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Only clubs that at some point in their history have been truly successful at the top level (ie not grim struggles against relegation from the top, and not promotions from L1 and Sherpa Van cups) have that level of interest, and that quality of tradition, handed down from one generation to the next, regardless of current status and regardless of the number of years since their glory days. We're not in that category of club and never will be. No-one outside of Bristol remembers our Anglo-Scottish cup win, except for Alec Ferguson.

For any young people browsing on here (unlikely, but just in case) treacle is a thick, sticky, gooey sugary gooey thing your grandparents used to eat in the 1970s, and when they were wading through it it was not very easy, and exhausting.

They had 55% possession that night. We had 11 shots and 6 on target, they had 19 and 5. I think they hit the post first half, at 0:0. We definitely outscored them, and scored by far the quality goals, but "outplayed" them is a figment of your fertile imagination I would say. But don't let me get in the way of that, I'm sure I won't. You remember it as you please!

He doesn't appear to be much of a "January, February, March" sort of manager. I can see him working next in the southern hemisphere, Boca Juniors perhaps. Or Santos. Mind, he still won't get them promoted.

What about me - I don't drive?

We were defending a Newport corner. Mick rose at the near post and headed the ball away and it flew the length of the pitch and into the top corner, past a despairing Neville Southall, as @GrahamC will confirm.

Sang it like she meant it, maaaaan.

Just watching Elaine Page (bird that used to sing musicals) on the telly singing 'Short People' (really), right now, and she goes: "Short people got no reason Short people got no reason Short people got no reason To live They got little hands And little eyes And they walk around Tellin' great big lies ..... "

That's good, but a bit dull. Try something more outlandish, like Silvia's doing here (taking the forum off somewhere different /livelier this evening)

Preston are in the "not famous anymore" category. We're in the "meh, beige" category. We've been shite for 100 years, it's not the media, it's us! We're not interesting. It's our responsibility to be interesting, not sky's to be interested in us (when we're not interesting). We were interesting for three months in 2017/18, and media were all over us (pissing off fans elsewhere) before quickly returning to our usual dull, shite, beige shiteness. Which isn’t of any great interest to sky or anyone else outside Bristol (and most people within it).

Long may they flow, Bex.

Can we not knock it - when it knocks us two points?

Got a Preston, er, contact, who is trying to get in touch with our, er, top fella, for post-match, uhm, y'know, "rendezvous," is this the right number?

It's football for grown ups. Tyreeq got some growing up today. Mark Ashton will help him with this.

People like a day out. Some people like going to Wembley, in May; other people like going to Ashton Gate in, er, January.

Are you doing irony here? Is this a dig at our Welsh neigh-bours reluctance to meet their moral obligations and difficulty in doing the decent thing?

Step aside @Davefevs, step forward @swanker.

Carrot and stick. Carrot: play for us; stick: play for Ipswich.

Yes, precisely what I had in mind and was going to post a week or two ago. Been a lot of "Storming," though;

Partly because we're in a different stage of the cycle of form and fortune: we were where they are now in 17/18 and 18/19, and where were those clubs at that time? Answer: not where they are now. The trouble is, it's too difficult for clubs without the funds to maintain a play-off challenge year after year in this division for a number of reasons including when you do well but don't go up your best players are cherry-picked by better and wealthier clubs, and it's not always a good idea to stand in their way if they have an opportunity to move up the pyramid, or let their contracts run out, as we have seen. Another reason is that few if any coaches or managers maintain their "magic" at one club for more than a handful of seasons. What we have to hope is that we stay up this season, and that we're still a Championship club when Palmer and Wells and whoever else is holding us back are gone, thereby free-ing us up to bring in appropriate, motivated lads for the task facing us here. Then we might see the cycle turn around again, and good form and fortune return. If it doesn't then Nigel will go, and someone else will come in. What we're trying to do is what we never seem to have been able to do, and that is rebuild at this level ie without collapsing back down to L1 and rebuilding from there, and seeing instead if we cannot get back amongst the not-so illustrious or much-like-our-level clubs you list there currently going through a positive stage of their own cycle. Back where we were three or four years ago, and ideally stay in contention longer and "deeper" into the season than we managed under LJ. It might be SL's finest moment if we can do it.

I think so, yes. I mean, others do try: Leeds, Stoke, Birmingham, etc, even our mob at times! But Millwall revel in their "vileness" and would be upset if we thought any better of them. Like a naughty child it's best to ignore them where possible (this is how to rile them. Not calling them "vile" and so on).

Very much so.

So, Sir Les Kew (the Honourable Les): he sold Cole to Newcastle and robbed the Scousers. Our Greatest Leader of All Time (Gloat) who never had a stand named after 'isself, surely?

Was only remembering Liverpool '94: did we have to pay for our ticket the re-jigged/second game at AG?

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