Eddie Hitler

@Ghost Rider is our Pol Pot and with him we celebrate Bristol City's Year Zero where we will only ever look forward and never back. No more Freight Rover Trophy reminiscing please, we are into a new era.

Sport and humour have rarely made good bedfellows. The only genuinely funny, as opposed to humorous, mixing was Fantasy Football League IMO.

Well on that basis they ought to put in the rugby players as well so that you have four of the men's football team, four of the women's team and four of the rugby team. And that way for most purchases you will end up with a calendar where you know four of the people featured and the rest being all "whothey?". I detect the cold dead hand of the Birstol Sport marketing team at work here, "leveraging up" the support for the men's football team in order to boost the support of the other two teams. By force if necessary.

Back in the day TV had a lot of money sloshing about before the internet came along and stole much of the advertising revenue. Channel 4, dazzled by the popularity of Countdown, kept giving its presenters rises so that they wouldn't leave as the show was its most popular output. When they realised that the money was drying up, and that friendly Richard Whiteley had popped his clogs, questions were asked about how much Carol Vordermann was being paid for doing some mental arithmetic and putting letters into a frame. I don't know the exact amount but she says about a 90% pay cut on her offered new contract so she left. It's not unreasonable to suggest that Rachel Riley is on £100k which would have meant that Carol was on £1m. Lineker's pay looks excessive now but would not have done so in 2000. That said I find the cuts to BBC local radio have mostly ruined it and I would prefer that the money went to that rather than to one replaceable individual.

Bit like 606 then. I used to listen to it with Dannys Baker and Kelly whne it was excellent, humorous but not clownish. Then I listened to it on the Sunday after Nigel had been sacked, expecting it to be covered and at least one call taken, and it was quite astoundingly bad. Robbie Savage and Chris Suttion sounded like two old drunks making each other laugh at a corner table of a pub without realising that they were actually meant to be presenting a show. I couldn't believe quite how far it had fallen.

He was excellent in Max and Paddy but I would sya that the problem with putting him onto QoS and Top Gear is that the BBC executive is misunderstanding, some would say patronising, the audience for each programme by thinking that they are watched by low brow working class people who would like to see one of their own presenting and think him ideal. This is simialr to my memories of the absolute worst of children's TV where the execs reasoned that as kids were the audience then they would like to see a kid producing. Usually some annoying precocious yet very amateurish twonk from the Anna Scher Stage School. I give you: Why Don't You, Razzamatazz and (brace yourselves) Our Show. When what we actually wanted was funny professional adult presenters like John Noakes, Johnny Ball and Brian Cant to whom youngsters could relate. Top Gear was different as they couldn't really have kept Clarkson on but there was no sensible reason for replacing Sue Barker on QoS she was was ideal for the job. For those younger souls who are fortunate enough not to have seen it, here is Our Show in all its unwatchable shambolic amateurness. Well done if you can make it to the minute mark without stopping it or throwing your screen / tablet / phone against the wall.

Fine if that actually is the case, I was relying upon the previous post as they clearly know the system of promotion for referees.

Yes, that's the problem with this. They have received the promotion because they are a woman rather than upon merit. Women who are good enough to do this would have come through anyway but pushing one through the system early is going to be counterproductive if she isn't actually up to the job. They risk becoming the crap referee that no one wants to see listed for their game and so generating the association: woman referee = useless.

As I saw just one game in each of the 70s (79) and 80s (81) I'm not going to claim to have a genuine favourite from those decades. 90s for me, started going in I think '94, so I didn't see Andy Cole, is Shaun Taylor. '00s Scott Murray '10s Aden Flint I'm probably biased towards defenders as that's where I played.

It's on the wiki page: Year Winner Position 1970–71 Gerry Sharpe Striker 1971–72 Geoff Merrick Defender 1972–73 John Emanuel Midfielder 1973–74 Gerry Gow Midfielder 1974–75 Gary Collier Defender 1975–76 The whole squad 1976–77 Norman Hunter Defender 1977–78 Norman Hunter Defender 1978–79 Gerry Gow Midfielder 1979–80 Geoff Merrick Defender 1980–81 Kevin Mabbutt Striker 1981–82 No award 1982–83 Glyn Riley Striker 1983–84 Howard Pritchard Midfielder 1984–85 Alan Walsh Striker 1985–86 Bobby Hutchinson Midfielder 1986–87 Rob Newman Defender 1987–88 Alan Walsh Striker 1988–89 Keith Waugh Goalkeeper 1989–90 Bob Taylor Striker 1990–91 Andy Llewellyn Defender 1991–92 Martin Scott Defender 1992–93 Keith Welch Goalkeeper 1993–94 Wayne Allison Striker 1994–95 Matt Bryant Defender 1995–96 Martin Kuhl Midfielder 1996–97 Shaun Taylor Defender 1997–98 Shaun Taylor Defender 1998–99 Ade Akinbiyi Striker 1999–2000 Billy Mercer Goalkeeper 2000–01 Brian Tinnion Midfielder 2001–02 Matt Hill Defender 2002–03 Scott Murray Midfielder 2003–04 Tommy Doherty Midfielder 2004–05 Leroy Lita Striker 2005–06 Steve Brooker Striker 2006–07 Jamie McCombe Defender 2007–08 Adriano Basso Goalkeeper 2008–09 Dele Adebola Striker 2009–10 Cole Skuse Midfielder 2010–11 Albert Adomah Midfielder 2011–12 Jon Stead Striker 2012–13 Tom Heaton Goalkeeper 2013–14 Sam Baldock Striker 2014–15 Aden Flint Defender 2015–16 Aden Flint Defender 2016–17 Tammy Abraham Striker 2017–18 Bobby Reid Striker 2018–19 Adam Webster Defender 2019–20 Famara Diédhiou Striker 2020–21 Dan Bentley Goalkeeper 2021–22 Andreas Weimann[57] Forward 2022–23 Alex Scott[58] Midfielder https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_City_F.C.

I might buy it off there so do please link it. I've never really understood this internet payment stuff like Paypal so only buy through eBay from UK sellers (and not Amazon on principle), I know there are more fees but that's life.

Fair dos but your uncertainty puts people off. I'd pay £50 for it but maybe others would pay more. Maybe other contributors to the thread would care to price it?

I'm not saying that I want to buy it @Hello Dave, but I will say that the biggest deterrent for people in anything like this is the absence of a guide price. Obviously you want more than a tenner for it but I really don't have a clue as to it's value or what you are hoping to get for it. You answer above "every bit helps" really doesn't help. Say what you would be happy to get for it - £60, £80 - and then people can start PMing you with bids. As it is I don't have a clue what you're looking for: £50, £100, £200. And as I don't know even a rough guide I won't pitch in. This is why auction houses give guide prices: to give people an idea. Sure it may go for much more in a bidding war but you need a starting point. eBay auction linked from here maybe?

Interesting. Link below for anyone else who didn't know about this, it was news to me. Obviously have a guess before clicking on the link. Spoiler - only click if you don't know.

I'd say that because people support "their club" for life in most cases people tend to project onto them special, even unique, qualities which really don't exist. At root they are, location excepted, interchangeable professional football teams and this decade's success is next decade's struggler falling through the leagues if something goes awry. My earliest memories of supporting City were under Alan Dicks in Division 1 with that classic line up, meaning that I have always since then seen us as a top division club in waiting. I am however wrong in this, as the companies selling investments always say "past results are no guide to future performance". Man United ruled for a decade from the mid 90s because of the combination of a great manager and half a dozen superb players coming through the youth team at the same time and forming the core of the side. And look at them now. Brentford has been very well run recently but for years was just another small lower league club. Currently City has a very strong youth programme, great facilities and coaching, and wealthy owners. This is an excellent position in which to be. We are however lacking two things: an excellent manager (maybe that is Manning, too early to tell yet) and some decent player purchases. Add those two and we become a "special" club.

I know this isn't what the thread is asking but it brought it to mind. In the late nineties in London I had a member of staff whose landlord was Kevin Nugent's brother, I said to pass on my admiration.

Nope. I find the price of a pint eye-watering.

That's fairly standard in the UK TBF, Wetherspoons excepted. Sub £1 for can of beer in a supermarket, £6 for a pint in the pub. I'm fairly surprised that France has gone that way, cheap booze and the one Euro, now 1.5 Euro, cold pint of local lager has always been an attraction of Mediterranean holidays.

Yes, and it didn't used to be like that. We criticise Rovers' fans for their passiveness, where have their "sack the board" protests been over the years for example, but we have mostly gone the same way. The sheer cost and being crammed into small seats makes for a very passive audience these days; most clubs are likely the same.

Covid killed it for me. When league games are stripped of the crowd-generated atmosphere they look like school kids having a kickabout in the park. It was an "emperor's new clothes" moment; I retain an interest in City but have lost all interest in the England national team.

Go to the link that @ExiledAjax posted and look for your name on the register giving your shareholding, as long as it's there then you don't actually require your certificate to sell (not that you appear to be intending to do so anyway).

The shares have been so heavily diluted over the years by the Lansdowns doing debt for new equity swaps to keep within the FFP limits that yes, they are really only of sentimental value these days. At how much would the club be valued with the ground? £40m maybe, or £30m with the third party debt on the ground going with it. The minority shareholding of 1.3% is worth £390k on that £30m basis, each ordinay share is worth 19.4p. The buyback by the Lansdowns was incredibly generous as it was at £2 a share. If I had only had a few I might have held on for said sentimental reasons but I had a fair few so accepted it.

Yes, absolutely that. Well surmised.

This is why I only ever pay cash. If a seller is ripping you off then you know about it there and then and can walk away. Tap your card and you may not know how much they are actually thieving off you.

I hope so. Those Bristol Sport staffers need to earn their corn just like any other worker. I await the "Nigel Pearson ran over my dog and laughed about it" stories.