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Do keep up, he joined Bayern Munich on loan.

That was rather my point. I responded to cherry picking by cherry picking alternative games to suit the opposite argument. Picking games and excluding others to suit a narrative, whether positive or negative, invalidates the person's case.

It's not yet clear what the "way" actually is. Though perhaps we're telling 8 year olds they should play this mysterious "front foot football" and building from there. Europa League in 15 years then!

I'm not one to berate Manning as it wasn't him who made ludicrous claims when he was appointed. But I would disagree that we have had a run of impressive performances and results in the league. There are differences in how we play but no improvement in either. The cup run is fun but he wasn't brought in to win the FA Cup!

What about Birmingham, Millwall, Preston, pretty wretched stuff eh? See, I can cherry pick games to make a spurious point too.

I blame Dave Rennie.

Yep, the chart with RAGE on the y axis with the scale from MEH to WTF?! and BANTZ on the x axis. Beat that @Davefevs !

The Premier League Board proposed a sliding scale of sanctions. The clubs, including Everton, rejected it.

I'm no accountant but I thought expenditure had to be allocated to the accounts for the relevant financial year. So if a player is paid a sum next year that in respect of this year that sum should appear in this year's accounts. If that makes any sense!

What a coincidence, so will I. Let's meet up for some sushi.

As I posted on the Transfer Forum when he was subbed in their last home game he was raging at Beale and pointing at another player, presumably suggesting they should have been taken off not him. Downhill from there I assume.

In that case why have coaches at all if they have little impact? In any event it's not just about technical coaching. Before Nigel came in Cam was an outcast. He said himself that he didn't feel part of the club. Nigel brought him back into the fold, showed faith in him and in due course he replaced JD with him. Giving a player opportunities and confidence counts for a lot.

If he looks any good they'll soon be claiming he chose them over us.

What's the deal with Worrall? He seems to have gone from key player to outcast rather quickly.

It would have been a lot cheaper to just get the barrister to write "It's not fair".

FFP regulations were introduced by the Premier League in 2013. Yet only once it became clear that an independent regulator is going to happen did they take substantial and timely action against any big clubs. If this is a complete coincidence we are being asked to believe that no such club has breached the limits until now. Given the profligacy of clubs this seems unlikely. It's hard not to be cynical about such a cynical organisation.

Yes but the huge extra revenue from the thousands buying tickets for the state of the art new stand means they can start paying millions in fees.

As Kieran Maguire pointed out they evidently haven't breached P&S as they haven't been charged. However they are being investigated for much more serious matters as we have discussed on here recently.

Good to see the EFL sticking to its guns: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/jan/24/efl-not-easing-its-fixture-list-as-premier-league-standoff-continues The EFL has raised the stakes in its standoff with the Premier League over the future of English football, stating there will be no easing of the fixture list without a deal for financial redistribution. In an announcement made several months earlier than is customary, the EFL revealed its schedule for the 2024-25 season on Wednesday, confirming two-leg semi-finals for the Carabao Cup. An end to two-leg ties and cup replays has been part of broader demands made by the Premier League during tortuous negotiations over redistribution that will soon enter a third year. But according to the EFL’s chief executive, Trevor Birch, the calendar will stay the same until the top flight offers more cash for the rest of the pyramid. “Whilst the fixture calendar remains a shared asset across the EFL, Premier League and Football Association, additional pressures from revamped European competitions means that scheduling across the season remains challenging and complex, so it requires a whole game response to find a solution,” Birch said. “As it stands there is no agreement in place to make any changes to the Carabao Cup’s two-legged semi-final format, which continues to provide significant financial benefit to EFL clubs. “The league [EFL] remains committed to a review of the calendar, but any significant changes cannot be made unilaterally, and would need to come with significant levels of compensation and adopted as part of any new distribution deal with the Premier League and its clubs.” The decision by the EFL to confirm its position for next season with half of the current term still to go, and to do so in public, reflects the stakes at play. The government has promised to bring its football governance bill to parliament imminently and with it the promise of an independent regulator for the English game, but the scope of that regime is still to be decided. On Monday the EFL hosted a dinner at the House of Lords for club executives and MPs at which the need for the regulator to deliver sustainability for the English game was argued for by the EFL chair, Rick Parry. This is widely understood to mean a mixture of greater redistribution and cost controls, with agreement yet to be reached between the EFL and the Premier League over the levels of each. There is a growing sense that some inside the EFL believe the regulator should settle the dispute and such sentiments have been echoed by influential voices from inside the global game. Speaking in a personal capacity at the dinner, the deputy secretary general of Fifa, Alasdair Bell, said that setting levels of redistribution for the game would “fall squarely” within the regulator’s anticipated remit. “You wouldn’t expect football to be able to strike a deal,” he said. “The Premier League doesn’t exist just at one moment in time and this needs to be factored into what is a fair settlement for football. It needs a long-term decision not a series of ad hoc deals.”

I agree with Dan. I'm certainly excited by what is happening at Bristol Rovers.

Except they're not the same thing since the facts of every case are different. Which is one reason, as @ExiledAjax has pointed out, why tribunals (in this case the Independent Commission) do not set precedents. Everton fans like to claim favouritism but since the Man City case has not been heard yet that doesn't stack up.

Indeed it is exceedingly complex perhaps even involving criminal activity. As Kieran Maguire said yesterday, football is up there with crypto and property as the best ways to launder money. Though nobody could suspect Abramovich of that of course.

I'd just that Chelsea are subject to multiple investigations going back years, quite separately from and much more serious than whether they have just breached P&S limits. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/15/chelsea-fc-face-new-questions-over-how-roman-abramovich-funded-success

Or copy La Liga and have a budget assigned for the gross salaries and any amortisation for the entire squad plus coaching staff ahead of the season. Even if a club later increases revenue e.g. new sponsorship they can only add a maximum of 30% of that to their budget. Prevention is better than cure.

A good piece from Jonathan Liew that dismantles the arguments made by Everton fans in particular and points out that the PL (ie the clubs) should have dealt with reckless spending years ago. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/jan/23/in-footballs-crisis-of-trust-the-premier-league-as-referee-is-hard-to-stomach