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It shouldn't escape our attention that we are still a pretty crap team in this division. we should have enough to stay up but thats literally it. I thought we would loose 3-0 today, not really to bothered about the result. the points that were/are going to just about keep us up aren't coming at hull and never were.

Gold over on gaschat. Definitely scared about a league 2 club. Deary me, delusions of grandeur. mariobalotelli Reserve Team 7 hours ago Henbury Gas and crazyblues71 like this. Quote Did anyone expect us to win? As for the other lot, **** em? Wael has said how important a stadium is regardless of today's result. They've been backed by billions and achieved **** all except for bouncing between League 1 and the Championship, and are just making the most of the little time that they have left above us. They've mocked DC and he's turned out to be excellent and a breath of fresh air, they've mocked the way we've been ran, and now we're being ran well, they've mocked the way we have no money, and now we do. They're scared and they don't want to admit it.

Good luck to them. I expect they'll build a new stadium somewhere soon and stuff.

Obviously not like today or we wouldn't lose all the time.

I think on some level the players new, it would explain the extra effort.

Are you suggesting it's a coincidence?

The Johnson effect. More of the same please Lee

Thank ****.

Agreed. Hopefully we will stay up and we can celebrate in style.

What a disgraceful performance. There is absolutely no other way to describe it.

I look forward to our discussions in the summer.

Is he wrong?

Have we over spent on wages yet?

Completely agree and have been saying this since April. I am truly amazed that more on this forum didn't see this coming. On the brightside we yet again seem to have had loads of possession. Bloke behind me just commented that he'd rather play like we have and loose than just get completely battered. The depressing irony of his comment seems lost on him. Fir the firsr time ever im looking at uncle Steve and blaming him. The club is ******* clueless. Its bern apparent for months.

I think i feel sick.

Thank ****

Come on!

You know i agree with a lot of what you say Bill, i just dont think people are able to sensible coversations about where we are. 3 5 2 is fine, but we do not have 11 players good enough to play it and compete at this level. SC is the manager and now has to demonstrate is acumen in turning this around with the resources at hand.

Yes, twice. My point is you could see this happening last year.

The defence wasnt that solid, the quality of opposition was poor and after a while our reputation preceeded us and our attacking style became a self fulfilling prophecy. Out of 11 we probably had 5 or 6 who could actually step up and compete at this level. That was it. Its been obvious for months and months and months. Sorry people, ive wanted to scream for months.

Too what??? There is no other system. Did people not watch us last season? Was everyone blind to it?

What does over react mean? What i am actually allowed to say?

Like i said, i enjoyed the JPT experience, but hardly celebrated like winning the FA cup. It was what it was.

Fair enough. Still don't think its that great. Sorry.

I agree it's a personal thing. I just don't think it's that much of an achievement. Winning the JPT was a good day out which my son will remember for ever. Did i celebrate the victory like we'd won the FA Cup etc. no. Just like i wouldn't celebrate winning the conference play offs 'like we'd won the premier league'.