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I thought he came across well in all honesty, but I’ve got no issue with having ambitious players here who want to achieve something. 

If he develops, and I suspect he will, he will either be sold for a decent profit as we signed him on a free or we will be kicking on as a club. 

@Ben6781

I hope, and always have hoped, Manning will do well for us. But I’m still pissed off with the lies and bullshit that came from Tinnion and JL. But that ain’t on Manning, it’s on those lying, deluded *****. 

3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Just flip it. If we weren’t Bristol City fans, how attractive is a mid table side who don’t score many goals and, by common consensus of this forum, aren’t going up or down this season.

The attractive games are the ones involving teams at the top or the bottom. Those with things riding on them. Us against (say) Swansea just isn’t an attractive game for neutrals.

I don’t deny Sky have a Leeds fetish. And it is bang out of order on their fans the way they make them travel. But by the same token they get more viewing figures from the Leeds fans themselves and from floating fans than a team like us would.

Its a reflection of being a mid table side not troubling the scorers at either end.

Exactly this. The two times we’ve appeared as the feature game on Sky we’ve been abysmal. We’re hardly easy on the eye, under Nige or Manning for balance.

Good performance against a complacent Forest side, and we had enough chances to have won that without it going to pens. How Wells doesn’t score, I don’t know. Cornick was reaching a bit for his chance, but if James gets his knee over the ball for his chance that bursts the net - like it did at Millwall earlier this season. 

It’s done and dusted now and we need to transfer this type of performance into the league. Only Blackburn have got fewer points than us in the last six games. That must change. 

I hope the Lansdowns and Tinnion move on at the earliest opportunity because I’d like to see City in the top flight having waited more than three decades now. It sure as hell won’t happen on their watch, mind. 

Smaller clubs with less resources have done it time and time again; Lansdown and his long line of poor decisions over 20+ years is the one who has held, and continues to hold, us back. 

10 hours ago, DaveF said:

Constantly repeating what JL said about 'top 6 team' is so boring now.

Yes it was a ridiculous statement and we are comfortably off a top 6 team in reality, but it's tiresome seeing people post it every day and about 200 times in the matchday threads if we concede or play badly...

“Top-10 budget” and “a squad that should be competing at the top end of the table” were the quotes from our inept chairman and his cronies. 

The first statement may have been true in the LJ/MA years but not now after Nige got rid of all the wasters; the second statement I interpreted to mean top six.

Either way, both statements were a total bollocks and I won’t forget that. We (City fans) are generally too passive. These lot would be getting a much rougher ride at other clubs, and they should be at ours IMO.

9 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

To be fair to Bell, in the new formation, whenever he gets a run out it’s at wingback… he isn’t a wingback!

Again, this is a clear example of Manning having no plan b. Even when chasing a game, the changes he makes are like for like even if that means putting players out of position.

Not saying Bell is the answer, wouldn’t be disappointed to see him leave. Also wouldn’t surprise me to see him end up like Wes Burns and doing well for another club.

True but he isn’t a striker or a winger either, which begs the question what position or role will he carve out a career at this level? 

13 minutes ago, the1stknowle said:

Errr. Alex Scott??

Did than come from our recruitment team or from SL’s Guernsey link?  

6 hours ago, the1stknowle said:

Genuine question - is our recruitment not good at the moment? What's the disappointment exactly?

I didn’t say our recruitment wasn’t good; I inferred we recruited to a template. For example, youngsters who’ve played 100+ games in the lower leagues. It seems very much sign by template, rather than think out of the box. 

While that has some merit, look at Summerville as an example of thinking out of the box. He didn’t play a single game for Feyenoord but came onto Leeds’ radar after two loan spells in Holland. When was the last time we made a signing like that? 

Our net is cast particularly wide IMO.

9 hours ago, Sheltons Army said:

He was virtually salivating pre match about the transfer window and future transfer plans

He was full of it and tbf good to hear such positivity and if you judged everything purely on his interview , you’d say prepare for take off !

Hes definitely right at the centre of all this and clearly believes

Fingers crossed then ! 

 

Interesting that he was absolutely clear that they have have been given a percentage of the Antoine and Scott monies to ‘reinvest’

 

I haven’t heard his interview but how can he be salivating when the mandate for all new signings is to sign younger players we can sell on, all while those younger players may block the pathway of what Tinnion said is the best crop coming through. 

As for him drooling at our summer plans, I bet it doesn’t involve the sort of forward-thinking recruitment Leeds did with Summerville, for example. Young players who could make a tangible difference, rather than more passive players who produce little in terms of goals or assists. 

I loved him as a player, but he’s way out of his depth being in charge of recruitment. Delusions of grandeur.

Nothing’s changed, nor will it ever change until the Lansdowns - and Tinnion - move on. That’s the sobering and sad reality. 

For context, I have no issue with being outclassed by Leeds tonight. But I have major issues with those running the club and the decisions they make.

Totally outclassed in that first half and Conway’s wasted on the left. 

3 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Leaving Tanner out was a tough one, as I agree he’s been really impressive with McCorie in front. However to fit Sykes in it was either McCorie or Tanner. (And I did mean when players were fit, not coming back from injury slowly) 

TGH and Knight my head was sort of thinking further planning as I can’t see Williams and James being here beyond summer (strangely I had Twine playing) 

But I was working at the time and someone asked me who I would go with. Reading and designing concrete specs and doing this at the same time I was struggling to multitask. I don’t really just sit there on excel this basic honestly 

 

Sadly, we rarely have a fully fit squad to choose from so those sort of selection dilemmas never arise

8 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Or….

evaluate performance in each game, comment on that and also hold an overall opinion.

Tonight he cost us with a bad error for their equaliser.

Last week he was decent v Forest

etc

Overall, he’s a decent enough Champ keeper.

(all imho)

 

That’s fair and IMO - based on the board saying PL is the goal and we have a top-end squad - is that we need someone more solid than Max if we are to achieve that target. 

Nothing against Max; he’s ideal for a team treading water in the second tier, which is exactly what we are. But if he wants to go higher in the game, he needs to cut out those gaffes like last night. 

1 minute ago, YorkshireSection said:

We have a very good strike partnership in Conway & Wells, its unfortunate that we dont play a formation or style that can accommodate their playing together, even if it was just for half an hour against a lesser opponent id like to see them given a go again, we know they are a good pairing, its very frustrating to not see it happen but I understand why.  

Totally agree, but we could pick an XI and play a formation that suits Wells and Conway by dropping the box midfield. For example, 3-4-1-2: Max; Tanner, Vyner, Dickie; McCrorie, Knight, James/Williams, Pring; Twine; Wells, Conway. 

59 minutes ago, redkev said:

Apparently its a family bar with women & kids , well it certainly wasn’t when we walked past before the game , when walked back after it surprising how strong those women and kids are launching chairs and bottles back at the city fans 

Remember it well  

1 hour ago, fisherrich said:

We all live in hope, but in reality this is a “punt” of a signing.
Bristol City need a proven Championship goal scorer. A young lad unproven from Aldershot is not that.

While I agree we need proven experience at this level, there’s no risk with this signing IMO given the low fee involved.

How many times did we pass up opportunities to get Watkins from Exeter or Bowen from Hereford for relative peanuts? 

We need proven performers in addition to the likes of Stokes, not instead of those types.

9 hours ago, The Coach said:

It will be. However I feel the club (JL and BT) see King as part of the Pearson setup.

I think we all know they would like all traces of Pearson removed.

I think you’re right, and that’s so short-sighted of JL and BT IMO when you consider the experience King has and the huge role he plays in transitioning players from the academy to the first-team squad.

There’s a real irony for me here, too. We know SL follows the FCB model and for that to be a success, he needs players who have top-level experience and a desire to go into coaching. 

Here we are, with a City fan who’s got multiple international caps, a PL winners’ medal and glowing reviews from the likes of Scott and Conway, and the club is disposing of that to remove all traces of Pearson?

Sadly, I believe that, rather than King wanting to move. It’s pathetic and a real shame from a coaching perspective as I saw King as a potential manager of us in the future. 

Tanner’s consistently good from a defensive point of view; it’s going forward where he needs to improve, and that’s a surprise to me considering he was a midfielder in his youth. First class tonight and I think he’d do well in the PL as well.

I rate Twine and always have. But what I don’t understand is we had chances to sign him permanently and for nothing in the past and yet passed up those opportunities, so why now? Strange one for me when you consider Gilhespy and Tinnion were both here when those opportunities arose. 

Great servant, great pro. Recent appearances suggest his talents are on the wane, so it’s probably a good time to sell. I wish him all the best, but we must get a decent striker in now there’s a room in the wage budget. 

14 hours ago, Tomo said:

15 points from Mannings 12 league games = 1.25PPG so there has been no real improvement so far on Pearsons stats this season.

Disappointing. No manager bounce.

The board is to blame though for not investing in the August transfer window. No fault of Nigel or Liam.

New manager bounce is all about turning woeful results into positive ones. We weren’t having woeful results under Pearson; we’d lost a few games by the odd goal with most of a small squad out injured.

Totally agree it’s not Manning’s fault and the board is 100% to blame. 

I said at the time and will say again, Tinnion and the Lansdowns are the problem; not the latest manager. In short, nothing will change until they go. 

9 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Best press conference so far. 

I am a little concerned to hear that we are looking to send players out on loan. Better appoint that loans physio again! 

I did have concerns when we brought Manning in that he wouldn't be so willing to field young players despite his experience in youth football. My feeling is he doesn't trust young players in the same way Nige did. 

My feeling is the board moved the goal posts in the summer in terms of the budget available for Nige post-Scott sale, and have loosened the purse strings for Manning.