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4 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

We're unlikely to ever know the figure. 

However he's certainly not cost us 50p. Loans are expensive. 

If he were to lead us to the premier league, that's value for money. But let's be honest, we wrote this season off a long time ago and he's not going to be leading us to the premier league. So in that sense I don't really see the point in bringing in a short term costly signing. May aswell concentrate on the future. 

"We wrote this season off a long time ago"

Whos we, WE are 4 points off playoffs 

1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Burnley are owned by Yanks aren't they? 

Probably 

2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

A gentlemans agreement in football isn't worth the hand shake that was given. Ask Harry Kane about that. 

Twine could come here and score 10 and assist 10 and then suddenly Burnley want 10 million. There are no friends in football. It is brutal. It is every person for themselves. 

Maybe scott had an agreement with the lansdowns not every football owner is Daniel levy

Just now, transfer reader said:

Someone earlier quoted Nixon as saying 'there's not a future fee "on paper"' 

 

The implication there of course that there's a figure or ballpark figure agreed in principle.

However, Nixon isn't always the most reliable.

Don't try to talk sense mate it confuses them

The agreement does not include an option to buy, as was the case with Taylor Gardner-Hickman's loan from West Brom, but there is a confidence that if the 24-year-old proves a success a more long-term resolution can be reached, albeit with the security such a clause would provide.

from bristol post, hopefully we have atleast a gentleman's agreement over price.

1 minute ago, transfer reader said:

No, I already told you I'm not going to dig through 50+ pages to find this.

I've said I think it's likely the case, you disagree.

 

Think you're the angry one here.

They do get angry when you don't share their anger 

5 minutes ago, Harry said:

I don’t think it’s fair to bring Manning into the conversation in this particular way. 
LM clearly knows what Twine can do and he wants him. It’s not up to LM to conduct the financial side of the deal. 
LM says to BT - I want Twine. 
BT and assorted members of the board have to go and do the deal. 
The fact it’s a loan without an option is 100% the responsibility of BT. LM is not part of that conversation. 
LM doesn’t need a “try before you buy”. He knows the kid inside out. 

Wait its not JUST tinnion its the whole recruitment team 

Just now, Silvio Dante said:

Jesus, this is hard work.

Nobody is saying that his signing might not be positive for the team in the short term. But I don’t think you’re daft enough to think it gets us promotion, and one loan signing doesn’t move the dial on other players. 
 

Its not about whether he improves the side in the short term (likely opinion he does), its about what sense this signing makes considering our position now, the time that LM is stated to need, the lack of an oven ready academy player at the end of the loan and the fact the player is a known quantity.

You seem to think you’re a bright bloke. Surely you must look at all those factors and think “Yeah there’s a point there”, but instead you’ve decided that because I’ve expressed doubts over LM then it can’t be valid. Hint sweetheart- lots of other people on the thread who haven’t expressed doubts over LM are saying the same thing….

It's just so negative though, like how can you just be so cocksure we aint challenging the play offs , I'm not saying we will but my god its far from over. 

2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Am I allowed to question what the loan fee is? And how that spending that is value for money? Or am I gonna get the bots jump on me like earlier? 

 

 

 

No-one will know the fee as of yet I doubt 

1 minute ago, Ghost Rider said:

I can't believe how unreasonable our fans are! They are completely overreacting to Twine's signing. He is a quality player for us, but they are throwing a tantrum about it.

We complain about lack of progression, but then we complain when we sign players who will help us improve, just because we don't have an option to buy. I have never seen the fans make such a fuss about not having the option to buy before. It makes no sense.

Maybe other options are not available, so we have gone with the best option to cover us until the summer? I am fed up with our supporters getting hysterical at every turn. It's like the Lansdowns have come into your house and taken your money for this signing.

I am really sick of our whiny entitled supporters. We sound like spoiled kids who are angry because they didn't get a game with their PlayStation 5.

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I think a subforum devoted to woe is me is needed, 

I still can't believe someone said if we get promoted we would get battered in the prem for ****sakes might aswel play knight in goal for rest of season to keep us safe from a beating 

3 minutes ago, transfer reader said:

But having a player familiar with Manning's style and so could speed up the process of other players picking up some on some of the intricacies, can slot in right away without a time of getting to know the system etc, that couldn't have any positives at all could it?

 

Or perhaps this is Silvio 'be as negative about Manning as is possible on every single topic' Dante striking yet again.

 

I'll await your half time and full time threads slating everything from line up to shoelace colours if we aren't beating West Ham 10-0 after 2 minutes.

Love it 

2 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

You can’t though mate as you’ll get “just enjoy the win” etc etc. 

Oh yeah mate every time "why don't you just leave it " 

Just now, BrizzleRed said:

Oh come on, give your head a wobble mate.  If by some miracle, we managed to ‘do a Luton’ with this squad, we’d get absolutely rinsed every week in the Prem.

We aren’t even close to the quality needed for the step up, so some serious realism, rather than rose tints needed, I reckon!

Let's not try to go up until we have a team better than Leicester just incase we get beat in the prem,  heard it all now

Just now, Numero Uno said:

Too early NOW but once we've played Watford, Coventry, Leeds, Middlesbrough and Southampton we will have a pretty good idea where our season is going at that point.

Which could be shit, but also fantastic 

1 minute ago, BrizzleRed said:

What’s to be happy about then?  

We’re going nowhere this season anyway, so we’ll just be keeping one of Burnley’s players match fit for them next season.  Would rather see us pick jp a young player from the lower leagues and bring them on for ourselves, rather than helping out what will be a Championship rival next year.

How can you possibly be happy with this situation??

How on earth can you just throw away the season for christ sakes we are 4 points off playoffs, there's plenty of points left I pray we start pushing on in the coming weeks so I can bring these comments back up.

Just now, BCFCGav said:

Yea when it will help us and is worth it. Without Twine we survive and miss out on PO’s. With Twine we survive and miss out and PO’s and lose a few million.

Might aswel sign no-one because it's pointless then, followed by a forum meltdown for lack of ambition.

Just now, Randy Marsh II said:

If it is just a loan as being suggested then it's just pointless. 

Pearson said we don't develop other teams players for them, which was right - we shouldn't. We're just bolstering a rivals squad next season given their player experience and game time they can't. 

If true anyway 

I agree if we were a top prem club, loans are used by everyone, if everyone took this approach no1 would help develop our young players like vyner and pring 

Just now, frenchred said:

I just don't get the negativity!

When Pearson was here most people were saying why don't he loan players!

Pathetic

Mental aint it

Just now, P'head Red said:

Very disappointed in this pointless signing. 

4 points off play offs and strengthening the team for whatever comes next how is that pointless 

You lot must be a right laugh at partys

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

No simple answer to that, will very much depend on structure of loan fee, then transfer fee / contract length, and then accountancy treatment.  There is no real reason to do as a loan first per se.

If it’s around the rumoured £2.5m mark, then yes.  But don’t forget recruitment is a collective  effort so in terms of structuring the deal, share that credit undoubtedly with a combo of GM and TR.

Unless the recruitment isn't good it's then tinnions fault according to some!

1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said:

This is a classic OTIB transfer thread. Rumours, arguments, paranoia and humour. Love it

Makes the working day go faster !

Just now, Numero Uno said:

Excuse my ignorance, what does the red circle mean? I'm probably the only one on the forum that doesn't get it!!

Just tongue in cheek over some posters being bristol sport employees  have been called "the circle"

6 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

According to numerous posters, the only opinions that are allowed are Pro Lansdown posts, pro Manning posts and pro Tinnion posts. You get bonus points if you mention what a fantastic stadium we have. 

51 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Quick mate, JL needs his boots cleaning. Run along. 

Oh look the cult doing cult things