Atticus

12 minutes ago, maxjak said:

You again make valid points........but i would say that humans have choice, they do NOT have to kill and exploit animals.  In the wild, animals who are predators, kill as a means of survival, there is no moral dilemma, it is purely instinctive....so they either hunt and kill,  or they die?  I would also argue that being killed, by whatever means, is NEVER Non stressful?   You state that "we are all animals, mammals, all part of that kingdom"

I would counter that as humans  we have intellect, and are able to make Decisions and moral judgements, whereas animals do not have that luxury?  

There are plenty of animals that are omnivors.

It certainly isn't hypocritical to be a meat eater but not want animals to be treated inhumanely for the enjoyment of people.

If people have a guilt trip about it fine, but don't assume that others should.

On 26/11/2022 at 23:25, And Its Smith said:

My brain

Massengo - obvious, hasn’t signed contract 

Scott - obvious, has basically said it

Martin - old and poor we won’t offer him a contract 

Kalas/Wells - both on huge money and will go and earn good money elsewhere 

Bentley - we have two other keepers 

We need to get the wage bill down so I think it’s pretty obvious they all go. Unsure of likes of Dasilva as hard to say 

Then if we survive this season, next we are f***** anyway.

Going forward completely clueless. Quite shocked at how bad it is. 

Not working at all now.

Watched first half. No stuttering or freezing, but ad others have said, completely different commentary.

Honestly, it's so bad. Consistently.

2 hours ago, SBB said:

What makes you think his mind is on next season? He may want to move on when his contact expires but that doesn’t mean he’s not committed  this season. I’m sure if he’s called upon and NP plays him, he’ll give his all…. Unlike the waste of space we had ip front a season or two ago.

Hm. Well, disagree. A player that won't sign a new contract, as young as him, would almost certainly have his eyes on the future as opposed to the season ahead. Its natural.

And clearly Nigel agrees to some extent. 

A) not reading the guardian.

B)that is some insane amount of wall.

What is the prediction?

1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

Is he not committed to the club? He signed a contract and is still under that contract. Always seems to put in maximum effort.  Yes it’s frustrating that he won’t sign a new contract but that’s his right. As long as he is putting in the effort on the pitch and in training then he has my respect.  

I'd suggest it's a player that has his eye on the season after.

That's not hard to make that ascertain is it.

Just now, Atticus said:

I'd suggest it's a player that has his eye on the season after.

That's not hard to make that ascertain is it.

Again. Why would a manager want to play a player that already has his eye on the future?

9 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Good for you.  The ‘who cares?’ comments on forums always baffle me. People are talking and debating one of our players.  If you don’t like that then look away. 

A player that won't sign a new contract. A player that will not commit to us next season. A ayer that has his eyes on whoever after this season.

That is not a player that has focus. Hence Pearsons comments. 

People pulling up stats etc about him, or making excuses for him. Who cares?

If we won't sign a new contract, then not to be too crude but **** him, and focus on players that wanna be here.

I'm more worried about chances of signing new players.

If he doesn't want to signal new contract then bye bye. If he shows no commitment then I hope he isn't played.

Frustrating as hell we csnt sign anymore players though

It's pure laziness.

You'd think "pundits" that are being paid to predict where teams will finish in a league would try to do a modicum of research on the matter.

Evidently not.

Pretty sure Le Tissier was still somewhat mild when he left sky in comparison to now.

I do recall he was publicly questioning the legitimacy of BLM while near the end of his time at sky though, and you know how far sky backed it. 

So maybe partly that? I dunno.

14 minutes ago, The Bard said:

I've never been convinced by is basically saying I don't like but haven't yet felt justified in criticising. 

Most of The criticism up to now has been absolutely ludicrous and is more a reflection of the poisonous 'culture war' whipped up by the right wing media than football.  Southgate is obviously more Guardian than Sun so would have got both barrels at some point. 

Now they have the poor run they were dreaming of they can really go for it.  

Complete nonsense used as excuses by Guardian readers.

Ive seen no hate at all on Southgate by any "ring wing" outlets. He's hardly had it the same as Eriksson (personal life stuff) Mclaren or Hodgson.

The criticism is due to performances, team selections and tactics.

An easy obvious recent example is the 1-0 loss to Hungary. 5 at the back with 2 defensive mids in front. Its infuriating and frustrating to see us set up like that when we are clearly more talented going forward. Last night may not of shown it, but the players looked clueless.  Thats down to him. He has no idea how to utilise attack minded players. He is to scared to lose. 

Plus a complete lack of experience. It was a barmy appointment to begin with imo. He did well, I think that time has been and gone now. 

2 hours ago, Sheltons Army said:

Southgate needs two results in September and a very decent WC or he’s toast (I think he will walk post WC)

What happens if we get tonked in those 2 games against Germany and Italy?

Too late to change at that point, and it will be f****** toxic with the fans and media. 

Utter drivel. Just embarrassing.

1 goal in 4. A pen.

Losing 3-0 at home to Hungary. We look a mess. And completely clueless

14 hours ago, sglosbcfc said:

Is it not a good look for grown men in their late 40s to walk around town in the full kit? I'm just asking on behalf of a friend

Haha well...

Shorts and the hooped socks? I'm thinking not......

1 hour ago, BCFCGav said:

Embarrassing isn’t it. Makes people come across like they think they’re really cool and special. 

Yep. It's not like if someone is walking around town in the full kit.

It's a top. They have adult sizes. I think its smart and have no issues with people wearing a top. Especially if they are exiled.

21 minutes ago, !james said:

Very smart, I won't buy one because I'm not 14 years old but looks good. 

Hate this mindset. 

5 hours ago, Northern Red said:

Usual miserable clowns overreacting to one bad game.

Clowns? Hilarious.

It was a shocking result and performance. No other way to spin it.

The lineup was terrible. It was set up to draw. Against Hungary.

The performance was dreadful. and was well deserved given the way we setup and the lineup we had.

Its worrying. To say the least.

17 hours ago, Offside said:

McInnes had a tough job at City, with the club being in a mess, but he signed some truly awful players too - the likes of Foster, Wilson and Bates. That relegation season started well, as has been mentioned in other posts, but by the time of that Leicester game (was it a 4-0 defeat? It was horrendous, anyway) it felt like Del’s time was up and the crowd had started to turn against him. 

Exactly. The love in for Mcinnes because he said some nice things about City is a bit much.

He signed some utter dross for us that were never going to be good enough. Just compounded the bloated squad, which imo didn't start to be corrected until SOD.

Hate Forest, hope they get battered in the final. 

Thought the first half we were poor, second half we were very good. Looked alot more confident and composed at the back, and looked excellent ok the break. 

Alot of momentum and zest, even Wells looked really sharp when he came on. Was a fun second half to watch. 

28 minutes ago, Wanderingred said:

Lets see, what can this shower can offer today.

We conceded in the last minute a couple of games ago, so not that. Threw away a lead against ten men last week so not that either. What about a missed penalty? Ooh, we haven’t been 3-0 down after about 20 minutes all season. I’ll go for that, in a 4-1 defeat.

Hm, your first point means we are due to concede a last minute goal.

9 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Jon said we should be doing better.

And Pearson threw a wobbly over it.

He's been shocking as manager overall.