cidercity1987

I'll enjoy the rest of the season if we win the next three to make Norwich away a very interesting game with an outside chance of the play offs (as they will drop points between now and then) Otherwise the season is still a failure to not even be in the play off conversation

Maybe WBA was a bad comparison if they have always had Parachute payments. Not sure what bigger club historically means in the race for the Prem but it all appears to boil down to that? Something totally intangible? Is that why other clubs of similar or lower resources always eventually make it back to the Prem? Something intangible?? All sorts of clubs Clubs with a few more fans than us Middlesbrough, Coventry, Clubs with far less fans and resources than us QPR, Blackburn, Watford (without parachute) Bloody hell Cardiff, Swansea, Huddersfield, Hull All these clubs manage a go at it every now and again Why do we have to compare ourselves to clubs with far less fans like Millwall and Preston. I literally do not understand. Ultimately my conclusion is that it is the OWNER

EXACTLY, which is the opposite of the point the opening poster is making

What is it about clubs like West Brom who despite averaging only about 1,000 fans more than us, always get their act together and finish at least in the play offs every few years with or without parachute payments. What do they have that we do not? A winning mentality?? Same applies to loads of clubs of very similar resources. Why can't we EVER finish above tiny PNE?? And don't say because they won a few things 100 years ago as that is totally irrelevant to resource generation in 2024.

In a usual season our attendances are at least top third, or if not top six. So there is that. I appreciate this season they are midtable as there are a number of well supported clubs, but our crowds are higher than Stoke for example and way higher than loads of the mentioned ex Prem clubs like Blackburn. We cannot compete with parachute clubs but we should be able to compete well with every single one of the remaining non parachute clubs. It's totally embarrassing that 50 clubs or more (many with far less resources) have made it to the Prem and we have not. I am not aware that being an ex Premier League club gives any greater right or even resources to challenge instead of us?

Dickie by a country mile Conway begrudgingly in the absence of anyone better. I thought we were supposed to have a young team? Conway goal versus West Ham away Clicked past the women (yes you can do this) as I don't know enough

PNE fans don't like Lowe even now and I really really don't get it. Shooting well above their weight

No one else doing the usual after a few wins then and checking the fixture list, this season ain't over yet.... Not saying we could win all 6 and not saying if we did that 71 would be enough But we might win a few more to make it interesting.... Revisit after Sunderland

Such a spawny team with all these late winners I know it's down to attitude rather than luck but they've got so many more points than their true level

Redevelopment effect, we aren't the same club we were 10 years ago for better or worse

Even a club like Plymouth coming up automatically with quality and momentum have really started to struggle. Imagine if ragtag Rovers sneaked in fluckily through the play offs one year with a squad like theirs at the moment. They wouldn't have the first clue how to compete and I could see a record low points total

I hope he notices our win ratio when James plays compares to when he doesn't.... I fear without James we are going to have teams running through our midfield in a way not seen since 2011 - 2013

No because Liverpool have multiples upon multiples of the number of fans Newcastle have

Derby are significantly bigger than us Blackpool are significantly smaller Basic counting fans skills Hope that helps

You're not a very good WUM Mark

Nice win, think it could have gone either way. Strange feeling, that's the regime in place until at least November now

Just a team that plays well against possession based sides

But so true

The 'family' are definitely beating Bristol City Football Club at the moment

Those prices are no different to ours

Max Bird getting promoted automatically with his childhood club and then joining a distant team with no greater prospects I can see some money changing hands and the transfer cancelled to avoid us having a greatly demotivated player

Babestation 40,000 locked out Santa's grotto Mansfield kit and horse punching The list goes on They are anything but dull

2-0 in 50 mins and another 19 pages of this thread to go, I was fearing an absolute battering. Not that bad in the end which is about the extent of our hopes at the moment

I wonder if Neil Harris is still banging on about beating Southampton too?

Trying to get out of League One as he would not have turned around the awful mess we got into during 2020/21 and 2021/22