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On 09/04/2022 at 17:47, Tafkarmlf said:
Respect where you are, disagree, unless he's actually picking and training the first XI
In that case would be in total agreement.
Micro: Nige
Macro: Steve
Aggro: us.
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18 hours ago, Galley is our king said:
Quite simple really,
If people are honest avoiding relegation was the major (if only) goal for this season - Done
True. But you could also achieve this goal - avoiding relegation - by getting 60 points and finishing 12th. Or 70 points, and just missing out on the play-offs. Or even by getting promotion (this is a bloody great way of avoiding relegation).
We didn’t have to be almost exactly as shite as last season to avoid relegation. More than one way to skin a cat, as the lad at West 'am'll tell you....
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38 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:
They would be damned if they spoke and damned if they didn’t.
They could try the medium of dance and movement, then, instead? Or sculpture? To say what needs to be said without saying it, or not saying it.
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14 hours ago, And Its Smith said:
So many fans misunderstand their roles
So many of your posts are: "I understand football. Other people do not." Don't know if you have noticed this?
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31 minutes ago, GrahamC said:
I have the feeling not only that she could have persuaded me otherwise but also that I wouldn’t have wasted so much of my life on this..
In hindsight I’m not sure I understand that decision myself, let alone whatever Ms. Binoche thinks.
Forget points deductions, this is the real potential tragedy right here.
You wouldn’t let it lie re the cats & dogs thing, would you?
Non. Je ne forget rien
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39 minutes ago, GrahamC said:
If Juliette Binoche had hung around St. George in the late 1970s I’m sure we would be together now..
You would still have gone to Halifax midweek in 82/3, and I don’t think she would've stood for/comprendez-vous'd that. And she's more chien than chat so no chance ....
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21 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:
I can’t see LJ coming back to BS3.
Look again. Keep looking
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1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:
But he’s not the head of the metropolitan police, which is a huge organisation, he’s the manager of a football club, and when it comes to events on the field, his job is to prepare and persuade 18 footballers to give 100%. And patently that hasn’t been happening. I’m sorry, but in any other walk of life, the manager would take responsibility for under-performance by their staff, but all Pearson does is blame his players and make strange comments about their ‘personality’. I don’t buy that. If he can’t get the players to do what he wants them to do then he has failed as a manager.
He’s had over a year now, and far from seeing any improvement, yesterday we witnessed an abject, humiliating performance against a ten-man bottom side. And what does Pearson do? Blames the players of course. Has he ever taken any responsibility? And don’t give me that stuff about football being worse under O’Driscoll and McInnes: this, for me, is the worst season I can remember - and I’ve been supporting City a long time, just a series of unrelentingly depressing matches. No wonder people are not renewing season tickets. This season has been close to torture at times.
I would have been very happy for Pearson to have been successful, but this is a results game and the one thing he has demonstrated is an inability to motivate his players to produce results. I can see no reason to believe that next season will be any better if he stays.
I think Nige has "failed" to inspire or cajole any more than the very bare minimum out of what is not a strong squad. In a very difficult situation, in a more difficult challenge than that faced by LJ here, he has struggled to "manage," but he has avoided the ultimate "failure" of relegation but not by much, and quite possibly due to the points reductions elsewhere.
Next season looks like another grim struggle but who knows.
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3 hours ago, Major Isewater said:
Largish Nige needs to be given this next transfer window to try to form the team he wants. Realistically if we are still not showing signs of progress by Christmas then everyone needs to accept that a new man should be brought in.
If we're accepting that by Christmas, we'll be L1 again by the Christmas after next
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3 hours ago, GTFABM said:
I agree that some of the comparisons are with managers who were in a different league but it still doesn’t look good. The old trusty ‘he has a poor squad’ only stacks up when you play a team with a better one…. Peterborough do not have a better squad than us, so that excuse is taken away. We were still pathetic so it’s not all down to the squad. What a day to put in a performance like that when season ticket sales just up for renewal.
It doesn't look good, no, but we are 17 points above Posh, and they're going down, and we're staying up. So, over the course of a season rather than 90 minutes, Nige has delivered! as far as us and Posh are concerned.
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Just now, ZiderEyed said:
Any statistics on sleep walkers/talkers by region?
I'm off to bed, mate
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5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:
I bet they sleep well in Guernsey
Wait till he wakes up
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1 minute ago, italian dave said:
Those implementing it (LJ, and probably even more so MA) were, yes.
But that doesn’t mean it was fundamentally flawed. A different appointment could have been one that would have adopted that strategy and taken it to the next level.
You don't agree with Pearson saying it was "bonkers" ?
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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:
The silence continues.
On the One Show the other week on the telly, a Doc was talking about sleep, a big Oxford sleep census, and it turnts out the poorest sleepers are up north, the best down south. And they sleep best of all, apparently, in Guernsey.
So, I think Steve is asleep.
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10 minutes ago, italian dave said:
My feeling is that we are at a crossroads right now.
I think SL (or whoever) may have made the wrong appointment, and that’s in no way being critical of NP. We all know that there the styles of play, personalities, strategic approaches that managers adopt at a club can vary enormously. The risk is that when you change managers you end up having to change everything about the club - and that takes time.
SL did that in the past and said he’d recognised that was a mistake and that he wouldn’t do it again. But he then didn’t seem to be able to think of an option beyond the internal appointment (Holden) to achieve it. And when that failed he reverted to type and just went for a change. He didn’t do what clubs like Brentford and Swansea have done and gone for an external appointment but one who’d absolutely buy into the existing strategy.NP talks about the culture and the softness and the weak approach of recent years, but it’s a culture and an approach that saw us finish in the top half of the table three years running. It’s not fundamentally flawed, it’s just an approach, a culture, that’s diametrically opposed to NPs view of the game.
You’re right that he needs time to ‘fix it’, in the sense that fix means ingrain the completely different approach a culture that he sees as the right one. That’s going to involve a complete change of personnel, including potentially a complete overhaul of the academy approach too.
My worry is that he just won’t get that time. I really can’t see (and NP said as much in the week) that we’re going to be able to afford to change much in the summer. And if we start next season with NP in charge of what’s essentially the same squad as we have now then we will be heading for relegation. I don’t think SL will countenance relegation as part of the long term plan to overhaul the club. So mid next season we risk being back in the search for another new manager and no real sense of direction in the club.
I’m torn now between what you say, give him the time to do what he has to do (and that’s my instinctive approach every time - including like you with LJ) and a feeling that now is the time to cut and run. I’ve no idea who, or who’d come mind you!
The "existing strategy" was creaking, wasn’t it?
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16 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said:
Just shows how terrible it’s been this season. Why do the Lansdown’s just accept this
Jon said we should be doing better.
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1 hour ago, pongo88 said:
He, Alf Ramsey, definitely had better players than the current City Squad, but if he couldn’t get excited about England winning the World Cup why should NP get excited about playing against Peterborough?
Sir Alf saw himself as a cut above all that hullabaloo and a cut above the players and 'umble, track suited coaching staff. Alf was (trying to be) a Gentleman, he was in to climbing the social ladder. To have cavorting about would've undone that.
He never 'ad all them "helocution" lessons to go and blow it by jumping about like the serfs/players with the country watching just because we won a cup.
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1 minute ago, glynriley said:
Thresh metal. Tune!
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2 hours ago, David Brent said:
Nothing like a new manager suggestion to separate the wheat from the chaff.
No, not a 'Thresher' ? - and we used to have a Thresher at AG, you know
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@Davefevs said they are, so I think yer answer is: wood
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4 minutes ago, glynriley said:
******* right we should…!
Ok. What time is it again?
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3 minutes ago, glynriley said:
Sack the board, sack the board, sack the board…
Good old days in the car park in front of the grandstand.
We were so much younger then .... or was it older?
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1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said:
I have to admit I was very anti-Cotts when he was appointed mainly because of his `abrasive` persona.
I`m happy to admit I got it totally wrong though.
No, no, you were right, he was abrasive, wasn’t he?
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3 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:
And precisely what opportunity has he had so far to make the necessary, radical changes to our squad?
He's had months up that High Di Hi Performance Centre with this shite squad!
Where do we go from here
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Yeah, Steve. And take yer stand with you.