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That was a great connection btw! Mutiny - The Family

Yeah it was excellent, even if I spent most of the time doing this whenever I recognised anywhere:

Proof that we are now in a post truth world.

Crying - Aerosmith

Fake Plastic Trees - Radiohead

Stupid Girl - Garbage

Worse Championship with Burnley in it though.

They've never won the Johnson's Paint Trophy and so will always be in our shadow.

Smash It Up - The Damned

Nazi Punks **** Off - Dead Kennedys

Yeah, he got 6 months. A fan has been jailed after running on to a pitch and headbutting a footballer at the end of Nottingham Forest's play-off match with Sheffield United. Billy Sharp, Sheffield United's captain, was attacked after his side lost to Forest on penalties. Sharp was knocked to the ground and required four stitches to his lip. Forest season ticket holder Robert Biggs, 30, pleaded guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm and was jailed for 24 weeks. At Nottingham Magistrates' Court on Thursday, Biggs, from Church View, Ilkeston, Derbyshire, was ordered to pay £500 compensation to Sharp, £85 in costs and a £128 victim surcharge. Biggs, who Nottingham Forest have said will be banned for life, was also given a 10-year football banning order. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-61505835.amp Way too low a sentence for a violent attack.

I see that as much different to a parent hitting a kid. A patent hitting a kid shows an inability to act like a responsible parent. A kid hitting back when being bullied is a way of stopping the abuse that's happening to them. In fantasy land everyone would talk it out, the bully would learn the error of their ways, the sun would come out out and everyone would live happily ever after. But that doesn't happen in the real world.

Assuming it's the same guy (surname is spelt differently) I found this quote: At the start of his speech, Simon states that the generation of the millennials is everyone born from approximately 1984 and after. Then he describes the millennials as being entitled, narcissistic, self-interested, unfocused and lazy. I'll give him a miss, it sounds like the usual self-interested, unfocused and lazy accusations so beloved by certain people.

Don't backchat me sonny jim.

Today it's social media/the internet In the 90s/00s it was video games. In the 80s it was video nasties, dungeons and dragons and heavy metal music In the 60s and 70s it was drugs, rock n roll and later punk music In the 50s it was American movies causing juvenile delinquency In the 20s and 30s it was "negro" jazz music

We all think we're young adults, until we remember the year we were born ?

I am not really referring to past generations, attitudes and knowledge were completely different back then. But for modern people, smacking a child means you've failed as a parent imo.

My son has never been smacked and he knows not to run out into the road. The same goes for my nephew and my young cousins. It's perfectly possible to teach road safety (and discipline/manners) without hitting.

You genuinely believe that there is more anti-social behaviour now than there used to be? Because I do not believe that's remotely true. Pick a decade and there will be just as many examples of arseholes being arseholes. It's only rose tinted nostalgia that makes people think the past was so much better.

Poor Ringo, he's always left out. ?

Right. So when was the time where the majority of people had discipline? I'm not asking for an exact date, just a rough idea.

I blame the Beatles. **** you John Lennon ?

I didn't say you mentioned young people. I said the moans about young peoples lack of discipline goes back millennia. It's pretty obvious that a complaint about society's lack of discipline involves young people, unless you think people lose discipline after age 30. When did discipline decline?