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I am mentioning two scenarios from what I have seen no evidence of either. Both are said to have happened, one was dismissed due to no evidence and one is deemed to have so bad but there also seems to be no evidence at the moment.. The Villa statement itself states Villa have asked authorities to investigate, so how am I mixing up my information - it is actually the first post on this thread "we ask the authorities to investigate this incident to find this individual. Zero tolerance to abuse in football". So where are you getting your information from? I have only seen what has been put on here, and in todays World of all the muppets filming absolutely everything bar watching the game, I am hugely surprised there aren't multiple videos from multiple people from multiple angles etc. Plus this must have all happened in the front few rows if the player has heard it all game, there would be even more video of the incidents from other stands as plenty would see it kicking right off. Has something happened, probably. Has something happened for a full game with fan fights, walk outs as reported etc, doubtful imo. Probably no different that us fans saying "we don't get given penalty decisions all the time", said to make it look worse than what it actually is. Slightly off topic, as for their zero tolerance to abuse in football, I wonder what they call abuse? Are they going to ban thousands of their fans when they abuse the referee in their next game - pretty much a guarantee?

Surely the way it has been reported including on their podcast, then people should at least be told exactly what has happened with some actual evidence. They are saying it's disgusting abuse that lasted for 90 minutes, that had fans fighting etc. When a City fan got accused of abusing one of our own supporters (by the Gas liar) everyone seemed to want evidence and proof. The statement from Villa states they asked Authorities to investigate, not the other way around. So where are you getting your information from exactly? Villa are saying one thing and you are saying another. I wouldn't mind seeing exactly what happened just to see how much has actually been added to the actual event, to the story of a full game of horrendous abuse and fans fighting, walkouts etc.

Abuse all game from one fan, crowd fights, actual fans walking out in disgust, so why isn't there multiple videos on here of all of this? There must be multiple videos from multiple people capturing all of it seeing as it was sustained through the whole game? My guess is "all game" means a couple of times in 90 minutes. Villas statement says "investigate this incident", wouldn't that mean it happened once, or is it a 90 minute incident?

Yeah a point or 2 extra every 6 games won't make any difference whatsoever to where a club finishes and how a table looks, and then brings more confidence to players etc etc. Who would want that.

Is he not allowed to use some data he has (or even say) that shows we may be creating more chances, we may be creating more chances that should be/should have been converted, which in the longterm should yield rewards? I guess he is trying to say the data is showing we should have had more points than we currently got, and I think many would agree with that. Therefore the points we have gained are under what we should really have had with the overall performances. He then says he doesn't use data to make subs - so what, that's great according to your original conclusions. You've said he should be using his eyes and other things for subs, and that is what he is actually confirming isn't it. But that isn't correct now. "Every single approach should use different methods"? Well that is what he has confirmed, or do you want him to use some data for subs as well? It really isn't clear, because I really wouldn't be asking.

I bet he's made some serious money basically because of being a mate of Peter Kay. I actually seen him down the Colston Hall for a stand up gig and he was pretty poor, not surprised he knocked that career on the head. Decent in the comedies with Kay, but as a presenter he certainly does seem an odd choice to keep getting roles.

You seem to be criticising your own criticisms!! If he isn't using data for his subs then that means he is using his eyes doesn't it and a combination of other things, so what has he done wrong here exactly? You're saying he should be doing what you are suggesting, but he is already doing (if he isn't using data), then somehow criticising him for it. If he is only using data for some things he isn't using it for everything, and you have said he shouldn't rely on data for everything. He isn't. You are criticising him for things that you have actually said he should be doing. I think you are all over the place, not Manning (and I am certainly not saying I am convinced by him yet at all, but at least willing to give him some time). Having to go massively out your way because you feel the need you "have to" criticise him. Very bizarre imo.

Eh? So in your analysis he uses data to get some sort of message across (implying he is wrong), but he doesn't use data to make subs (implying that is wrong)? So the conclusion is that he is all over the place. Then you seem to complain and make a point that a manager should use some data, but then no manager should simply not rely on it. Well that is exactly what he is doing isn't it going by your first part. He isn't relying on data because his subs aren't driven by data.

Fine for me, not single buffer all game and a minute in front of what was on my stick

Where is this data exactly?

It's the data, get with the program. We now have ready made excuses for a poor team selection and any subs. The data said that man couldn't run another 10 yards or 5 minutes without risking a non contact injury.

https://sports-10.com/huddersfield-v-bristol-city/

I worked with a Bob Clifford a few years ago, he liked his football and think he had trials or played for Crystal Palace, just wondering if it was the same bloke? He was from over Knowle way when I knew him, he died a few years ago (if it's the same one).

Will never forget the Hammers fan giving it the big 'un in the stand to our end, and then what seemed like the huge majority of City fans singing "there's only one James Corden" at him, and him losing it even more and then getting booted out. Comedy gold.

That Marquis bloke said the same the other night after arguing with them at the end of the game....

Cousin back then, but may be his husband now. Or he could no longer be his cousin as he could be dead. My money is on Joey just being a bit dim though.

Why are you insinuating the poster seems to think it was ok because it was an away day? @Lewisdabaron even put the word (sadly) at the end of if his post, emphasising a regular would be used to it because we have plenty of idiots at away games. Nowhere has he said it was ok as people are making out. Weird how people are slating some idiots for having a go at other fans at a match, then basically having a go at a poster on here for something they haven't even said. The actual irony. As for the OP, hope your old man is ok, I'm afraid we have plenty of morons at away games.

I hope nobody reports them to the FA/EFL......

My Saggie mate who is up there with the most optimistic and deluded you will ever find, even admits their fan base is very old and no new kids down there coming through. The fans just aren't there for them for a massive upturn, even if they managed to somehow go up. We've had the majority of the next generation coming to the gate, they suddenyl aren't going to get a load of new kids showing up in that shitehole. Times have massively changed, but they cannot even see it, and will bang on about their mythical Wembley crowd they have to make up.

Exactly this, also if he does really well it will be "because Pearson done all the groundwork" from many fans. Everything points to the board wanting Pearson gone, and the way they handled it has been atrocious.

Not me personally, but I do know one of the blue few who refuses to get anything red, refuses to shop in Sainsburys (because it was all their fault why they haven't got a new Stadium), and he also refused to go to Ashton Gate for his Covid jab! Nuts

Unless JL can actually prove a number of the injuries we currently have (or previously had) was due to players not being conditioned correctly, Rennie has done something wrong or Pearson shouldn't have risked someone who then got injured, then the point on the number of injuries is meaningless. As there seems to be very valid reasons why the huge majority of our injured list are injured - through contact. Add in the fact he made a point of saying they had longer breaks than other teams to try and make a point of why he went with Pearson too, and yet Fleming told us yesterday that these longer breaks is something they have always done, so why not sack them back then? Maybe, just maybe this is the way to handle players with the way they play? I simply don't know, but I would trust a bloke who is highly thought of, rather than a bloke who has simply been told "others don't do it that way". It seems to me he has heard that from one/some others, and came to the conclusion that was the reason why we had all the injuries, without actually looking or asking the questions why we had all the injuries.

Give him the job, and then he can then bring in Pearson as his number 2....

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/fleming-looks-ahead-to-owls-clash/

Been the same for ages, I'm more surprised you can hear the actual questions. I generally stopped watching them because they were done so poorly, previous ones I have watched I had to go back and turn up the volume to hear the question. Non league pressers must be more professional than ours.