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That’s interesting. Thanks. Whats the data on cardiac arrests? Also you are correct to point out risks with all vaccines. Is this risk proportionately higher or have just many more people had a vaccine of some form?

Sorry, I’m asking out if concern really, but when you say ‘seem’ what do you mean?

Frequency bias would be the obvious answer with the catalyst being the Eriksson incident and the fact we’ve had once this year. This is highlighted even further by the fact we are now stopping games for the incident, increasing its prominence and resonance. Social media also plays apart with images, tweets, messages shared globally and instantly. This would just not have happened 10 years ago. Considerring the huge increases in attendances across the top 4 division over the last 40 years, I’d be interested to see any data that showed health incidents within the crowd proportionately increasing over this period.

Love the way it’s so easy to use ‘could be’ as a caveat ? In respect of the increased frequency, does anyone know or can show us peer reviewed data from the last 40 years showing us a proportionate upward trend in cases allowing for population growth and attendance rates, across all 4 top divisions? Can anyone substantiate in any way the phrase ‘could be vaccine related’ allowing that correlation does not always equal causation?

This is a fair question. I don’t understand the Simpson signing right now.

This is a what most fans of bottom half prem teams tell you.

I don’t think you have an agenda. I think you have an opinion and try to make it. I think you just want city to succeed like we all do. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle at the moment. I think we are hamstrung financially as a club which limits Steve Ls hand in both managerial and player decisions. We have created an awful FFP time bomb which I’m sure you’re aware of. I personally don’t believe that it gets much better if at all, with another managerial change at this point. My hope for this season was always that we stay up and i think we’ll do that. After that, I’m not sure. Im really concerned about FFP sanctions if we do not sell some players. We gambled under Ashton and Johnson and like all gambled there’s a chance they don’t come off.

No FFP ramifications in league 1 (I think) seeing as the model of the previous 3 years will see us lose 50m in consecutive seasons. Just saying ?

I know you love city and just want us to do well, me too, so I’m not looking to be awkward but any team that finishes 15th or lower is going to have multiple these. I agree that if it were a Johnson season where we should be finishing top 6, then it would unacceptable. For me I just thought we needed to stay up this year and by definition it meant the majority of games would be a struggle.

It’s not a six pointer but I really hope we win ?

It is baffling isn’t it mate? but maybe that’s how it is with teams who are going to finish below 15th? Maybe you only end with 58 points because you just aren’t consistent? Look at Gary Johnson’s team from 07/08, on paper not a brilliant team but god they fought very consistently and as such were rewarded with the play-offs. If at the start of the season you thought we’d finish 15th or below then by definition inconsistency will be one of the traits.

Did you expect that every week? It’s difficult to judge what goes on with players as I’m not involved in any way shape or form with the team or it’s coaches . Ive seen some good things about us and if our thread bare would have been injury free I’m sure I would have seen it more often. Like Holden’s torrid time, it’s not been perfect this year with injuries either. It is starting to amuse me how all people want is ‘just to’: 1) Compete physically every week 2) Win the majority of their tackles or one on ones 3) Have more shots and more shots on target 4) Complete a higher percentage of passes 5) Restrict the opposition to fewer chances and shots on targets 6) have a similar or higher possession percentage than the opponent Results aren’t important if I could just see this ‘progress’ ?? Staying up this year would be an achievement, that’s what I thought in the summer.

Absolutely not ? Can you define ‘better’ though and what was your expected final position for City at the start of the season?

Of course it’s disappointing mate, completely agree with that, who in their right mind wants the club to get itself into such a financial pickle that it’s staring down the barrel of consecutive 50m loss seasons. That’s including the 12m saved over the summer! Its no fun watching shit city teams, we’ve all seen them. Ultimately I believe we have enough about us to stay up (as the last 3 home games showed) after that, who knows. As @Davefevs rightly points out, we are likely to breach FFP and who knows what happens then.

I think you’re just pissed off with today but that’s understandable. Ultimately three teams won’t deserve to be in this league and I don’t think we will be one of them. People talk about Pearson getting a ‘tune’ out of this team, that tune is simply staying up as I think many agreed at the start of the season. I really hope everyone has read @Davefevs 4 part mini epic on where we are as a club, how we got here and what the future holds. Quite simply we have to 50m loss seasons, including the 12m cut in the summer!Unless Jamie Paterson was willing to take a pay cut why would he sign another contract? I don’t blame him or Pearson for that. The future ramifications of this under FFP should not be ignored. I really enjoyed the Blackburn game and it was great to grind out a result against Stoke. These are the good times this season as I’m afraid the bad times will be superior in number (just like any club that finishes 15th or lower) if they weren’t we’d be a really good team and that isn’t the case. It’s not difficult is it? Lastly, progress. When people talk about it they always protect themselves by saying ‘we don’t mind about the result, we just want to see some progress’. Well sadly the two often go hand in hand. If your team genuinely ‘progressed’ every week, by definition they would finish the season as one of the best teams. Maybe I’ve mellowed in my old age, but I’ve seen us take 4 points at home against good teams and look shite and lose today. That’s exactly where I expect this team to be.

Everyone seems to have forgotten the 4 points against Stoke and Blackburn. My biggest gripe is that it should’ve been 6 points save a ridiculous individual error by Kalas. If we ‘progressed’ every game would we not end up winning the league?

Absolutely. If you’re asking though I think given the state of affairs created at the end of last season by Mark Ashton the club are just giving themselves so extra time. If it were more the example you’ve described then I would have expected a new contract. Just my opinion based on what we know ?

Surely it makes sense rather than just letting him go on a free? Given his age etc, maybe we could get something for him?

To safe guard against players walking on a free. Gives us more time to sort his situation out

Is that because we don’t look to keep it and just knock longer aimless balls?

I never expected anything from this game. It makes Kalas’ **** up against Blackburn more prominent. A 6 point return would have been good.

I know, but that’s part of it. If Man City can draw crowds of 28k in division 3 with a comparatively huge marketing and merchandise division to say Forest Green, then it isn’t a level playing field, it’s just the way it is. I have no problem with Jack Walker buying the league title for the people of Blackburn.

Heartbreaking interview.

Classic! Well played sirs.

I often think the EFL got it wrong in the major principle of FFP. I never had a problem with Jack Walker giving money to Blackburn or leaving a trust for them when he died. It wasn’t even an ‘investment’ save wanting to see his team succeed on the pitch. To my mind the issue was when clubs/owners borrow the money to invest against the club and it’s assets, essential putting the club at risk. That’s the issue. If Steven Lansdown wanted to make a one off donation of £100m, why shouldn’t he? You always had wealthier and poorer clubs.