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24 minutes ago, firstdivision said:

 My feeling is ‘be careful what you wish for.’

 

That's not a "feeling," that's a thought (a fearful one). Which can probably be traced back to Alan Curbishley and Charlton and all that. Or even back to 1982, and all that.

Do you ever think about clubs where they got things right and things worked out really well? I wonder what that feels like?

What do you think?

3 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Nige attacking players, again

The "experienced" players

8 minutes ago, RedInDevon said:

Have supported City for nearly 50 years but not sure how much more of this dross I can take! We are no further forward than when we got rid of Holden, probably worse in fact.

You can take more, mate. You've not reached peak dross, not yet. Or is that nadir dross?

2 minutes ago, Dan Robin said:

Really disappointed about today's performance and result.

Only positive is...that some teams below us lost too. Not optimistic at all about our next games.

The Blue Few?

16 minutes ago, DingleRed said:

David's brother lived around the corner in Reedley Road. David, I believe, bought a new-build flat overlooking the County Ground. Could watch for free! Also, Bill Athey lived off Reedley Road when he played for Glos. I think some of the current Bears may be nearby as well. Going back, Norman Hunter was nearby as were the Mabbutts. 

No doubt the milkman from the long-gone dairy on Parrys Lane was in the know back then .....

3 hours ago, DingleRed said:

 

Yes 

Thought so. Add to that the Right Reverend George Carey, the Bishop of Bath & Wells (but not the Baby-Eating Bishop of Bath & Wells), who would go on to be Archbishop of Canterbury,  and is now Baron Carey of Clifton, and it was quite an illustrious road, Ormerod, back then. There was a Graveney there too at some point, but not Dave or Tom.

Wonder where the Rovers manager lived back then - Shire, perhaps?

On 22/02/2022 at 16:24, Davefevs said:

Agree, Nige definitely not a dinosaur.  I don’t get where that comes from, other than he’s 58.

On 22/02/2022 at 16:57, The Bard said:

It's because he talks plainly, doesn't try to sound like like a tactical genius by using buzzwords 

 

Yes, that, and: he throttles opposition players on the touchline and fights wild dogs with bare hands on solo hikes across East European mountain ranges (hope he doesn't book the latter for this summer)

On 22/02/2022 at 23:38, Davefevs said:

I look at it positively.  A couple of new players, a few mistakes cut out and we become a top half team fairly comfortably next season.

Yes, defend a bit better (5/10%)/cut number of late goals conceded/"manage" slender leads after 85 minutes/sign quality CB in summer and we can have a very different season indeed.

1 hour ago, Super said:

They are a very strange football club.

Strange, but interesting. 

On 21/02/2022 at 21:52, spudski said:

Would filming by the Pearces have commentary and line ups, with score etc? Maybe they filmed it and it was sent for TV release? Or maybe it was filmed by a TV company? 

This gives some insight...

Although his father was a rugby man, Jonathan loved football and all he wanted to do was play for Bristol City. Jonathan’s father was a progressive man who believed in giving youth opportunities, and he worked as a Senior Lecturer in Electrical Engineering. The family lived on the same road as Bristol City manager Alan Dicks, and through him Jonathan’s father became involved with the club, taking on responsibility for the education of junior players. In 1972 Jonathan and his father started filming games for use in training, making Bristol City the first club in Europe to film games for tactical purposes. Jonathan explains how this helped him gain experience in football and media worlds: “I was meeting people in TV, and we travelled to games with journalists or on the First Team bus.” Still grappling with ambitions to play football, he reveals: “For about six months, I trained with the club, but I knew I wasn’t good enough. Then I broke my leg playing football at school and I was four months in plaster. I got a letter from Bristol City saying they didn’t want to take me on, and I locked myself in my room for two days. I was fifteen.” But Jonathan continued working with his dad, filming the games, and when he progressed on to Birmingham University, Alan sent him a lovely letter of thanks which, to this day, Jonathan treasures.
When Jonathan was a second year undergraduate, BBC Radio Bristol had a job vacancy covering Bristol City games. To pass the audition, Jon had to commentate over recordings of Bristol City games. Fortunately, those recordings were provided by Jonathan’s dad, enabling him to prepare thoroughly and, from then on, things fell into place.

Was that road that AD and the Pearces lived on Ormerod Road (BS9), would any one on here know or be able to confirm?

21 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

You mean Nick Lowe, Dave Edmonds had Girl Talk out at that time .

I did mean Nick Lowe, thanks. 

Roxy Music's "Angel Eyes" always transports me back to that time, the early autumn of 1979, when we were a top class club, before we began to fall apart, to a season I started going fairly regularly. 

Buggles "Video Killed The Radio Star" does the same. And Dave Edmunds "Cruel To Be Kind," and, er, Cliff's "We Don't Talk Anymore." Amongst a few others.

Good football, great pop music: 1979.

Some people used to reckon on here that Lee was treated with uncommon support and patience by Steve Lansdown and would have received less understanding any where else in football. Don't know where they get these fanciful ideas from, some times ....

32 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Who was there . Beauty 

Diego Maradona had to get a bit closer to Shilton before he was confident of beating him ....

34 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said:

Can take the credit for this picture as it was sent over by a mate who went to Bideford  fc yesterday 

Square, upright top holding lights (above) whereas AG lights (from 60s, 70s, 80s) had rectangular top angled toward the pitch.

Top class our lights were, elegant; these above are a bit scruffy, a bit tin pot

12 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

It was - they must sent them on again.

The floodlight pictured above is not one of the AG floodlights from back in the days before everyone sitting down and not getting wet.

46 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Well both have already sold their ground to themselves, but only Reading were stupid enough to put the wrong tax year on the document,

How they got away with only a 6 point penalty still baffles me.

They haven’t got away with it, not yet; if they don't get away with it, Derby'll get away with a 21 point penalty. 

2 hours ago, Slippin cider said:

Basket case of a club! 

Biscuit case of a club

1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

Loving their plummet. 

"Beautiful plumage"

13 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

The very fact you ask that question shows a certain naivety.  Unless you know the individual it’s impossible to say how you’d motivate them  

Let's try and remember we are all naive about the essential goings on inside professional football - you yourself have disagreed with Nige - not without experience and success in the game - saying that he can put desire into players by motivating them while elsewhere on this thread suggesting we "listen" to "ex pros" when they wax lyrical about great motivational managers. Why aren't you listening to Nige when he says this?

We're all guessing about this.

Motivation is a slippery thing from what I can see, hard to pin down. Did Nige sign Vardy then set about "motivating" him, or identify a highly motivated individual and pay a record fee for a non-league player to make sure he got him? 

It may, or may not be, that Nige cannot motivate any more, or never could; I just don’t know how we could be sure. 

Shakespeare and his "once more unto the breach, lads" has a lot to answer for. The idea of the big, strong man inspiring exceptional performance merely through a few brilliant "get stuck into 'em, Nakhi/Kasey" sentences is embedded in our football culture and psyche.

We all know Shakespeare wasn't there on the day with a dicta phone taking actual quotes, right?

1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

 

What do you mean by "motivation," exactly? Henry V style oratory? Mike Bassett type effin and blinding? Shouting from the touchline and waving his fist?

Or something more sophisticated than that?

And how would a player or manager know, rather than guess, that his magical motivational qualities made a difference  (as opposed to, say, how preparation had gone the week leading up to the game, the opposition missing a key player, a lucky bounce or deflection or a penalty decision going your way or not early in a game, the physio having a great week, the nutrition being spot on, a player not sleeping well, a dispute between players unresolved, all manner of things)

How could a manager's motivation be measured to demonstrate beyond doubt it's impact and value? 

34 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Pearson says you cannot give players desire. I’d argue you can, it’s called motivating players 

I'd argue managers can draw out or coax what is in a player but cannot implant characteristics such as desire into adults. 

You go out and find desire, courage, in players and bring them here, then when those players play with said characteristics punters marvel at the managers "motivation."

4 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said:

1-0 to 3-1

Yeah questions need to be asked now

Ok, here's one:

4 minutes ago, MelksRed said:

How many games did Holden lose?

5 minutes ago, Pezo said:

I think the interesting thing about this would be to see what would have happened if they hadn't had success or just those individual players, obviously impossible.

If they hadn't and looking at other teams from similar sized towns then would you say they would be tier 3/4 mainstays.

Also if we had had that success where would we be? Arguably bigger than your Wolves or Newcastle's, maybe up there with teams like Villa. I guess we could also have had less relative success and be like Rovers though I guess.

I guess that's your point isn't it, we don't have the history so don't carry the same amount of country wide support relative to the size of the local population - I don't think anyone can argue with that.

It's not worth arguing over. Let's hope we win this afternoon.