Clutton Caveman

I think it comes down to this. SL wants to sell. If we go down the potential value reduction is far greater than the cost of a couple of new faces. So yes I think his hand will be forced. Lets hope it is and we don't get anymore of NP's old mates looking for a pre pension position.

Semenyo should be ashamed of himself. Wells gave 100% after coming on both in attack and winning the ball back. Antoine seems to have read in the papers that he is very good. Either he is not fit or his head is in the wrong place. He barely got past a jog and his idea of closing down is pathetic. Boys needs to watch the video and compare his performance with that of Wells.

Not so sure about him finding a new club as he gets targeted by juts about every team we play.

Very simple. No. He can't beat his man, can't cross and is a liability in the air. Much better value available for far less salary

More interested in making up clever little songs that nobody knows and so can't join in or skipping out early to be at the front of the beer queue at half time At Coventry on Sunday their fans sang a lot of simple and well known songs and guess what other parts of the ground joined in. Football songs do not need to be original or win the Eurovision song contest, they need to be simple and loud. What's wrong with the players name with a bit of clapping in between?

We are essentially a team that plays on the break. Away for home where teams are more attacking to please fans this works quite well. At home both teams are effectively often trying to play on the break. Our fans get restless, some of our team get more adventurous, some stick to the plan and we have a huge gap in midfield. Then come the goals.

I was scanning the league tables after the Stoke game and got a horrible feeling in my stomach. Considering our current form, upcoming fixtures, very low chances of improving the squad in January it seems a relegation fight is almost inevitable. At the same time looking at the league 1 stats the Gas Heads must be very optimistic. They are winning ugly and finding a way to accumulate points at an alarming rate. If he didn't come with so much baggage I think Barton would have been offered a better job long ago. After the traditional slow start he seems to get a tune out of a bunch of no names. The thought of passing each other has not been on the cards for years but just at the moment I cannot quite get the thought out of my head. I wonder what the odds are?

When will all of the blood be squeezed out of the Stone? Money money money

I just think that it is never good when a player gets thrown under the bus. Consider Pring, why did he have to be on the naughty step for months when DaSilva has hardly beat his man all season. I wonder if King will on the naughty step now? No because he is one of the favourites and is allowed to make mistakes that are not tolerated in others. To me it feels like a toxic environment with a scapegoat mentality. Bottom line is, we are worse off than this time last year. Our problems are largely the same as last year and that has to go down to management.

One constant thread. Its never his fault

I believe it has its origins in engineering. If a machine was built in a basic, functional and no frills way it was described as agricultural because at that time most framing machinery was like that. Since then, it has morphed into sport etc describing anything which is not elegant

Anton for sure. He may or may not develop into a great player but for £5 million we could improve the team a lot. He is just too inconsistent and just doesn't seem to learn.

Just copy Rugby, their system has worked great for years. When the player looks up and sees the clock stopped the reason to waste time just goes

Is it never even a little bit his fault or is he perfect. Worst man management style I have seen in ages. All of this sort of talk should stay in the dressing room.

Seems to me that in some peoples opinion the worse thing you can do in life is to be successful. Yes he has heaps of money but as a young man he took loads of risks and worked hours that many would never even know existed. What he now choses to do with his money is his choice. Would you prefer owners like Birmingham or Hull have? It seems to me that some former players who had it all but chose to be more committed to Thatchers than football are somehow more respected. Do I detect a hint of reverse snobery, or not one of the people c**p

Worse cash cow I have ever heard of. More like a money pit

I think Antoine plays on instinct and is not the most football intelligent player. This makes him very hard to coach to a system. When Conway or Wiemann close down you can see they are checking the angles and calling others into the gaps

Do you really think anyone would want Martin or Klose even if we paid half of their wages

For me Antoine typifies us at the moment. In the rare game he is unplayable other than that he can't shoot on target, cannot retain the ball with his back to goal and gives away a free kick just about each time he tries to close down. I think at this stage of his career he desperately needs a mentor to bring out his best and we don't have one. At todays prices if we got an offer of £3 million I would accept immediately

I have to say the situation that Joey Barton took over in Gasland was far worse than NP had. I am absolutely no gas fan but he seems to be getting a tune out of a pretty poor bunch including youngsters.

There must be something wrong to see such a swing in performances from 1 week to the next. The latest strange Nig line ups like at Boro feels a bit like LJ towards the end. Shuffling the pack without any clear logic and hoping for the best. I hate it when NP talks about "they" so much like he and they are not in the same boat. I guess worst case for him is, we drop into bottom 3, he gets sacked with a nice top up to his pension fund. Clearly we have no money to improve the team so we have to coach them individually and as a team to grind out results. It seems to me that the kids tutored by Tins have far more idea of what they are doing then the older heads coached by NP and his team. I wonder what he seeks to achieve by week after week saying "just not good enough" aimed at the players. Surely his selection at Boro was not good enough because if they had any luck they would have hammered us. The team last night was not good enough and it appeared that they had been given no plan to work to. Fine when a player has an off day BUT when the whole team looks like a bunch of strangers it has to go down to the coaching staff. Some lessons learned I think. a) Forget Martin he is slow beyond believe and we play Warnock ball when he is on the field. b) Understand that our squad is thin and if we want to win any match we have to play our best team. If we wanted out of this cup why not play the entire 21's because at least they would play as a team. and would not risk players needed to avoid relegation. c) Accept that we are in a relegation battle. Pick your best 11 and play them whenever they are fit Finally NP accept that if the team plays poorly you are as much to blame as they are. You plan the tactics, you pick the team, you decide what is done in training and you are responsible for motivation and player coaching. Stop looking smug at each interview and get up for the fight as a part of the team not as an outside observer.

I think Massengo and Gow should never appear in the same sentence. Gow was a team player, Gow stopped made and scored goals. Gow intimidated the opposition. Massengo is not even in the same hemisphere.

We love him because he looks cool and we have a song for him end of

Would you want to move there?

I think when kids see a team where youth players get a chance they are more likely to sell. Tinnion is creating players with his values. Long may it continue.