems a bit of a puzzle...

Solvency wise, unsure about Stoke facing problems- Coates owner of Bet365 and from Stoke, pretty sure he is a Stoke fan too and has been chairman through worse times- FFP wise 100% problems.  Yes some poor decisions last few seasons but he seems one of the best owners around overall IMO- for as long as the Coates family retain an interest (financial and actual) in Stoke, I don't see them having insolvency issues.

Agree on the crazy wages , clearly a gamble to go straight back up? Will look into that article later, sounds interesting- I remember reading that Allen didn't get a cut, wasn't aware of anyone else.  Would help to explain some of their current travails, seen Stoke described as 'toxic' right now quite a few times and this is probably a large part of the reason why?

Former Stoke City coach Kevin Phillips has claimed some players retained their Premier League wages after relegation, a decision which he believes damaged morale at the club. 

Phillips , the former Sunderland, Southampton and West Brom striker, was part of Gary Rowett’s backroom team at Stoke until the manager was sacked in January following a difficult eight months at the club. 

But during a discussion on BBC Radio 5 Live about the problems facing team when they are relegated, Phillips said it was something he had seen at Stoke City last summer

He explained: “In terms of pay when teams come down, where players are having 40 per cent to 50 per cent cuts in their wages, we experienced this at Stoke.

“Straight away there was a rift within the squad because three or four players were put straight back on their Premier League contracts just to keep them at the club for this season.

“But there were other players who were not given their Premier League money, so straight away you’re fighting battles behind the scenes. And it doesn’t help the squad, it doesn’t you as a manager or a coaching staff to get that cohesion on the pitch, that camaraderie, that togetherness you need to be a success.”

In the weeks after Stoke dropped out of the top-flight, both Joe Allen and Moritz Bauer signed new deals, although it is unknown whether the contracts restored their top-flight terms. 

When asked to repeat his claim about player wages at Stoke, Philips said: “From what I believe that is the case, but you’ve got to be very careful about the way you structure deals for these players.

“From our point of view, if you are going to do it with three or four players then you have to do it with the majority of the squad to keep that morale and cohesion you need in the squad.”

Stoke finished a troubled first season back in the Championship after a decade as a top-flight club in 16th place.”

Here’s some of their (alleged) wages last season 

1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Apparently Bolton only needed one signatory of one of the parties to finalise the takeover deal as of last Friday.

Then, over the weekend that signatory asked for £250k just to put their name to the deal.

Where does this greed come from? I really despair sometimes at what our society has become. 

For those asking why Bolton are getting 14 days, I assume it's because they are very close to a deal and also because in the meantime they are at least fulfilling their fixtures. Bury had missed six fixtures and it was becoming unrealistic for them to fit those rearranged fixtures into a condensed season. 

That will be Anderson then as his solicitors were the only ones they were waiting for on Friday

******* Snake

Him and that piece of **** Dale should be burnt at the stake

Criminals in a businessman’s guise

6 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Something needs to be done…and quickly. I don't want the club to be bulldozed because of some lazy, incompetent bureaucracy 

I have absolutely no knowledge or understanding of company business , CVAs , Liquidation , purchasing debt etc 

But reading those who do , on here , and listening to pieces on radio and in press etc I would say if some criminal conduct has not gone on it must run very close

Also , The fact that the EFL are obliged to check funding of new owner within 10 days of taking ownership and yet still havnt done so with Dale 8/9 months later is incredible 

7 minutes ago, daored said:

Can add Huddersfield to the list as well, if what I’ve been told is correct 

Blimey didn’t realise their was any problems there

5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I had a pretty bad feeling looking from the outside about their new owner who brought them this summer, once Hoyle sold up- due to ill health or whatever.

I Missed that too

If I had a hunch on a bigger club it would be Stoke

When you see the wages they were dishing out - crazy

And they gave Bauer and Joe Allen new 5 year contracts when they were relegated from the prem

Theres an interesting piece by Kevin Phillips where he explains that Stoke gave some players Bauer and Allen incl new contracts on relegation to stop them pushing to leave , as said players were very unhappy that their wages were due to drop due to relegation clauses !

Phillips indicated that immediately you had a mix of relegated players many of whom were unhappy that some had been given a pay boost with them left on reduced wages

One of the guys who helped save them some years back, Ian Harrup ,  a lifelong (50+ years) Bury fan was in a state on radio last night Poor bloke

He claimed that the going ons at Bury were being looked at by the Serious Fraud Office 

Was this Just him emotional or , (hopefully) is there some truth in this ?

Hes also vowed to finance forensic accountants to expose what’s gone on 

I hope he does 

Every time this clown returns I keep thinking of 

7 minutes ago, Robin1988 said:

I know what you mean but at this point what more could they do? The club can't fulfil it's league fixtures, had no financial prospects and even prospective owners didn't want anything to do with the club once they got close.

The EFL just shouldn't have let this charlatan take over the club in the first place. If he was the "successful businessman" he touted himself as why did he leave a string of dissolved companies in his wake, and more importantly where did the money go?

This is what I was aiming at tbh and their total lack of backbone when it comes to regulation

EFL frightened to death about legal action from other L1 Clubs

Useless organisation

3 minutes ago, Gas Go Marching In said:

Yes I remember it ******* up your promotion bid alright. Completely self imploded after that game. I think that one was just before you got thrashed 5-0 by someone?

This is a whoosh right 

The only question is , will we make the Prem (Not Personally Interested So that’s a pointless attempt with me) before you go out of business ? 

Btw - Do you ever confess to being a sad Sag , in real life I mean 

3 minutes ago, Gas Go Marching In said:

A prem team who bought your best player last season. Yes a prem team. The same prem your fans have been telling me you'll make the for the past 20 years.

Yes , £20 million - worth twice your clubs total value

And

We know all about Prem teams , Manchester United incl Rashford, Zlatan , Pogba ....you get the drift

Maybe you saw it , it was a quarter final live on Sky

Lovely pass to Korey Smith for the winner 

3 minutes ago, Gas Go Marching In said:

I never said anything about amazing cup run. I said we had got further than you which we did. Unlucky da shit!

Plucky effort

Against a reserve side

Packed it out up there no doubt

Back to the relegation battle and impending financial collapse

Nice to see you rush on here so soon after your massive tie, to see what we are saying about you

I recommend the previous 5 pages - pure gold

6 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

What is it with these Pikeys coming on here and actually thinking they can take the piss ?

What are they on ?

They have absolutely no self awareness.

Stupid doesn't do it justice.

I actually think it’s great !

Roll up Roll up

3 minutes ago, Seventeen said:

 

Brighton literally bought your best player to stick in their reserves who then got out muscled by little Tom Nichols who then scored what must be his 7th goal in about 100 apps.

Thanks for spending another night obsessing over us.

Much love, always in your minds,

Rovers x

Pssssssst

We sold him for more than your whole tinpot outfit is Worth lock stock barrel, and a fair bit of change

Not the brightest are you

#MINDHECHASM

CIty x

1 minute ago, RedLionLad said:

Her facial expression lets everyone know she had to clean it first before using it...

You think it’s  the same pod that becomes Santa’s Grotto come December ?

4 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

When the vendor comes out of the portaloo and serves you up a hot dog with unwashed hands

I reckon that female steward with the erection lives in that Portaloo

1 minute ago, Ska Junkie said:

Shall we give them a clue?

In Dutch his name would be Schteve Lansjdown

Oh he's already got a club and done that.

Shall we buy Nice .......

or Bristol Rovers.........

Tough call

Talk about the gift

Credit where credits due , they keep us thoroughly amused and entertained , even when we don’t have a game

Hmmmmmm 

Think we can probably answer this one for you

Reminder

Phil Parkinson on ‘The debate’ starting in a min

1 minute ago, Gazred said:

No doubt they will claim they were never outclassed and are proud prowed of the performance. Looks to me if Brighton had their shooting boots on it could of been a hiding...

 

26 Shots ?

Sounds more like a firing range 

Well @Gas Go Marching In Seems you shot your bolt a little early on your amazing cup run

Or for something you can relate to - A Bit like when you get to the first button on her blouse but realise that it’s already over 

2 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

Look how close the portaloo is to the food. Two bites of a pasty and the shits kick in...

At least you can shout out your burger and onions order and put the ketchup on , all whilst sat on the crapper 

Niche

Cancel that Mead  DVD