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Did I say I would?

Why not?

Thing is, two goals up starting the second half, what is more important - scoring a third, or keeping the opposition to nil? To go for more, or hang on to what you've got? Walking back out for the second half, the team had something to "throw away," something to lose that we didn't have at 7.45. At 2:0 up we had "three points in the bag" and another goal wouldn't mean any more points. It’s one thing to talk about it in theory, or even impress it upon the team in the dressing room at half-time, it's quite another to walk back out on to the pitch in front of your crowd and not revert to type or habit somewhat. The tendency to "circle the wagons" and protect what you have is seen across various team sports, the England women hockey team did this v Australia in the Commonwealth final recently, after starting so brightly and building a two goal lead. To change the group "psychology" is tremendously difficult and will take time, as I don't need to tell you, we have been poor for so long now.

Perhaps not a surprise over the period from LJ stuttering then struggling up until well into Nige's time during which we would not infrequently have two or three attempts on goal, sometimes fewer, little possession in general, next to none in the opposition third, were dreadful to watch, and presumably spent little time in the opposition box in possession of the ball? But seeing as we were 7th, was it?, top scorers last season, you think some of that must've changed.

Crikey, sneaky Nige! And he got away with it? Fair play, I bet he kept this quiet when talking to Sky

I was telling a young man in Weston recently who identified as a Manchester United fan that most of their trophies have been won under two managers but he didn't seem to absorb this. Just looked it up and 56 of their 66 trophies - 85% - were delivered by three managers: Busby, SAF and Ernest Mangnall. They're doing ok really, at the moment, no great disaster, when you look at it like this.

Probably be the next owner after SL that takes more than gives. If anyone takes us off his hands, that is

Not if the way you are doing it is not the right way, no

We need to be in amongst it at the top of the Championship and look like we are going places (places like Anfield and Stamford Bridge) not down the bleedin' bottom looking like another year of struggle lies ahead to have any chance of persuading or convincing a player with the potential to step up a division and interest from a club already there to stick with us for one more season.

Brentford have done ok out of buying and selling, and buying some more. It's not what you do (most clubs are doing broadly the same thing) it’s the way that you do it. And that's what gets results.

.... team stays in bottom 3 all season, crowds shrink, income shrinks, L1 rocks up, season ticket sales shrink, all other income shrinks, further sales and cuts required, team starts poorly in L1, crowds dip below 10k .....

All that will happen then is that the opposition will "set up" differently against us and exploit the weaknesses that come with 4-4-2 and posters on here and students of the game will suggest 3-5-2 as the way to overcome our difficulties. Probably. Problem appears to be too many Championship sides have a few too many better players than we have. Until Kalas and Semenyo return, we can hope.

We're all melts at the moment

Sounds familiar

Thrupence ha'penny?

Don't be silly

Fascinatingly, the Few also broke down on route to Hull. In May '84. They came to a halt about 80 miles away, and went by a fleet of taxis only for one of them to get a puncture. The Few's coach was an early 70's Len Munden thing (probably), it did well to get that far in them days. Hull needed a win to go up, the Few drew nothing each. Better than we managed.

GrahamC throws the City bus under the bus.

Massive. Possibly the biggest game we've had in August since Arsenal '76.

Take up bowls? Gardening? Watch afternoon tv, Antiques etc? A cruise, around the world?

Come on now darling, er, Dave (stop this, now)

Better from a bricks and mortar point of view, but on the pitch? SL's wedge has helped us cling on at this level longer than we would typically manage, longer than we would manage under previous, less minted owners; typically by now, after the good run ended or someone crucial left, we would quickly fold and be back in L1 before you can say: Les Kew. In the words of Sheff Weds fan Paul Brady and Ronan Keating, all that's happening here is a long goodbye (to Championship football. Imho).

Bloke's on the other side of the world, give him a chance! I don't think they cover our L1 on Kerry Packer's Channel 9 what with all the Aussie rules and what have you ...

LJ? Best finish 8th? Might we be in a better position than we are in now if his father was still with us? (We could carry on with this, a bit)

"Ffs" on the Matchday thread on a Saturday between 3 and 4.55 pm and/or 7.45 and 9.40 pm on a Tuesday or Wednesday